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Hmmm... Well if you were to ask me, the next leader should be someone experienced, brave, kind, intelligent,and can keep a situation under control. They can be nice but they can also kick skidplate. I feel someone like Bumblebee, Air raid or Sideswipe are a little too inexperienced to lead. Warpath is a little to hard headed and someone like Ironhide or Scattorshot, are bots made to be soldiers. Although it would be intersting, I just can't see Arcee be leader. Ratchet would never take the job because he know his job is being a medic. Silverbolt, although a good leader, wouldn't accept it either. He's already afraid of heights and commanding the Aerialbots, so he's probably all set. Jetfire is more a scientist then a leader. Which brings me to my choice...Jazz. He's already been leader before, and in many continuities, he's Optimus' second-in-command. It would be only be natural he would be chosen. He's brave yet humble. He's kind but can fight. Almost all the Autobots already like him. He can keep a cool head in any situation, plus he's good with change and improvisation. He's got the brains to do it too, and wants to protect all life. And being apart of the Special Ops, he's got the skill to take on almost anyone. He's cool, he's tough. He's Jazz. I believe he's the best choice for becoming the next Autobot leader.

Bumblebee should be next in line for leader. Im not really a big fan of him, its just that Im making a 3 hour stopmotion showing what happens when Optimus dies and chooses Bumblebee as the leader and Unicron comes to kill all of Cybertron, I got the script and the sequel's done and the third one almost done and everything! With that said, I think Bumblebee would be a good leader for a few reasons. Reason number one, you said it was a new continualty, so you could change his style and personality whenever you want. Another thing is that he was one of the first Autobots that Optimus met when he became leader, and he has learned from Optimus from being around him all the time. He can be trusted, unlike Rodimus and Ultra Magnus, and with the power of The Matrix who knows what Bumblebee could do? Thats actually one of the points of that 3 hour stopmotion I was talking about. Hes a scout already, but with years of watching Optimus and the power of the Matrix, he could ultimately be unstopable. Even though he is young and small, hes still fairly experienced in combat and infiltration, and someone who Optimus has trusted since his role as Prime.

So, Bumblebee for leader if Optimus dies!

My pick is Bumblebee

People think that 'cause he's small he cant be a great leader, well Optimus felt the same and he became the Autobots leader. Bumblebee should have the honored theres no one more perfect for it,
he's an intelligence agent so he has the knowledge and knows how to sneek on Decepticons. He has the firepower too, he's not the weakling from the cartoons he's a warrior. He may not be Ironhide or Ratchet (who by the way i cant see as a leader, he's the medic) or Jazz but Bumblebee has the potential.Bumblebee can be the next Prime for sure.

Naturally, i would pick Iron Hide.But you have to remember Ironhide is all brawn and no brains. (Sorry IH fans.) But jazz on the other hand would make a great prime. He may not be strong, he may not be the best solider out there, but he is one Heck of a strategist.He would defiantly lead the autobots to victory. Whats the whole point of a army if you don't know how to use one. jazz has experience. he knows what to do on the battlefield. and he's still capable of it. Optimus always counts as jazz. (cartoon, movie, etc) jazz is always optimus's right hand man. he would make a great leader.

If Optimus were ever to fall in battle, the choice for his successor would be clear. Bumblebee or Jazz? They’re both great scouts, but they wouldn’t fit the position of leader. Warpath or Scattorshot? They’re both powerhouses in the midst of war but once again, they’re unsuited for the position of Prime. The only true choice for the new Prime would be Jetfire. His morality is amongst the strongest of the Autobots, and that would allow him to make the choices that even Optimus Prime himself would have at least considered. His past as a scientist also gives him the intelligence to lead with not only morality, but reason as well, something that will help him analyze the hard choices that may befall a leader and respond in the most appropriate manner. He’s also a fearless and incredibly powerful fighter that will put himself in harm’s way in order to protect his fellow Autobots. For these reasons, Jetfire is the perfect candidate to receive the rank of Prime.

JetFire? Please. Sure Jetfire is scientist and all but that doesn't mean hes automatically suited for prime. You see, jet fire is great and all, but he just isn't ready for a big role like that. Jazz, rachet, now there ready for prime because they have a lot of experience in the battlefield. Jazz is second in command so naturally when something happens he takes command. Jetfire is a scientist. lets keep it that way.

Bumblecade23 wrote:Hmmm... Well if you were to ask me, the next leader should be someone experienced, brave, kind, intelligent,and can keep a situation under control. They can be nice but they can also kick skidplate. I feel someone like Bumblebee, Air raid or Sideswipe are a little too inexperienced to lead. Warpath is a little to hard headed and someone like Ironhide or Scattorshot, are bots made to be soldiers. Although it would be intersting, I just can't see Arcee be leader. Ratchet would never take the job because he know his job is being a medic. Silverbolt, although a good leader, wouldn't accept it either. He's already afraid of heights and commanding the Aerialbots, so he's probably all set. Jetfire is more a scientist then a leader. Which brings me to my choice...Jazz. He's already been leader before, and in many continuities, he's Optimus' second-in-command. It would be only be natural he would be chosen. He's brave yet humble. He's kind but can fight. Almost all the Autobots already like him. He can keep a cool head in any situation, plus he's good with change and improvisation. He's got the brains to do it too, and wants to protect all life. And being apart of the Special Ops, he's got the skill to take on almost anyone. He's cool, he's tough. He's Jazz. I believe he's the best choice for becoming the next Autobot leader.

i agree with you. ironhide, warpath, and all soilders arent just right for the job. jazz may not be strong, but usually hes prime's right hand man and a great/lead strategist for the autobots. jazz would be a GREAT leader.

Optimus Prime -- Personal Log

The death of Zeta Prime has taken its toll among the Autobots. Many fear that without his leadership this war will be the end of us all. I too am among those who feel this way, but since I am Prime, I can not afford the price of these thoughts. His death is also a constant reminder that I too maybe destroyed; and if this comes to pass, who would I choose to replace me? There are many brave Autobots under my commander who could perhaps fill the role, one day, but are now still too raw. Silverbolt has the determination, but lacks the confidence. AirRaid is still too young. Ironhide and Warpath are better suited for collateral damage, then command decisions. Bumblebee has the courage and strength, but I fear the darkness of these acts could cause him too loose that makes him strong. Ratchet's kindness and triage techniques makes him valuable for healing the wounded, but this could cloud his judgment in an astrosecond decision. Arcee, Sideswipe and Scattorshot are brave warriors, but all lack the training and dedication that is needed for a Prime. This leaves Jazz and Jetfire. Both would make fine Primes, they have all the strength and abilities to be able to defeat Megatron, as well as the strength of character to hold the Autobots together during this darkest hour. Alas there can only be ONE Prime. As dear a friend that Jazz is, he has the tendency to be reckless, and Jetfire's dealings with Starscream and this 'Dark Energon' could prove valuable to our cause.
Let it be know too all, If I were to fall in battle, that Jetfire be my recommendation for the next Prime, followed secondly only by Jazz.

End Log

The best succesor for optimus prime would be ironhide. Ironhide has been in the autobot army for some time and has alot of experience. Ironhide also has incredidle strength required for an autobot leader. Along with his strength and expreince ironhide also knows how to lead and formulate battle plans. This shows ironhide would be the best succesor for optimus prime.

at first the bot who came to mind was bumblebee but then i got to thinking, he is to small, and he still needs to mature. so then i was stuck between ironhide and ratchet, then it came to me, how about co leaders, ironhide for the brawn and ratchet for the brains. so thats my decision. ratchet is one of the most loyal autobots and if one of his fellow autobots were to get injured ratchet would have to stay back unable to see enemies, thats were ironhide comes in and defends his partner.

Simply put, Ironhide would be the best successor of Optimus Prime for leader of the Autobots. For one, Ironhide is a trusted friend and commrade of Optimus for a reason. In addition, Ironhide, without question, possesses the brawn, confidence, honesty, and dedication of a true leader. While some may label him as a "gunslinger" of sorts, I would argue that the responsibilities inherited by him as a Prime, would bestow upon him the maturity and sensibility necessary to carry out the role honorably. I can even imagine that with every decision or task that Irohide performed, "is this what Optimus would do?" would always be in the back of his mind giving him a sense on conscience as well.

Quarnz wrote:Optimus Prime -- Personal Log

The death of Zeta Prime has taken its toll among the Autobots. Many fear that without his leadership this war will be the end of us all. I too am among those who feel this way, but since I am Prime, I can not afford the price of these thoughts. His death is also a constant reminder that I too maybe destroyed; and if this comes to pass, who would I choose to replace me? There are many brave Autobots under my commander who could perhaps fill the role, one day, but are now still too raw. Silverbolt has the determination, but lacks the confidence. AirRaid is still too young. Ironhide and Warpath are better suited for collateral damage, then command decisions. Bumblebee has the courage and strength, but I fear the darkness of these acts could cause him too loose that makes him strong. Ratchet's kindness and triage techniques makes him valuable for healing the wounded, but this could cloud his judgment in an astrosecond decision. Arcee, Sideswipe and Scattorshot are brave warriors, but all lack the training and dedication that is needed for a Prime. This leaves Jazz and Jetfire. Both would make fine Primes, they have all the strength and abilities to be able to defeat Megatron, as well as the strength of character to hold the Autobots together during this darkest hour. Alas there can only be ONE Prime. As dear a friend that Jazz is, he has the tendency to be reckless, and Jetfire's dealings with Starscream and this 'Dark Energon' could prove valuable to our cause.
Let it be know too all, If I were to fall in battle, that Jetfire be my recommendation for the next Prime, followed secondly only by Jazz.

End Log

Shockwave personal log.

Optimus you fool. yet again you think that "courage" and "hope" will help the autobots win the war. How foolish. A true leader must be strong, and powerful and determined to do WHATEVER IT TAKES TO WIN. This hope and compassion will only cause your doom. Oh, and one more thing, Zeta prime is still alive...

End Log

Warpath takes the shot! Even with the loss of the great optimus prime the autobots would not be without hope. Their are great and talented autobots waiting to step up and take command, but none more eager than Warpath. warpath is a brave, determined Warrior whos not affraid to show the decepticons some attitude! He is always looking for a fight and his strengh and guns will be more than that needed in such a loss. HE may be one of the youngest autobots and not have the brightest spark of the lot, but the autobots need change after the loss of Zeta and Optimus Prime, and with a fighter this talented Warpath might actually survive one of Megatrons one on ones. This mean fighting machine really DOES have "The Touch". (P.S my previous post was not an entry)

Optimus falls. Who should be the next Prime. Bumblebee has spirit and courage but the Prime has to have experience and the raw power and talent to lead. Besides Bumble Prime just doesn’t sound good. Ironhide is a warrior and could make a good leader, although most likely a reluctant one. The same could be said for Jazz, Silverbolt and myself. None of us feel we could replace Optimus. But Optimus was also reluctant while Zeta on the other hand was always ambitious. Even changing his name from Sentinel Prime to Zeta Prime indicating that he would be the last Prime. His complacency in overseeing the cast system was his undoing and this has eventually leaded to the Transformers Exodus of Cybertron. Maybe being reluctant to lead is an attribute of a great Prime. Above all, in these trying times we need a Prime that understands the problem. “Dark Energon” and its effects on Cybertron. If we are going to rebuild Cybertron it will take not just courage, power, or leadership. It will take science. Among the mysteries of science lies the key to victory and Cybertron’s revival. Hmmmm Jet Prime, Prime Fire, Fire Maximus Prime. It matters not what they call me. On the inside I’m still JetFire and as the former guardian of Cybertronion space I’m sure I can lead my Autobots to another planet aboard the Ark, better than any energon seeker could, where we can prepare for Cybertron’s restoration and return the spark housed in this matrix to Cybertron’s core. Above all it’s what Optimus would want. This blue planet in this sector of the Milkyway Galaxy looks promising.

Bill from Left 4 Dead.

Hang on...

I think there's a few autobots who might feel the need to fit that role, but not take it. In the heat of battle, Ironhide or warpath may command the autobots to victor for that fight, but not for good. Silverbolt is really who shines as a good leader. He, like Optimus, may not be so eager to take place of the leader before him. Silverbolt may take time to get to the position, but once he has it, he'll treat every situation with respect and then force if needed. In the game they even seem to touch on his leadership abilities. He's a fine leader for the flying autobots already, and it would transfer over very well to the entire autobot army.

Windsweeper wrote:Just reading this thread and I have some questions?

Silverbolt is generally disliked? I've never seen any evidence of this in any incarnation.

Arcee is not the first female TF? Who is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transforme ... _Cybertron
# Silverbolt (voiced by Patrick Seitz) - Silverbolt is an anti-social transformer, and most Autobots prefer not to be around him. He transforms into a Cybertronian jet. Can be unlocked by entering a code for the DS version.[18]

I mistook what was on Wikipedia for what was on the game's website. So, I stand corrected, but, doesn't change my position of who should lead. If anything making Silverbolt the leader would be temporary since he's basically sacrificing himself all the time.

If Optimus Prime ever dies, there is only one Autobot who has all the characteristics to be the next Autobot successor. IRONHIDE. Even the name strikes fear into the decepticons' sparks. He always knows how to put up a fight. Most importantly, he is always looking for a fight. Ironhide never goes to a fight with just his guns. He has strength that will blow your mind. You wonder why everybody loves Ironhide, because he is the Autobot people have been wanting for a long time. Usually now the Autobots are all about bringing good and being all goody goody. Ironhide, however is the Autobot who's not afraid of nothing, he will take care of business his own way. He is still an Autobot and will fight for good but he is the one who will lay down the law. He will not flee from a fight. NEVER would Ironhide flee from a fight. Ironhide has always been one of Optimus's closest comrades. Ironhide will be there to defend you wherever you are at or whatever trouble you might be in. You can always count on Ironhide to be there for you and to be a great leader.

Now the second Part:
Look at these pictures of Ironhide










(images courtesy to google images)
Now looking at these pictures you can tell Ironhide still looks like a robot you don't want to mess with. All the way from back in the day when the old cartoons came on to 2010 you can tell Ironhide is meant to be a bad jackson. Take a minute and look at these pictures. Look at how much Ironhide has evolved. Now, I do say he might have had one or two bad times, but Ironhide is the one who is fit for a leader. A leader has to be strong and tough, not afraid of nothing, willing to defend comrades, always ready for a fight, and always know what to do. Ironhide is perfect for the position of the Autobot leader.

Now if you still don't think Ironhide is perfect for the position of the Autobot Leader, then check this out.


I- Iron spark(shows no mercy)

R- Runs over Decepticons

O- Overlooks all the Decepicons he destroyed

N- Never flees from a flight


H- Has always had big guns

I- Infinite strength

D- Destroys all Decepticons

E- Ends all fights by killing Decepticons



Ironhide is the perfect Autobot leader once Optimus Prime dies. He has strength, skill, tactics, fire power, and the desire to kill Decepticons. Just what every Autobot needs, Ironhide has. Ironhide is the perfect autobot leader.

Ok, to start off, there are a lot of characters on the list that shouldn't even be considered. Arcee? Jetfire? Yikes!

But I've gotta say, I think Ratchet would make for an interesting choice. While he's never been portrayed as a leader, I keep coming back to the fact that he's essential a surgeon in a M.A.S.H. unit.

He's gotta keep his cool while under fire, and not accidentally sever an Autobot's equilibrium circuits with his electro-scalpel. He has to assess the injuries to an Autobot, and decide on a plan of attack. He has to prioritize which 'Bots need help first. The guy is all about making tough decisions.

Now, I know what you're thinking. Why would a 'Bot who repairs other 'Bots want to lead his friends into situations where he's going to have to repair them? Well, maybe if Ratchet were in charge, he'd find ways around the fighting, knowing the damage that it causes. He would only fight when it's absolutely necessary.

And, being in charge, Ratchet wouldn't have to be involved in the violence himself. I know we're all used to seeing the "leader" (be it a Prime, Duke from GI Joe, or Cyclops of the X-Men) take charge and actually leading his team into a fight, but in the real world (man, I wish there Transformers in the real world!) a leader sits in safety and directs his troops where to go.

I think Ratchet would be fantastic at assesing a situation, deciding on the best course of action, and maybe even finding resolutions with a minimum of fluid loss.

Jetfire

He has intimate knowledge of the seekers because of working with them for so long defending the dark energon. He would know many of their tendencies, weaknesses, and strengths. He is also a scientist which would imply that he is a knowledgeable thinker which would also be a good characteristic of a leader. He has also shown that he can more than hold his own in a fight in leading the successful attack on Trypticon's transformation core. For these reasons I think Jetfire has the characteristics to be a great leader.

Kenemus wrote:Optimus falls. Who should be the next Prime. Bumblebee has spirit and courage but the Prime has to have experience and the raw power and talent to lead. Besides Bumble Prime just doesn’t sound good. Ironhide is a warrior and could make a good leader, although most likely a reluctant one. The same could be said for Jazz, Silverbolt and myself. None of us feel we could replace Optimus. But Optimus was also reluctant while Zeta on the other hand was always ambitious. Even changing his name from Sentinel Prime to Zeta Prime indicating that he would be the last Prime. His complacency in overseeing the cast system was his undoing and this has eventually leaded to the Transformers Exodus of Cybertron. Maybe being reluctant to lead is an attribute of a great Prime. Above all, in these trying times we need a Prime that understands the problem. “Dark Energon” and its effects on Cybertron. If we are going to rebuild Cybertron it will take not just courage, power, or leadership. It will take science. Among the mysteries of science lies the key to victory and Cybertron’s revival. Hmmmm Jet Prime, Prime Fire, Fire Maximus Prime. It matters not what they call me. On the inside I’m still JetFire and as the former guardian of Cybertronion space I’m sure I can lead my Autobots to another planet aboard the Ark, better than any energon seeker could, where we can prepare for Cybertron’s restoration and return the spark housed in this matrix to Cybertron’s core. Above all it’s what Optimus would want. This blue planet in this sector of the Milkyway Galaxy looks promising.

BTW the Sentinel/Zeta Prime and Cast system reference is from the book "Transformers Exodus of Cybertron" which is based on the game. The game itself doesn't go into this story much. A couple of friends asked about it but I'm sure most of you knew this anyway.

so who won the dlc? when will it be announced?

starscream1017 wrote:so who won the dlc? when will it be announced?

Anyone? Beuller.......

Sorry, my fault here. I've been drudged with school work the past few weeks. Will try to get the winners out this weekend.

Good to hear, I was feeling pretty confident about my entry but now that I've seen the other entries, not so confident anymore.

P.S. I love your sig, big HOTD fan and Saeko is definitely my favorite female character.