Age Of Extinction Now The Highest Grossing Film Of 2014 (So Far)

Cthulhunicron wrote:

noctorro wrote:It scored lower than ROTF on Rotten Tomatoes, the guys who only like The Godfather II and Amelie.

Rotten Tomatoes gave X-Men Days of Future Past a 92% rating; they gave the Matrix an 87%. Just because someone doesn't like the Michael Bay Transformers movies doesn't mean that they don't enjoy sci-fi/action movies.

Take me for instance. I like Star Wars, Pacific Rim, Aliens, Robocop, Terminator, Predator, the Matrix, the Avengers, Iron Man, and Batman Begins. However, I can't stand the live-action Transformers movies. To me, they have sporadic moments of entertaining action and cool-looking robots, but for the most part I just find them to be unbearable. All of those other movies I mentioned, I can watch from start to finish and enjoy them in their entirety. On the rare occasions where I watch one of the Transformers films, I pretty much have to skip about 75% of each movie.

Sub-Prime wrote:Let me see if I can find a few of them that critics bitch about.

1. Micheal Bay showed ass shots in TF films? Ok we're not gonna talk about how Avengers had a nice as shot of Black Widow that wasn't mentioned as a negative.

Sub-Prime wrote:2. Micheal Bay likes pretty women in his movies only? So every chick in other movies are all down right ugly then.

Sub-Prime wrote:3. Women wear skimpy stuff in his movies? A lot of women wear skimpy stuff in real life and in other movies that the same critics don't complain about.

Sub-Prime wrote:4. All I see is explosions!explosions! and too much destruction? Why yes of course the Transformers aren't regular men fighting martial arts. They are big giant robots with futuristic weaponry for fighting.

Sub-Prime wrote:5. Incoherent plot? Yet numerous folks understood what was going on.

Sub-Prime wrote:6. Unlikable characters? I actually liked Cade, Harold,Joshua,Tessa and Savoy's characters. 5/6 main characters.

Sub-Prime wrote:7.Micheal Bay believes in statutory rape? Smdh with this one.

Sub-Prime wrote:8. The dialogue is terrible? Not every character is gonna speak like a super intelligent character.

Sub-Prime wrote:9. Micheal Bay is racist? Just because a character is called Lucky Charms it makes him racist. How about Cade just having a weird sense of humor? He plays a character with a bad temper. He is also a very angry dad in this so I could see him being kind of f'd up to Shane.

Sub-Prime wrote:10. In Transformers 2 the twins was considered racist robots for their words to Leo? The twins was obviously stupid bots who mirrored their mannerism through the world wide web . I understand that little kids are watching the movie and it might come across as vulgar. But let's be real these kids is going to learn hateful words irregardless and their parents probably already taught them it. I remember when Obama first ran for president and the things folks had their kids saying on TV about Obama was f'd up.

Sub-Prime wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

On a more positive not AoE is #1 on the 2014 Box Office charts!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

That's exactly what it is. Especially with AOE. It fixed everything that everyone complained about with the first 3, and they still love to attack it. All they ever say is that it's "long and loud." And the people who have tried to explain why the movie was "dumb" or "stupid," I've been able to disprove them. None of them ever said a word back to me about it. Even a professional.

It was too long.

The Lord of the Rings movies are just as long, if not longer, and they're some of the most highly praised movies of all time. Gone with the Wind is even longer. Why do the critics suddenly have a problem with a movie being too long?

It's been this way since the first movie, everything they complain about there's a movie out there that's far worse, but higher rated. They don't like the humor, but loved Ted. They don't like the shaky came, but Cloverfield was good. Some things they complain about just don't make any logical sense. Like too much action, in an action movie? That's like giving a comedy a bad review because it's too funny.

It's just a bunch of high school level social circle bullshit. Michael Bay is the most popular guy in school and the critics are the nerds in the AV club who just can't stand him for no real reason.

My favorite post! I'm glad some folks have seen the critics BS that I have noticed for a while.

Slashercon wrote:
5. More often then not, I find the high school "social circle" stereotype to be the nerds wanting to BE the most popular guy.

My two cents.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

On a more positive not AoE is #1 on the 2014 Box Office charts!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

That's exactly what it is. Especially with AOE. It fixed everything that everyone complained about with the first 3, and they still love to attack it. All they ever say is that it's "long and loud." And the people who have tried to explain why the movie was "dumb" or "stupid," I've been able to disprove them. None of them ever said a word back to me about it. Even a professional.

It was too long.

The Lord of the Rings movies are just as long, if not longer, and they're some of the most highly praised movies of all time. Gone with the Wind is even longer. Why do the critics suddenly have a problem with a movie being too long?

Clunker wrote:There was a shot near the beginning where it was the dad talking to his daughter and all you saw was the daughters in short shorts and her tanned legs, it was like trying to redo the whole megan fox scene where she's leaning over bumblebee's engine all over again.

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

1. What does that even mean?
2. Who are the highest common denominators? People who don't like the movies?
3. What have you contributed to the world?

cruizerdave wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

1. What does that even mean?
2. Who are the highest common denominators? People who don't like the movies?
3. What have you contributed to the world?

1. It means these movies are designed for idiots. It doesn't matter that the plots are nonsense, the robots aren't characters and the most of the humans are, for the most part, terrible characters. It doesn't matter because, look pretty ’plosions, special effects, over-saturated colors and hot girls!

2. People who forgo seeing Bayformers and go see the latest X-men again. I'm no movie snob, but I've had a distain for Bay since Armageddon.

3. Really? I post an opinion about a series of movies that opinions range from "cinematic excrement" on the low end to "it's just a dumb action movie, what do you expect?" on the high end, and you're calling me out to justify my existence? What am I supposed to do, give you a list of my charitable donations and hours spent volunteering in my community? Because I could do that if that's what you want.

cruizerdave wrote:

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.

I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.

These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.

cruizerdave wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

1. What does that even mean?
2. Who are the highest common denominators? People who don't like the movies?
3. What have you contributed to the world?

1. It means these movies are designed for idiots. It doesn't matter that the plots are nonsense, the robots aren't characters and the most of the humans are, for the most part, terrible characters. It doesn't matter because, look pretty ’plosions, special effects, over-saturated colors and hot girls!

2. People who forgo seeing Bayformers and go see the latest X-men again. I'm no movie snob, but I've had a distain for Bay since Armageddon.

3. Really? I post an opinion about a series of movies that opinions range from "cinematic excrement" on the low end to "it's just a dumb action movie, what do you expect?" on the high end, and you're calling me out to justify my existence? What am I supposed to do, give you a list of my charitable donations and hours spent volunteering in my community? Because I could do that if that's what you want.

RhA wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

1. What does that even mean?
2. Who are the highest common denominators? People who don't like the movies?
3. What have you contributed to the world?

1. It means these movies are designed for idiots. It doesn't matter that the plots are nonsense, the robots aren't characters and the most of the humans are, for the most part, terrible characters. It doesn't matter because, look pretty ’plosions, special effects, over-saturated colors and hot girls!

2. People who forgo seeing Bayformers and go see the latest X-men again. I'm no movie snob, but I've had a distain for Bay since Armageddon.

3. Really? I post an opinion about a series of movies that opinions range from "cinematic excrement" on the low end to "it's just a dumb action movie, what do you expect?" on the high end, and you're calling me out to justify my existence? What am I supposed to do, give you a list of my charitable donations and hours spent volunteering in my community? Because I could do that if that's what you want.

Well, you certainly did not get any more nice from watching all those high-end movies.

Would you care for a hug?

cruizerdave wrote:

RhA wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

1. What does that even mean?
2. Who are the highest common denominators? People who don't like the movies?
3. What have you contributed to the world?

1. It means these movies are designed for idiots. It doesn't matter that the plots are nonsense, the robots aren't characters and the most of the humans are, for the most part, terrible characters. It doesn't matter because, look pretty ’plosions, special effects, over-saturated colors and hot girls!

2. People who forgo seeing Bayformers and go see the latest X-men again. I'm no movie snob, but I've had a distain for Bay since Armageddon.

3. Really? I post an opinion about a series of movies that opinions range from "cinematic excrement" on the low end to "it's just a dumb action movie, what do you expect?" on the high end, and you're calling me out to justify my existence? What am I supposed to do, give you a list of my charitable donations and hours spent volunteering in my community? Because I could do that if that's what you want.

Well, you certainly did not get any more nice from watching all those high-end movies.

Would you care for a hug?

Ha, ha! Yes, thank you for the hug.

No, it just drives me nuts when people say things like, "you only hate those movies because it's cool."

Hey, if you like these things, fine. That’s your deal. But when someone says my opinion is based on trying to be cool, that’s ridiculous.

SlyTF1 wrote:1. Good news; AOE has absolutely none of that. But I guess you'll still find a way to complain about it.

2. In my experience, it's the idiots who don't like the movies. They just hop onto the bandwagon mentality and don't know how to think for themselves. And they aren't "dumb action movies." The people who say that are the idiots I mentioned before.

cruizerdave wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:1. Good news; AOE has absolutely none of that. But I guess you'll still find a way to complain about it.

2. In my experience, it's the idiots who don't like the movies. They just hop onto the bandwagon mentality and don't know how to think for themselves. And they aren't "dumb action movies." The people who say that are the idiots I mentioned before.

1. I was fooled into watching the third one based on the same claims. So I got gay sex in the bathroom stall gag instead.
Sorry, fool me once, shame on you, fool me three times, shame on me. I'm not falling for it this time.
2. Oh, I hated these movies long before it was cool. I was posting criticisms of them when I got my hands on a leaked copy of the first one's script months before it was released. People assured me that they "fixed all that" during shooting. Yet Bumblepee was still there.

cruizerdave wrote:
No, it just drives me nuts when people say things like, "you only hate those movies because it's cool."

Hey, if you like these things, fine. That’s your deal. But when someone says my opinion is based on trying to be cool, that’s ridiculous.

cruizerdave wrote:I guess it would be better if we were all to preface everything we said with an "in my opinion ..." but I figured that since this is the Internet, that's a given. So when I say, "these movies are terrible" I'm not saying they are objectively terrible, just in my opinion they are terrible. But don't say that it's not my opinion or imply that it's impossible to honestly not like these movies, because it is. Especially in a summer with X-Men DOFP, Captain America The Winter Soldier and the new Apes flick.

cruizerdave wrote:

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.

I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.

These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.

dragons wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.

I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.

These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.

Possibly a lot of people who like these don't over analyze them like everyone else does with plots, acting and all other crap those people let critics judge on plot who get paid to judge movies but for people who like these movies are fan of series or don't judge everyyyy little detail in movie and go see movie what they are meant to made for entertainment pourpuse use watch movie for action, adventure, excitement, scared, laughter. When was last time have most of you memebers saw movie for entertainment use and did not over anayalize every little aspect of a film watched it out of pure enjoyment to be scared, laughed, see great fights that is why people like them with bonus what other city's country's look like outside of the U.S.?

What I like with movies about my family sister, cousin, father they don't talk about acting sucks characters are bland they need be outgoing, plot holes all that other nonsense crap like to I movies with family for this they stuff as that was good movie action was good funny think they be sequel I liked ending they don't over anayalize act like paid critics If I knew someone who acts like paid critic after seeing movie give there opinion I won't go see it with them any more they fun out of movies which is entertainment, same with comics, music, anything

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know people complain about the length but for what a movie ticket costs nowadays I expect a long film, two news reels, and a couple cartoons.

dragons wrote:
1. plots, acting and all other crap
2. action, adventure, excitement, scared, laughter. When was last time have most of you memebers saw movie for entertainment use and did not over anayalize every little aspect of a film watched it out of pure enjoyment to be scared, laughed, see great fights that is why people like them with bonus what other city's country's look like outside of the U.S.?

3. What I like with movies about my family sister, cousin, father they don't talk about acting sucks characters are bland they need be outgoing, plot holes all that other nonsense crap

4. l that was good movie action was good funny think they be sequel I liked ending they don't over anayalize act like paid critics If I knew someone who acts like paid critic after seeing movie give there opinion I won't go see it with them any more they fun out of movies which is entertainment, same with comics, music, anything

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

cruizerdave wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

1. What does that even mean?
2. Who are the highest common denominators? People who don't like the movies?
3. What have you contributed to the world?

1. It means these movies are designed for idiots. It doesn't matter that the plots are nonsense, the robots aren't characters and the most of the humans are, for the most part, terrible characters. It doesn't matter because, look pretty ’plosions, special effects, over-saturated colors and hot girls!

2. People who forgo seeing Bayformers and go see the latest X-men again. I'm no movie snob, but I've had a distain for Bay since Armageddon.

3. Really? I post an opinion about a series of movies that opinions range from "cinematic excrement" on the low end to "it's just a dumb action movie, what do you expect?" on the high end, and you're calling me out to justify my existence? What am I supposed to do, give you a list of my charitable donations and hours spent volunteering in my community? Because I could do that if that's what you want.

cruizerdave wrote:

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.

I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.

These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Yes, that's why it's the highest grossing movie of the year. People always say the movies "appeal to the lowest common denominator." What does that even mean? It sounds like some tagline everyone who doesn't like these movies, who have no imagination whatsoever, spout to put down those who do like them. Who are the highest common denominators? People who don't like the movies? What have you contributed to the world?

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.

I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.

These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.

Good news; AOE has absolutely none of that. But I guess you'll still find a way to complain about it.

cruizerdave wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

1. What does that even mean?
2. Who are the highest common denominators? People who don't like the movies?
3. What have you contributed to the world?

1. It means these movies are designed for idiots. It doesn't matter that the plots are nonsense, the robots aren't characters and the most of the humans are, for the most part, terrible characters. It doesn't matter because, look pretty ’plosions, special effects, over-saturated colors and hot girls!

2. People who forgo seeing Bayformers and go see the latest X-men again. I'm no movie snob, but I've had a distain for Bay since Armageddon.

3. Really? I post an opinion about a series of movies that opinions range from "cinematic excrement" on the low end to "it's just a dumb action movie, what do you expect?" on the high end, and you're calling me out to justify my existence? What am I supposed to do, give you a list of my charitable donations and hours spent volunteering in my community? Because I could do that if that's what you want.

In my experience, it's the idiots who don't like the movies. They just hop onto the bandwagon mentality and don't know how to think for themselves. And they aren't "dumb action movies." The people who say that are the idiots I mentioned before.

cruizerdave wrote:

RhA wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:It's a sad day for movies.

I'm sorry, but Bay's films are terrible and appeal to the lowest common denominator.

1. What does that even mean?
2. Who are the highest common denominators? People who don't like the movies?
3. What have you contributed to the world?

1. It means these movies are designed for idiots. It doesn't matter that the plots are nonsense, the robots aren't characters and the most of the humans are, for the most part, terrible characters. It doesn't matter because, look pretty ’plosions, special effects, over-saturated colors and hot girls!

2. People who forgo seeing Bayformers and go see the latest X-men again. I'm no movie snob, but I've had a distain for Bay since Armageddon.

3. Really? I post an opinion about a series of movies that opinions range from "cinematic excrement" on the low end to "it's just a dumb action movie, what do you expect?" on the high end, and you're calling me out to justify my existence? What am I supposed to do, give you a list of my charitable donations and hours spent volunteering in my community? Because I could do that if that's what you want.

Well, you certainly did not get any more nice from watching all those high-end movies.

Would you care for a hug?

Ha, ha! Yes, thank you for the hug.

No, it just drives me nuts when people say things like, "you only hate those movies because it's cool."

Hey, if you like these things, fine. That’s your deal. But when someone says my opinion is based on trying to be cool, that’s ridiculous.

cruizerdave wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:1. Good news; AOE has absolutely none of that. But I guess you'll still find a way to complain about it.

2. In my experience, it's the idiots who don't like the movies. They just hop onto the bandwagon mentality and don't know how to think for themselves. And they aren't "dumb action movies." The people who say that are the idiots I mentioned before.

1. I was fooled into watching the third one based on the same claims. So I got gay sex in the bathroom stall gag instead.
Sorry, fool me once, shame on you, fool me three times, shame on me. I'm not falling for it this time.
2. Oh, I hated these movies long before it was cool. I was posting criticisms of them when I got my hands on a leaked copy of the first one's script months before it was released. People assured me that they "fixed all that" during shooting. Yet Bumblepee was still there.

SlyTF1 wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:1. Good news; AOE has absolutely none of that. But I guess you'll still find a way to complain about it.

2. In my experience, it's the idiots who don't like the movies. They just hop onto the bandwagon mentality and don't know how to think for themselves. And they aren't "dumb action movies." The people who say that are the idiots I mentioned before.

1. I was fooled into watching the third one based on the same claims. So I got gay sex in the bathroom stall gag instead.
Sorry, fool me once, shame on you, fool me three times, shame on me. I'm not falling for it this time.
2. Oh, I hated these movies long before it was cool. I was posting criticisms of them when I got my hands on a leaked copy of the first one's script months before it was released. People assured me that they "fixed all that" during shooting. Yet Bumblepee was still there.

I'm not trying to fool you. Just stating facts. I don't care if you believe me or not.

Dagon wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:
No, it just drives me nuts when people say things like, "you only hate those movies because it's cool."

Hey, if you like these things, fine. That’s your deal. But when someone says my opinion is based on trying to be cool, that’s ridiculous.

I think it usually results when people just cannot handle the idea that you don't like something that they like. It's kind of the last childish resort to argument. I agree with the 'if you like things, fine' argument all day though.

cruizerdave wrote:I guess it would be better if we were all to preface everything we said with an "in my opinion ..." but I figured that since this is the Internet, that's a given. So when I say, "these movies are terrible" I'm not saying they are objectively terrible, just in my opinion they are terrible. But don't say that it's not my opinion or imply that it's impossible to honestly not like these movies, because it is. Especially in a summer with X-Men DOFP, Captain America The Winter Soldier and the new Apes flick.

cruizerdave wrote:1. It means these movies are designed for idiots.

cruizerdave wrote:

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.

I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.

These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.

SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.

SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.

Autobot032 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.

I think that would make a LOT of fans angry. It's made them mad enough that the film series has borrowed from past storylines as it already has, but something like that? A straight up ripoff? Oh, I think that'd get people upset.

Critics especially.

Plus with the damage sustained to both, I doubt you could make it work, really. In the scenario you're presenting, the source material had one of those two still alive, barely, but still alive.

Taking two dead and making one whole new life just doesn't seem feasible in this universe. Plus with all the talk of souls, etc, it just won't work. I get where you're coming from, though.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.

I think that would make a LOT of fans angry. It's made them mad enough that the film series has borrowed from past storylines as it already has, but something like that? A straight up ripoff? Oh, I think that'd get people upset.

Critics especially.

Plus with the damage sustained to both, I doubt you could make it work, really. In the scenario you're presenting, the source material had one of those two still alive, barely, but still alive.

Taking two dead and making one whole new life just doesn't seem feasible in this universe. Plus with all the talk of souls, etc, it just won't work. I get where you're coming from, though.

But, they could work a way where Attinger isn't dead. I mean, the movie didn't show a big gaping hole in his chest, but a bloody wound. What if he survived and is just comatose or something?

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.

I think that would make a LOT of fans angry. It's made them mad enough that the film series has borrowed from past storylines as it already has, but something like that? A straight up ripoff? Oh, I think that'd get people upset.

Critics especially.

Plus with the damage sustained to both, I doubt you could make it work, really. In the scenario you're presenting, the source material had one of those two still alive, barely, but still alive.

Taking two dead and making one whole new life just doesn't seem feasible in this universe. Plus with all the talk of souls, etc, it just won't work. I get where you're coming from, though.

But, they could work a way where Attinger isn't dead. I mean, the movie didn't show a big gaping hole in his chest, but a bloody wound. What if he survived and is just comatose or something?

How likely is it that an ordinary human would have survived a close range (not a pointblank range, but still very near) plasma blast fired from a TF-sized cannon wielded by a gunner shooting to kill?

You'd have to work in something like magic or divine powers to explain his not being dead.

SlyTF1 wrote:The same guys who survived getting shot by Optimus earlier in the movie.

SlyTF1 wrote:It looked like the blast just hit in front of him, and like from a grenade, the shrapnel is what knocked him back and caused all those bloody spots on his chest. If they wanted to, I bet they could go with that. I'm not saying that's what happened, but the writers could spin it that way in the sequel.

cruizerdave wrote:

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.

I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.

These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.

VirusCarnage wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:

VirusCarnage wrote:I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

Then you personally have no idea what you're talking about.

I prefer my movies without plot points that include robot piss, dogs humping, weird racists robots, racist depictions of most black characters on screen, gay sex in bathroom stall jokes, humans that all act like they are cocaine all the time, and endless amounts of irrelevant plot threads and characters who have no bearing on the story.

These movies go beyond dumb. They are assaultively stupid. It's terrible news for people who like good movies that these continue to be successful. Of course in a world where people can't get enough of Kim and Kanye, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that people pay for this garbage.

Lol? So let me get this straight because you don't agree with my opinion it means I have no idea what I'm talking about?

Burn wrote:

cruizerdave wrote:1. It means these movies are designed for idiots.

For the record, just because you don't like something doesn't give you the right to come onto these forums and insult people who think differently from you.

A lot of people go to the movies for an escape from reality, to relax, to be entertained, that doesn't make them idiots.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:The same guys who survived getting shot by Optimus earlier in the movie.

Prime didn't fire on the bodies of the Cemetary Wind soldiers. He fired at the ground in front of their feet, knocking them back and away without killing them.

Speaking of which, the first time I saw the movie, I too thought he was shooting them directly. But upon viewing the movie a second time, I realized that there are actually a lot of places in this movie in which Optimus holds back and restrains himself from harming humans to his fullest extent. His shooting Attinger was really the first and only time in this movie in which he cuts loose and goes for the kill on a human being.

Another case of this is when he first reactivates in Cade's barn. Though he was screaming "I'll kill you!" upon his awakening, two things I didn't catch the first time about his initial brief rampage stood out to me on the second viewing. The first was that he didn't seem to be in his right mind. He acted as though he thought he was still in the midst of the ambush Cemetery Wind and Lockdown launched on him in New Mexico. So he wasn't really saying it to Cade/Tessa/Lucas.

The second was that, after he screamed his initial death threats, he seemed to take stock in his new surroundings and gave a warning to Cade/Tessa/Lucas with "Stay back!" And then he knocks Lucas aside with his cannon with a, while painful, nonlethal force. Had he really been as committed to his cries for murder towards Cade/Tessa/Lucas, I doubt he wouldn't have just murdered them right there on the spot instead of merely threatening them with is cannon without shooting them first.

So in a way, viewing the movie a second time showed me that Prime wasn't quite as murder-crazy (towards humans, at least) as I initially thought.

SlyTF1 wrote:It looked like the blast just hit in front of him, and like from a grenade, the shrapnel is what knocked him back and caused all those bloody spots on his chest. If they wanted to, I bet they could go with that. I'm not saying that's what happened, but the writers could spin it that way in the sequel.

It looked like that because it was a CGI blast. They couldn't really kill Kelsey Grammer and so it looks like that because the actor reacting to something that wasn't really there.

Sabrblade wrote:You'd have to work in something like magic or divine powers to explain his not being dead.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I was just thinking, and I came up with a theory for the sequel. What if KSI, or whoever's behind the man made TFs now puts Attanger's body inside of Lockdown's body to sustain his life? Just like they did with Silas and Breakdown in TFP.

That would be very unoriginal and uninspiring.

And like Autobot 032 said, it wouldn't make sense since both were already dead while Silas was still somewhat alive. KSI doesn't have the power to breathe life into lifelessness. They're not God.

cruizerdave wrote:I think that's a fair statement. Any series of films that gains humor from piss, masturbation, dogs humping, porno-robot girl, "bros before hoes," bathroom stall sex misunderstanding, black guy working at da butcher shop to get money to fix his teeth is low brow.