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Continuity is a double-edged sword of writing. It really is.

The fact that this story has a conclusion is the main reason why I'm glad it's ending. One of the most satisfying parts of any story is the ending, which is something you just don't get with most comic titles. I love my Batman comics, but really, unless it's an elseworlds story or something like Batman Beyond, you don't get to see the hero's ultimate triumph.

Reading the brazen bigotry of some people on this forum never fails to make me laugh. There is genuine comedy in the fact that an IP based around transforming alien robots has fans who are absolutely horrified by change.

I'm genuinely sorry that you guys were unable to enjoy these stories because of your personal beliefs/issues (or, in layman's terms, the "SJW nonsense" and "sexual dysphoria" ) but I've personally had a hell of a ride and taken great pleasure in introducing friends to the TF franchise via the IDW comics.

I'm glad the stories will reach definitive conclusions. If anything it will drive me to read some of the arcs/series again in the context of the overall story.

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Burn wrote:DC/Marvel like to do their "reboots" and call them "jumping on points", great way to attract new readers.

IDW Transformers never had that. Oh people can say they've ended one title to start another, BUT ... those new books will often refer back to some stupidly annoying plot point from 5+ years ago and that is the one thing that shitted me off the most about these books. Casual readers aren't going to remember some incredibly minor plot point from years ago.

Its why I never got into the comics "proper". I'm glad I waited for the Hachette collected editions, because I'm getting the full run (eventually) in chronological order. Kinda.

I'll be all up for picking up issue 1 of whatever new thing comes our way, though.

Burn wrote:Plus all the political and SJW nonsense.

I'm in two minds about this.

On one hand, Transformers is a setting mainly revolved around war, which more often than not is politically motivated, especially when brought into a more modern context. Plus going back to the root of G1 has "Peace Through Tyranny" vs "Freedom is the Right Of All Sentient Beings" - those two statements alone put a political ideal at the very heart of Transformers (in my opinion). Characters need motivations to be involved in the Autobot\Decepticon war and exploring those facets of characters is often going to draw out some level of their politics and ethics. Social justice is itself political (cite - Optimus Prime's motto again), so I'm not surprised when x,y,z movements of last\this century get shadowed in my robot comic. Sexuality I can take or leave it - the G1 show had its 'romances', as did the comic to a much lesser degree (Ultra Magnus and Cindy? ) and characters being homo\bi\pan\ect~sexual doesn't phase me when 90%+ of the population seems to be their equivalent to being male.

On the other hand... "forcing the issue"... leaves a bad taste in the mouth as a reader. Political motivations, equality questions, 'moral' stories - they're all great starting points for drama, when well written - even when its written specifically to have a certain effect. But - when its two dimensional and written just for the sake of inclusion (or indeed, condemnation) - then it sucks all the drama and quality out of it. I don't want to be preached to and if you're going to lace your story with your own political agenda - you need to give the "opposite" side more of a reason to be disagreeable than "I'm a massive asshole, just because". Done well - you have Megatron, who I felt was handled excellently. Done badly, you have Sentinel Prime during the whole Titan Master thing... ugh.

Burn wrote:That being said, I could overlook the majority of that and enjoy the majority of the books, but I'm glad it's ending because you have a beginning and you have an ending, thirteen years has been an incredible run and there'd be few comic book series out there that can claim they did that.

But as for them starting again ... eh, how many times can we rehash the same old war? They're really going to have to step their game up.

13 years is more than long enough. Especially when the lore is getting more patchy than Joseph's Technicolor Dreamcoat and as threadbare as Father John's favorite "sin sock". Tying the loose ends up and giving the continuity a 'proper' ending that is well planned out is much better than say the original Marvel run with "Hey Simon, you only have a few issues to wrap this up - Transformers is over" and the (really awful, imo) Last Autobot crap.

I agree about the "same old war". I really don't want another war comic, if I'm honest. Lost Light's "Star Trek" formula wasn't a bad idea in concept, but from what I've been reading of it - the implementation seemed wonky and became far too claustrophobic and "clicky".

If its going to be a "war comic", I'd much rather the "war" was something that was going on, with stories centering around pocketfuls of characters for a while, without having to necessarily advance the war (ie - whilst group A was doing this, group B was doing this, and C ect, so the continuity remained almost a static constant, with stories set within it, creating numerous on\off points for new and old readers)

Tommy T. wrote:Yeah I 100% agree, idw transformers is a complete mess. Stories jumping around , politics, robots in love with each other holding hands and hugging. Good riddance.

100%! This


When IDW started allowing their SJW writers to insert their politics into the storylines (ahem G.I. Joe cough cough) it all has gone down hill.

See what happened when politics seeped into Star Wars! The cash inflows have all dropped! Don't get me telling on how TFA and TLJ (the latter especially) were all box office hits! George Lucas got his massive cash inflows from the franchising and not the original trilogy alone. It just ain't happening with the Disney version.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, IDW after restructuring their finances are still in the red of about $ 2m up. I doubt it they can continue to pony up paying HB the licensing fees anymore.

Cheesinator wrote:Reading the brazen bigotry of some people on this forum never fails to make me laugh. There is genuine comedy in the fact that an IP based around transforming alien robots has fans who are absolutely horrified by change.

I'm genuinely sorry that you guys were unable to enjoy these stories because of your personal beliefs/issues (or, in layman's terms, the "SJW nonsense" and "sexual dysphoria" ) but I've personally had a hell of a ride and taken great pleasure in introducing friends to the TF franchise via the IDW comics.

I'm glad the stories will reach definitive conclusions. If anything it will drive me to read some of the arcs/series again in the context of the overall story.

Cash inflows don't lie. Are the comic books selling? Are there enough "woke" people buying the product? I use the Disney SW analogy. So it's the bigoted "few" who buy multiples, watch the movies multiples and go to the conventions etc etc. Does the "other side" also spend the same amount to support the franchise?

IDW is $ 2m +++ in the red.

I'm gonna come out and say that continuity is extremely important to a story, and without it everything falls apart. If you have to continually retcon, pull things from thin air, and/or retread the same old, same old, then it's more than time for an overhaul.

Hopefully the new literation of TF comics will improve on every level.

"HA! This is bad comedy!"

Transformers has had robots holding hands and hugging since G1. Since Elita 1 and the femmbots. Since Powerglide's girlfriend. Since Seaspray's girlfriend.
Oh, unless, perhaps, it's the same sex couples people specifically have a problem with. Yes, in a series about autonomous robots. That don't even have organic genders to begin with. Why should it matter? It's a much more accepting world, with increased representation of sexualities, genders, races, and religion in ALL forms of media. Get used to it, because that's all any media is going to be for the rest of time. Complaining about politics in a story based around a war between two races of a species is a redundant and fruitless battle.

I'm sure that will get me all sorts of comments, but *shrug*

One of the main reasons I'm glad it's ending is so I can pick up on page 1. Be with the new continuity from the beginning, and not have a 13 year backlog staring me down. I look forward to seeing where it goes from here,

Skritz wrote:And because I'm a masochist who love to put himself into trouble:

There's a major difference in quality between clearly political works which remain nonetheless loved and enjoyable and the modern trite often churned out by hacks who also happen to be completely awful people. This seem to be quite the trend in comics that, when you don't really have any particular talent at storytelling, you resort to boring non-stories which consistent of some mix of talking mouthpieces spouting entire walls of text in speech balloons, poopy unsubtle and even stupid political allegory or just flat out demonizing a huge strawman. Something Marvel has been pretty **** bad at. See: She-Thor and the oh-so-memed to death [Unsolicited Opinions on Israel???] moment.

Robocop is a heavily political movie with a ton of social critique of it's era but had has held up because it is MORE than just Paul Verhoeven ranting about his views on certain things. It has a lot of unique artistic touches, excellent action scenes, touching moments, likeable and unlikable-in-a-good-way character and even some mild, possibly accidental symbolism (Robocop is cyborg American police Jesus?). What people have been increasingly objecting to is the vitriolic, in-your-face writing often seen in comics these days. Perhaps if the writers understood subtlety and nuance it would not be as noticeable and perhaps there would be more to like in those comics than just people making fun of extremely cringeworthy dialogue. What I'm trying to say is you can make the argument of "Everything is political, man" but then that doesn't mean it's written well or in any way that is smart.

So in other words: don't be boring. Don't be a bad writer.

Yup yup and YUP!

It all amount of too much in your face politics masquerading as a comic book. Comics are our escape(same with movies and videogames) from the daily drudgery we call life.

We come in suspending our disbelief to enjoy a good STORY. Not another preachy force feeding of your world view (if that was the case, I'd be going to church). Want a message, do it in an allegorical sense.

TF already had the Jim Shooter treatment (who is verily critical of what was done to the current Comic book climate). Like him or not, comics book story telling was at its peak during his stint at Marvel.

The original TF treatment back in 1984.

Civil war

Bad guys vs good guys okay ...... robots

One side was picking on the other for not "conforming", for bringing the stagnation of peace and prosperity to Cybertron

Decepticons were "superior" to the Autobots because? Fill in the blanks........

Fuel resources became limited

Constant war threatened the "entire" world of Cybertron breaking it out of it's original orbit ( okay, you can retcon it to Primus intentionally being responsible)

An advance society imposing their values ( Cybertrons) on the backward Earthings (Prime offered to barter their tech to Earth for fuel)

You got a backstabbing second in command

We event have the "aliens" have landed myth included with the Ark being buried on Earth 4 m years ago.

Etc etc

We all see that in our daily live but it was all treated in an allegorical way (a genius way at that)

Just get back to basic storytelling and do a good job with it!

Amelie wrote:

Burn wrote:Plus all the political and SJW nonsense.

I'm in two minds about this.

On one hand, Transformers is a setting mainly revolved around war, which more often than not is politically motivated, especially when brought into a more modern context. Plus going back to the root of G1 has "Peace Through Tyranny" vs "Freedom is the Right Of All Sentient Beings" - those two statements alone put a political ideal at the very heart of Transformers (in my opinion). Characters need motivations to be involved in the Autobot\Decepticon war and exploring those facets of characters is often going to draw out some level of their politics and ethics. Social justice is itself political (cite - Optimus Prime's motto again), so I'm not surprised when x,y,z movements of last\this century get shadowed in my robot comic. Sexuality I can take or leave it - the G1 show had its 'romances', as did the comic to a much lesser degree (Ultra Magnus and Cindy? ) and characters being homo\bi\pan\ect~sexual doesn't phase me when 90%+ of the population seems to be their equivalent to being male.

On the other hand... "forcing the issue"... leaves a bad taste in the mouth as a reader. Political motivations, equality questions, 'moral' stories - they're all great starting points for drama, when well written - even when its written specifically to have a certain effect. But - when its two dimensional and written just for the sake of inclusion (or indeed, condemnation) - then it sucks all the drama and quality out of it. I don't want to be preached to and if you're going to lace your story with your own political agenda - you need to give the "opposite" side more of a reason to be disagreeable than "I'm a massive asshole, just because". Done well - you have Megatron, who I felt was handled excellently. Done badly, you have Sentinel Prime during the whole Titan Master thing... ugh.

Everything you said here? I can agree and understand with. Second point especially, to me it felt forced, it felt like the writer was pushing their agenda and beliefs and that they were jumping on the bandwagon.

Before anyone else decides to call me a bigot, understand that I'm not. I'm all for people living their lives however they want, in whatever fashion they want, as long as it's all consensual.

But how IDW went about it ... it really put me off, because it didn't feel "natural". To me, IDW went "this is a big thing at the moment, lets put it in the comics".

Is it a major plot point? Not really, but I feel it's also not a necessary plot point.

Amelie wrote:13 years is more than long enough. Especially when the lore is getting more patchy than Joseph's Technicolor Dreamcoat and as threadbare as Father John's favorite "sin sock". Tying the loose ends up and giving the continuity a 'proper' ending that is well planned out is much better than say the original Marvel run with "Hey Simon, you only have a few issues to wrap this up - Transformers is over" and the (really awful, imo) Last Autobot crap.

I agree about the "same old war". I really don't want another war comic, if I'm honest. Lost Light's "Star Trek" formula wasn't a bad idea in concept, but from what I've been reading of it - the implementation seemed wonky and became far too claustrophobic and "clicky".

If its going to be a "war comic", I'd much rather the "war" was something that was going on, with stories centering around pocketfuls of characters for a while, without having to necessarily advance the war (ie - whilst group A was doing this, group B was doing this, and C ect, so the continuity remained almost a static constant, with stories set within it, creating numerous on\off points for new and old readers)

I've always wanted to see stories revolve around the "grunt" type characters. The lesser knowns, something that ISN'T the same old core group.

But that being said, I wouldn't want a book dedicated solely to the war either, that's why I actually did like IDW's decision to concentrate on post-war.

The war has been done.
Post war has been done.
Unicron has been done.

So what they do next, I have no idea which way they could go, but whatever way they do, bring it on so I can bitch about it in private to Va'al.

Bronzewolf wrote:"HA! This is bad comedy!"

Transformers has had robots holding hands and hugging since G1. Since Elita 1 and the femmbots. Since Powerglide's girlfriend. Since Seaspray's girlfriend.
Oh, unless, perhaps, it's the same sex couples people specifically have a problem with. Yes, in a series about autonomous robots. That don't even have organic genders to begin with. Why should it matter? It's a much more accepting world, with increased representation of sexualities, genders, races, and religion in ALL forms of media. Get used to it, because that's all any media is going to be for the rest of time. Complaining about politics in a story based around a war between two races of a species is a redundant and fruitless battle.

I'm sure that will get me all sorts of comments, but *shrug*

One of the main reasons I'm glad it's ending is so I can pick up on page 1. Be with the new continuity from the beginning, and not have a 13 year backlog staring me down. I look forward to seeing where it goes from here,

So you don't want the consumer, who has some purchasing investment on a product to complain and just be a lemming and accept?

Kind of a slippery slope you are advocating. Well, the "consumer" can do is complain with their wallet and stop buying the product which will kill the franchise.

Is IDW going to handle the license again? Can they still afford it?

With the debacle Disney brought to SW (Hb despite being in the black is feeling the repercussions with the dismal sales of their SW products), Hb should be wise and learn its lessons on how not to kill a goose that lays its golden egg. (SW was supposed to be a fail safe franchise until all tinkering with its mythos). Sure TF is still riding strong but the winds of fate are fickle. Again, I am using SW as a gold standard.

fenrir72 wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:"HA! This is bad comedy!"

Transformers has had robots holding hands and hugging since G1. Since Elita 1 and the femmbots. Since Powerglide's girlfriend. Since Seaspray's girlfriend.
Oh, unless, perhaps, it's the same sex couples people specifically have a problem with. Yes, in a series about autonomous robots. That don't even have organic genders to begin with. Why should it matter? It's a much more accepting world, with increased representation of sexualities, genders, races, and religion in ALL forms of media. Get used to it, because that's all any media is going to be for the rest of time. Complaining about politics in a story based around a war between two races of a species is a redundant and fruitless battle.

I'm sure that will get me all sorts of comments, but *shrug*

One of the main reasons I'm glad it's ending is so I can pick up on page 1. Be with the new continuity from the beginning, and not have a 13 year backlog staring me down. I look forward to seeing where it goes from here,

So you don't want the consumer, who has some purchasing investment on a product to complain and just be a lemming and accept?

Kind of a slippery slope you are advocating. Well, the "consumer" can do is complain with their wallet and stop buying the product which will kill the franchise.

...that isn't really a genuine counterpoint to anything I said. You do understand how hypocritical you're being when complaining, correct? War. Is. Political. There is not a single part of any organized war that isn't political. Unless, again, the complaint is specifically about the inclusion of LGBTQ characters?

For my opinions on all this, I think that political stuff and whatever you want to call the other stuff can work in a story as long as it's thought out and properly planned long before hand and not shoved in there for the sake of having it in the story as well as writing said elements good and naturally like you would with more standard/simple things.

Like don't write or treat a same sex relationship any differently then a opposite sex one, and since it's robots (hence no uh major "physical activities" and more of just actual love bonds) this should be even more easy to do then with organic characters.

As for a Transformer and human relationship...it could work I guess? But that's a tricky subject that I don't think should be done until the writers can do other simpler relationships first (From a writing stand point not a personal opinion standpoint)


*exhale*

Anyways as for IDW ending in general I think this is the time to end it, I would of probably preferred just a couple more months ( and issues so from like say Optimus and Lost Light issues 25 to issue 30) to make it all seem less rushed like it is like right now. (IDW ending has made the recent issues very rushed in paced and in the case of say Lost Light it suffers from this change of pace to finish the story)

But in general from a story telling perspective it's the way to end it, besides the genius idea of ending the continuity with Unicron the robot Satan and logically the ultimate threat concluding these journeys like the Lost Light voyage and the gathering of the colonies, besides expanding the stuff for a few more issues I don't think there was really anything to do afterwards, the story can't go on forever it will eventually have to end before it gets too convoluted.


The continuity problems is part of why I believe that comics as they are right now are a flawed story telling method, multiple titles, writers, artists and other creative teams get constantly moved around with people leaving and people joining which makes the direction and tone of the story constantly change.

What idw should do next time is start small with only 1 or 2 titles (and one main artist for each book, not including inkests or whatever their called) and stick with either a couple of writers or plan a big road map of how the continuity is going to go instead of just driving the ship blindly and just writing as it happens.

So really I should say I want absolute consistency next time around.

I stopped reading IDW years ago. I cannot wait for a fresh start.

Bronzewolf wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:"HA! This is bad comedy!"

Transformers has had robots holding hands and hugging since G1. Since Elita 1 and the femmbots. Since Powerglide's girlfriend. Since Seaspray's girlfriend.
Oh, unless, perhaps, it's the same sex couples people specifically have a problem with. Yes, in a series about autonomous robots. That don't even have organic genders to begin with. Why should it matter? It's a much more accepting world, with increased representation of sexualities, genders, races, and religion in ALL forms of media. Get used to it, because that's all any media is going to be for the rest of time. Complaining about politics in a story based around a war between two races of a species is a redundant and fruitless battle.

I'm sure that will get me all sorts of comments, but *shrug*

One of the main reasons I'm glad it's ending is so I can pick up on page 1. Be with the new continuity from the beginning, and not have a 13 year backlog staring me down. I look forward to seeing where it goes from here,

So you don't want the consumer, who has some purchasing investment on a product to complain and just be a lemming and accept?

Kind of a slippery slope you are advocating. Well, the "consumer" can do is complain with their wallet and stop buying the product which will kill the franchise.

...that isn't really a genuine counterpoint to anything I said. You do understand how hypocritical you're being when complaining, correct? War. Is. Political. There is not a single part of any organized war that isn't political. Unless, again, the complaint is specifically about the inclusion of LGBTQ characters?

Hypocritical? About what? A hypocrite is one who says one thing and does the other. Maybe I should also refer to you as "dictatorial" as well for squelching an opposite opinion.

I am criticizing your advocating "don't complain" Just shuddap approach. That is a slippery slope. Are ABCDEFG issues sacred cows that'd can't be "criticized?

As for War, the TF war originally was approached in an allegorical style. Allegory. We already have enough of politics and war in the real world to have it seep into the hobby we got.

Can't customers/consumers who don't like a product direction complain? Simple. Regardless of the issues. Also, see where the SJW strategy of immediately labeling the opposite side of the fence got them (Lucasfilm), especially with SWs. Bigoted, man babies etc etc. Labeled immediately. Izzat what is taught in college now?

Them "deplorables" and bigoted side of the fandom know how to spend and where to put their money. Are the opposite side of the fence ready to also pony up the cash (with SW, the revenues are falling so that means no).

And again about "change". Hb did try( some say cynical one at that) back in 1986 when they tried to "change" a character by killing Optimus Prime. See where it got them. Not all change is good. Especially a cash cow that keeps on giving like the character Optimus. SW was just like that, an unlimited cash cow/ golden goose until............

fenrir72 wrote:Are ABCDEFG issues sacred cows that'd can't be "criticized?

This right here? This is how you invalidate your entire post, simply by being disrespectful AND expose your bigotry, something you tried to argue you weren't.

LGBQTI, it's not that hard. Get your opinion across respectfully.

Ah one thing I forgot to mention is that how fresh would a reboot be?

We have 30 years worth of rebooting the war, what can one really do to make it fresh?

I would say that instead of characters like Optimus and Megatron being the main focus characters were instead more of the background (but still important) characters with mostly new guys and obscure guys being the view point characters (but with some recognisable guys like say Windcharger or Inferno thrown in for example so there is still star appeal for fans).

Let the war be big by not focusing on the war but on small scale conflicts and skirmishes with emphasis on character stories, instead of Prime and co being on Earth it's these less important (to the war) guys.


Also don't have it all be dark and grim, only let it be serious when it's the right moment, let war be undignified yes but let relaxing downtime breaks exist and those would be the issues for silly comedic stuff.

God I have so much story and character ideas to make some parts fresh like Shockwave being emotionless not because of deleted emotions but because he isn't really alive anymore but a digital mind stored in dozens of drones (all mostly distinct in form and finction and either original or inspired by the many different forms of Shockwave across media like movie and energon and foc, gun shockwave's, tank shockwave's, jet shockwave's, car shockwave's, scientist shockwave's, crazy battle warrior shockwave's, undercover autobot traitor shockwave's you name it)

Well, ultimately time will be the judge on IDW Transformers and it's influence to the franchise. There is a very good chance it will leave a permanent mark of the franchise irrlevant if me or others like it. To say a work I don't like (or partially didn't like) would need to be 'wiped from the history of the serie' purely because it does not fit my taste or what I want out of the serie would be hypocrisy simply because of the following: I'm a Beast Wars fan.

Even to this day there are people loudly screeching that BW is an abomination with no redeeming quality, yet so many aspect of the story and world it invented are here to stay. I suspect the same will happen with IDW's influence, for both good and for ill. Time will tell and be the judge, not me. Or you. Or any of us.

Marvel does relaunch their books with a renumbering of their titles,they don't really reboot.

There also is positve views of long comic continuity done right.Many stories have a long backround but can be inviting to new readers.
You can tell stories in a long continuity,without it being a burden.



Also this new continuity will be easier to follow,but remenber it will get bigger as time go on.

I don't mean to be an downer,but I also want to people to consider this in long-term.

fenrir72 wrote:That is a slippery slope. Are ABCDEFG issues sacred cows that'd can't be "criticized?

There we go, outright saying it. They aren't untouchable, but if the criticism is simply that they're there, you're wrong. And if your response is how the relationships were placed into the story or how they were rubbed in your face, I doubt you'd have a problem if a heterosexual relationship was executed in the same manner.

And again about "change". Hb did try( some say cynical one at that) back in 1986 when they tried to "change" a character by killing Optimus Prime. See where it got them. Not all change is good. Especially a cash cow that keeps on giving like the character Optimus. SW was just like that, an unlimited cash cow/ golden goose until............

Hahahahahahahahahaha what you're implying is so bigoted and offensive I'm not even going bother.

If corporate mishandling of a franchise and misunderstanding what the majority of fans wanted is what pass for bigotry I wouldn't want to even imagine what word you'd use to call countries where people are actually murdered for their ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation.

Yeah yeah, I know, franchises can't stagnate and need to try new things. Unfortunately, franchises also walk the tight rope called 'not alienating people'. Its a very peculiar situation where you need to be able to keep things fresh, interesting and unique unique without needing to throw aside the old fans unless they know they can secure new ones. Which has, in fact, been an issue with Star Wars as the cast and crew expressed vitriol at people who expressed dissatisfaction with some directions the franchise has taken.

If IDW does continue the TF comics line, I'd really like it if they could, as others have said, keep the creative team small and the titles down to no more than two, one if possible. I feel this is part of the reason Marvel/DC gets things so tangled up(more on that a little further down).

What I would really like to see is something I don't feel a lot of others would agree with but I think it could work. I'd like to see them possibly start a new story but not to forget the previous 13 years like it didn't happen. I really don't like it when they do that in any comic series. I don't think(nor do I want)the new title to rehash anything old. But there need to be references made to the War, post war, and even the Unicron saga/ending. Don't just ignore it. Simply use it to explain how the characters we are now reading about got wherever it is they are, make the references for no more than one or two issues at most, and then move away to your new focus, whatever that is.

The IDW continuity, despite being quite difficult at times to follow, is at least there. I think that may have to do more with the fact that I am reading trades and so the order I need to read them in has been something I have had to research. But the stories have been better than anything I've read before and I can go months without reading a new one and at least I have the general idea, even if the small details get lost here or there.

I like Marvel and DC. But when I hear people upset with the continuity factor with TF/IDW, I can't help but think of just how hard Marvel and DC really are to follow. I have to research things just to make sure I am buying the correct volume for whatever comic I want to read as there are so many. Marvel seemingly relaunches things after every 20 or so issues and before the last issue of said run has had time to cool on the back issue racks, the new iteration is out. And has absolutely zero to do with what came before. Like the previous stuff didn't happen. And then other times, they get arbitrary about that stance, and decide to throw in references to things that did happen in crossover events or other titles, dating back to as many as two or even three years prior(depending on the title). And the legacy numbering was the absolute definition of arbitrary. And DC...I'm not even sure I fully understand. Things rebooted and random parts of the continuity were lost/left out from the old universe.

I feel IDW, all factors considered, saved a lot of TF fans from some of the headaches experienced by fans of other franchises. I just hope wherever they go next, the stories are at least an extension of what has come before.

Fenrir, if you have any proof about your continuous financial claims about IDW, you are more than welcome to share it.

As for the license, no one I spoke to at IDW had anything to say about it not being renewed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯