Amazon Australia Mistakenly Leaks Listing Description for Senator Shockwave and Orion Pax

Sabrblade wrote:So, who wants to guess what molds this Shockwave and Orion will be made out of? And from how things have been, our options are any molds from Siege, Earthrise, Kingdom, Studio Series 86, and Legacy.

Nemesis Primal wrote:You are either blessed with powers of prophecy...or you've looked at TFW and/or Amazon Australia sometime within the last hour and a half, and you've seen there's a listing that exists which uses the pictures and URL for the Tyranny set but has the name and description for:

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:You are either blessed with powers of prophecy...or you've looked at TFW and/or Amazon Australia sometime within the last hour and a half, and you've seen there's a listing that exists which uses the pictures and URL for the Tyranny set but has the name and description for:

Must be the former because this is the only TF fan site I visit. Just a very lucky guess is all.

I'm sticking with my guess of either Metal Hawk or a Siege Seeker retool. For Prime probably the Siege mold since I think it gives them more freedom to mess around with the truck mode. I can't see them going Deluxe, but maybe Hound could be used for Roller if there's a bottom half of the set featuring some Dekuxe figures.

Watch them do Impactor again.

Emerje.

Perceptor1996 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Perceptor1996 wrote:I know that, it still doesn't mean it isn't tied into it. We started getting every Beast Wars character leading into a Beast themed movie. Now were getting a bunch of prewar characters leading into a prewar movie.

We got Beast Wars toys in Kingdom (two years ago, btw) because 2021 was the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars (and because of backlash when Hasbro did nothing to celebrate the 20th anniversary back in 2016).

Toy development does not happen that quick and we know that they have been interesting in putting Beast Wars characters in the movies sense "The Last Knight" and "Rise of the Beast" was pushed back multiple times because both the pandemic and the need for more production time. The point of Kingdom was to bring the Beasts back into peoples memories and to be sure that Hasbro had all those name trademarks again. So it's a safe assumption that all these prewar two packs regardless of being based on G1, IDW or the Highmoon games are a form of brand synergy to get people in the mind set of prewar Transformers to build hype for "Transformers One".

Sabrblade wrote:So, who wants to guess what molds this Shockwave and Orion will be made out of? And from how things have been, our options are any molds from Siege, Earthrise, Kingdom, Studio Series 86, and Legacy.

Emerje wrote:I can't see them going Deluxe, but maybe Hound could be used for Roller if there's a bottom half of the set featuring some Dekuxe figures.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:So, who wants to guess what molds this Shockwave and Orion will be made out of? And from how things have been, our options are any molds from Siege, Earthrise, Kingdom, Studio Series 86, and Legacy.

Emerje wrote:I can't see them going Deluxe, but maybe Hound could be used for Roller if there's a bottom half of the set featuring some Dekuxe figures.

Prime is said to be deluxe in the listing, so maybe just Kup again. Though the mold that would suit the IDW version best I think would be the new armada cab figure.

Shockwave would be metalhawk, pretty sure.

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:So, who wants to guess what molds this Shockwave and Orion will be made out of? And from how things have been, our options are any molds from Siege, Earthrise, Kingdom, Studio Series 86, and Legacy.

Emerje wrote:I can't see them going Deluxe, but maybe Hound could be used for Roller if there's a bottom half of the set featuring some Dekuxe figures.

Prime is said to be deluxe in the listing, so maybe just Kup again. Though the mold that would suit the IDW version best I think would be the new armada cab figure.

Shockwave would be metalhawk, pretty sure.

Well that's dumb, it should be the same Prime that was friends with Shockwave who was basically G1 Prime with some Cybertronian kibble in bot mode. We just got TWO deluxe Orion Pax figures in the past few years, time for a proper Voyager IDW version. The DW version was his War Within body, which would be a nice figure to have, but I don't see them making one. Wouldn't surprise me if they just reused the Pulse Orion Pax mold (from SS86 Kup) and gave it a new head.
Hopefully the listing is wrong as a lot of previous Amazon leaks have been such as the Golden Disk listings.

Emerje

sol magnus wrote:As for Pax, he's not IDW at all. He's Dreamwave - he was never a data clerk in IDW v.1.

Emerje wrote:Shockwave is a retooled Siege Seeker (called it!). They said they'd fight for a color variant if people ask for it, possibly as a Selects.

I wonder if Trashmaster is an Armada Overload retool since it has Evo-Fusion features?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Shockwave is a retooled Siege Seeker (called it!). They said they'd fight for a color variant if people ask for it, possibly as a Selects.

Purple and lavender?

I wonder if Trashmaster is an Armada Overload retool since it has Evo-Fusion features?

Would be be large enough as a voyager if he had the combining capability?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Shockwave is a retooled Siege Seeker (called it!). They said they'd fight for a color variant if people ask for it, possibly as a Selects.

Purple and lavender?

I wonder if Trashmaster is an Armada Overload retool since it has Evo-Fusion features?

Would be be large enough as a voyager if he had the combining capability?

Emerje wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Shockwave is a retooled Siege Seeker (called it!). They said they'd fight for a color variant if people ask for it, possibly as a Selects.

Purple and lavender?

This one.

Emerje wrote:I wonder if Trashmaster is an Armada Overload retool since it has Evo-Fusion features?

Nemesis Destron wrote:Man should have paid the engineers involved extra to better design the under part of Senator Shockwave's alt-mode ....'nuff said!

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:Man should have paid the engineers involved extra to better design the under part of Senator Shockwave's alt-mode ....'nuff said!

You are aware of how the Siege Tetrajet mold's altmode looks, yes?

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:You are either blessed with powers of prophecy...or you've looked at TFW and/or Amazon Australia sometime within the last hour and a half, and you've seen there's a listing that exists which uses the pictures and URL for the Tyranny set but has the name and description for:

Must be the former because this is the only TF fan site I visit. Just a very lucky guess is all.

I'm sticking with my guess of either Metal Hawk or a Siege Seeker retool. For Prime probably the Siege mold since I think it gives them more freedom to mess around with the truck mode. I can't see them going Deluxe, but maybe Hound could be used for Roller if there's a bottom half of the set featuring some Dekuxe figures.

Watch them do Impactor again.

Emerje.

Hi Transformer fans!

I hope you all enjoyed today's livestream where we showed off the Nitro gaming chairs, Elite Robosen Prime, some of the upcoming Studio Series figures, the next wave of Legacy Pipeline reveals and our exclusive capsule for the year.

I wanted to post a few pics from our "Rise of Tyranny" and "Humble Origins" 2 packs that you can pre order now on Amazon and Hasbro Pulse.

As I said in the stream, this capsule is focusing on a Pre-war and Pre-faction Cybertron that pulls from a lot of our different continuities from over the years.

It's something I've been wanting to do and was happy when the team got on board and let me do some weird stuff to names most would be familiar with but maybe not in this context.

The most controversial I'm sure is the Data Clerk Orion Pax since he is a mix mash of several designs. His color breaks are pulled from the Aligned continuity. Chest and head design from different IDW comics. He's sort of the embodiment of what this capsule is and how we're pulling from all over.

Also, as I said, I just like it when Orion Pax starts out smaller. Perhaps the body design most folks want will be coming in the future but we needed a stepping stone to show this stage in Orion Pax's life.

Same with Miner Megatron as he certainly has other major life events that he goes through before becoming the Tyrannical Megatron we all know.

Senator Shockwave and Ratbat were part of a theme of " Strange cybertronian shapes that fly." I figure those bots that have that sort of functionality would have considerably higher social standing than those that have to travel the ground. "Your alt mode dictates your function" is just a fantastic bit of pre war story telling that I love and hope we can dive back into again someday.

But I hope you all enjoyed the stream and please be on the look out for more reveals in the coming future!

o.supreme wrote:ok, so much like the Wreckers packs last year, we know there will be more of these coming from Amazon. So...because IDW was not my thing, I've purged most of it from my memory despite reading all of the books from 2005-2017.

On top of the Megatron/Ratbat pack we see a Golden Character's legs with the saying "Freedom is the Right of all *something* Beings (that 2nd to last word is fuzzy in all the pics I've seen and I cant make it out). I'm sure its some sort of perversion of Optimus' iconic quote.

On top of the Orion/Shockwave pack, we see a shadowy purple/black pair of legs. I'm sure those who are familiar with the story have a fairly good guess at who these may be.... So, anyone want to share?

o.supreme wrote:ok, so much like the Wreckers packs last year, we know there will be more of these coming from Amazon. So...because IDW was not my thing, I've purged most of it from my memory despite reading all of the books from 2005-2017.

On top of the Megatron/Ratbat pack we see a Golden Character's legs with the saying "Freedom is the Right of all *something* Beings (that 2nd to last word is fuzzy in all the pics I've seen and I cant make it out). I'm sure its some sort of perversion of Optimus' iconic quote.

On top of the Orion/Shockwave pack, we see a shadowy purple/black pair of legs. I'm sure those who are familiar with the story have a fairly good guess at who these may be.... So, anyone want to share?

LinaNui wrote:Love both 2 packs and have them preordered. The thought of a Nova Prime is exciting. Can't wait to compare him to this guy!

o.supreme wrote:ok, so much like the Wreckers packs last year, we know there will be more of these coming from Amazon. So...because IDW was not my thing, I've purged most of it from my memory despite reading all of the books from 2005-2017.

On top of the Megatron/Ratbat pack we see a Golden Character's legs with the saying "Freedom is the Right of all *something* Beings (that 2nd to last word is fuzzy in all the pics I've seen and I cant make it out). I'm sure its some sort of perversion of Optimus' iconic quote.

On top of the Orion/Shockwave pack, we see a shadowy purple/black pair of legs. I'm sure those who are familiar with the story have a fairly good guess at who these may be.... So, anyone want to share?

Sowndwave76 wrote:After seeing the image of Bombshell shown during the stream, I’m hoping that was a hint they’ll be making/painting his torso gray and not purple…
But who knows, Shrapnel’s back is purple and not black.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Man, I'm conflicted on these 2 packs. And curious for what else may come of this line

Like with ratbat and Megatron, I care about one character but not the other. And don't really like the mold for the character I care about. I like that orion Pax comes with an axe, but I already have the other orion and don't need the Hound mold version. Having senator Shockwave would be so cool because his fate is tragic and interesting, but that mold is a weird choice. Granted, the only figure of that mold I have is sparkless Seeker. So it's not a tired mold for me

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:After seeing the image of Bombshell shown during the stream, I’m hoping that was a hint they’ll be making/painting his torso gray and not purple…
But who knows, Shrapnel’s back is purple and not black.

....oh no, they did use that picture, didn't they.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:After seeing the image of Bombshell shown during the stream, I’m hoping that was a hint they’ll be making/painting his torso gray and not purple…
But who knows, Shrapnel’s back is purple and not black.

....oh no, they did use that picture, didn't they.

Yes, and rightfully so.
I’m a G1 fan that has never demanded or wanted everything to be G1.
But when figures of G1 characters are made,
I want them to look G1, not “G1”.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:After seeing the image of Bombshell shown during the stream, I’m hoping that was a hint they’ll be making/painting his torso gray and not purple…
But who knows, Shrapnel’s back is purple and not black.

....oh no, they did use that picture, didn't they.

Yes, and rightfully so.
I’m a G1 fan that has never demanded or wanted everything to be G1.
But when figures of G1 characters are made,
I want them to look G1, not “G1”.

Explain the difference.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:After seeing the image of Bombshell shown during the stream, I’m hoping that was a hint they’ll be making/painting his torso gray and not purple…
But who knows, Shrapnel’s back is purple and not black.

....oh no, they did use that picture, didn't they.

Yes, and rightfully so.
I’m a G1 fan that has never demanded or wanted everything to be G1.
But when figures of G1 characters are made,
I want them to look G1, not “G1”.

Explain the difference.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:After seeing the image of Bombshell shown during the stream, I’m hoping that was a hint they’ll be making/painting his torso gray and not purple…
But who knows, Shrapnel’s back is purple and not black.

....oh no, they did use that picture, didn't they.

Yes, and rightfully so.
I’m a G1 fan that has never demanded or wanted everything to be G1.
But when figures of G1 characters are made,
I want them to look G1, not “G1”.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:After seeing the image of Bombshell shown during the stream, I’m hoping that was a hint they’ll be making/painting his torso gray and not purple…
But who knows, Shrapnel’s back is purple and not black.

....oh no, they did use that picture, didn't they.

Yes, and rightfully so.
I’m a G1 fan that has never demanded or wanted everything to be G1.
But when figures of G1 characters are made,
I want them to look G1, not “G1”.

Ah yes, because how could I forget that the only thing that is truly G1 is the animation error that is Bombshell's Sunbow bot mode colors, and not his G1 toy, packaging art, comic appearances, and/or his alt mode colors in the same show. That's clearly why every iteration and appearance of Bombshell that's ever come out since the Sunbow cartoon has made him that iconic grey, right?

Oh wait, not a single use of the character since Sunbow has been grey, because the Sunbow grey is incorrect and he's supposed to match the other 2 Insecticons.

Unless you have a suggestion for how he's supposed to change colors when he transforms in a way that doesn't compromise the figure, so you can have your animation error and I can just skip that step and leave him correct in both modes?

-Kanrabat- wrote:Error Bombshell could be an easy exclusive or a Select that would shelfwarm like Red Swoop did.
Just sayan'.