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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:03 am

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AcademyofDrX wrote:Fair enough. Looking back at some of the official product art, maybe I'm crazy, but I'm seeing it even then although to a lesser extent.

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You're right, it's there too. The angle is different, Hasbro knows to hide stuff that looks bad (sometimes). I guess it's an issue with the mold itself then.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby blackeyedprime » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:43 am

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At least the mismatched yellows don't look as horrendous as they did on sunstreaker. Probably pulls it off more with porsche alt over a mismatched lambo.


Hopefully there is a fix for the head. I liked the figure just didn't want to be paying the price for it and with the head it's dropped lower into my maybes.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby AcademyofDrX » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:09 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:At least the mismatched yellows don't look as horrendous as they did on sunstreaker. Probably pulls it off more with porsche alt over a mismatched lambo.


Hopefully there is a fix for the head. I liked the figure just didn't want to be paying the price for it and with the head it's dropped lower into my maybes.

Not really sure what kind of fix is possible. Try to smooth it over with paint, or print a new head. Especially if it's a mold issue, it's not the kind of thing a simple running change would address, right? Especially for a specialty release?

I probably won't bother making any adjustment, as things like this generally don't bother me. If it's going to be a problem, the best bet is probably cancelling the preorder, especially if we don't see any copies that look better.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 pm

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Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:40 pm

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?


I'm not sure exactly how it is divided, or how many parts there are. My initial thoughts were it was a simple left half/right half design, but there is no visible seam at the visor or the mouth, so it almost seems as if it would be 3 part head with a core containing the visor and mouth, and the right and left halves of his helmet fitting around the core.

If the helmet does in fact have a right and left half, then it looks like the screwed up the mold and one side is smaller than the other. Looking at the helmet, the silver parts on the left of the photo (right side of his head) are lower at the top of the head and slightly higher below his mouth. If it was a simple misalignment, then the silver parts on one side would both be higher or both be lower, not one higher while the other is lower.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Destron » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:02 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:29 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?


I'm not sure exactly how it is divided, or how many parts there are. My initial thoughts were it was a simple left half/right half design, but there is no visible seam at the visor or the mouth, so it almost seems as if it would be 3 part head with a core containing the visor and mouth, and the right and left halves of his helmet fitting around the core.

If the helmet does in fact have a right and left half, then it looks like the screwed up the mold and one side is smaller than the other. Looking at the helmet, the silver parts on the left of the photo (right side of his head) are lower at the top of the head and slightly higher below his mouth. If it was a simple misalignment, then the silver parts on one side would both be higher or both be lower, not one higher while the other is lower.


People are saying it's 1 piece so its the mold that is misaligned.
And its every single copy out now that is said to have this issue

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:21 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?


I'm not sure exactly how it is divided, or how many parts there are. My initial thoughts were it was a simple left half/right half design, but there is no visible seam at the visor or the mouth, so it almost seems as if it would be 3 part head with a core containing the visor and mouth, and the right and left halves of his helmet fitting around the core.

If the helmet does in fact have a right and left half, then it looks like the screwed up the mold and one side is smaller than the other. Looking at the helmet, the silver parts on the left of the photo (right side of his head) are lower at the top of the head and slightly higher below his mouth. If it was a simple misalignment, then the silver parts on one side would both be higher or both be lower, not one higher while the other is lower.


People are saying it's 1 piece so its the mold that is misaligned.
And its every single copy out now that is said to have this issue

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It seems it was a problem with the stock figure. but to a lesser degree, and nobody.noticed.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:59 pm

Overcracker wrote:
william-james88 wrote:People are saying it's 1 piece so its the mold that is misaligned.
And its every single copy out now that is said to have this issue

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It seems it was a problem with the stock figure. but to a lesser degree, and nobody.noticed.
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I think I might have figured it out. First, all left/right comments below are talking about which side of the photo, which will be the opposite of the figure's actual left and right side.

It might be misaligned, but I think that isn't the only problem. Looking at the 2 circled areas from Overcracker's photo, if the painted portion above the visor and the painted portion below the chin are each on a single piece for the left side and the right side that are molded together, there is a problem with the mold halves themselves. The painted part on the above the visor on the left side sits lower than the right side. The painted part below the mouth sits higher on the left side than the right side. That means the distance between the painted portions above the visor and below the mouth is less on the left side than on the right side. Which would mean the mold for the left side was made just slightly too small as compared tot he right, or vice versa.

The 2 different photos bear this out. For the stock photo, the portion above the visor is much closer aligned, but the part below the mouth is further off. From the in hand photos, it looks like they adjusted the alignment to fix the mouth, which is much closer, but it pulled the portion above the visor more out of alignment. That can only happen if the mold for one side is slightly smaller than the other.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:09 pm

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Overcracker wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?


I'm not sure exactly how it is divided, or how many parts there are. My initial thoughts were it was a simple left half/right half design, but there is no visible seam at the visor or the mouth, so it almost seems as if it would be 3 part head with a core containing the visor and mouth, and the right and left halves of his helmet fitting around the core.

If the helmet does in fact have a right and left half, then it looks like the screwed up the mold and one side is smaller than the other. Looking at the helmet, the silver parts on the left of the photo (right side of his head) are lower at the top of the head and slightly higher below his mouth. If it was a simple misalignment, then the silver parts on one side would both be higher or both be lower, not one higher while the other is lower.


People are saying it's 1 piece so its the mold that is misaligned.
And its every single copy out now that is said to have this issue

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It seems it was a problem with the stock figure. but to a lesser degree, and nobody.noticed.
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Yes, that was stated a few posts above
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:27 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?


I'm not sure exactly how it is divided, or how many parts there are. My initial thoughts were it was a simple left half/right half design, but there is no visible seam at the visor or the mouth, so it almost seems as if it would be 3 part head with a core containing the visor and mouth, and the right and left halves of his helmet fitting around the core.

If the helmet does in fact have a right and left half, then it looks like the screwed up the mold and one side is smaller than the other. Looking at the helmet, the silver parts on the left of the photo (right side of his head) are lower at the top of the head and slightly higher below his mouth. If it was a simple misalignment, then the silver parts on one side would both be higher or both be lower, not one higher while the other is lower.


People are saying it's 1 piece so its the mold that is misaligned.
And its every single copy out now that is said to have this issue

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I'm guessing half of the mold also has the face while the other half doesn't which is why the seam is only visible at the top and bottom. But like Jelze had said, it's strange that they chose to do the mold side to side rather front to back. There was always going to be a seam, the misalignment made it even worse. Hope they learned their lesson.

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Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:39 am

Emerje wrote:Amazon charged me for regular Tigatron. :DANCE: No shipping notice yet, but I'm glad they didn't cancel it since I used the wishlist trick.

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From Amazon.ca, Canadians are already receiving their Golden Disk Jackpot. I got mine as well so I can provide you with this pictures review.

The packaging come in a brown shipping box. The box itself is in full colors, but is very thin. The tray and tie-wraps binding the toys are all cardboard. Zero plastics. All that paper and cardboard except for the instructions will find themselves in the recycling bin.

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As stated in the previous news report, This version of Jackpot have a new headsculpt but factory gremlins has missaligned the head parts so it appear a bit wonky. On mine, only the top of the head is affected. Not a big deal in my opinion. I'll just say he got bonked.

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Jackpot is a repaint/retool of the Studio Series 86 Jazz. The colors are so different and with that still nice new head makes Jackpot worth owning even if you already have SS86 Jazz.

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Jackpot come with the same gun as SS86 Jazz, but Hasbro didn't forgot his partner, Sights. Sights is a straight repaint of Siege Pteraxadon. Here, it works perfectly.

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Let's not forget comparing the newer Kingdom Jackpot to the original Action Masters from G1!

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Contrary to the Action Masters original, this is the very first time Jackpot can transform! And redecoing SS86 Jazz was the right call because that's the perfect altmode. Matching yellows is always very hard to do and here, it's no exception. However, the only yellow that dont match are on the front of the car and it's just a tiny part. Depending on how you see things, this may look even better than just a plain uniform line. Transformation was also easy like the SS86 original and at no times I was afraid that something may break due to all that clear plastics. The car is a beauty.

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Overall, Golden Disk Jackpot is pretty awesome and it's amazing that it's no more expensive than a regular deluxe despite coming with a bonus Battlemaster. I highly recommend that you get yours while it's still in stock.

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Postby Till-all-R1 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:30 pm

At first the glamour shots on their site made this look really good, but all these in hand photos make it out to be less so and they couldn't even paint the yellow hubcap black to match. Way too many yellow variations in alt mode. Overall a neat looking figure but nothing I have to have. If I was into customizing TF's I definitely pop a different head onto it.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:54 pm

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Man, that head misalignment is inexcusable, that's basic quality control, it's the character's face, not some confusing shoulder piece, wrong tone paint or a precise tolerance on a joint. I always give some leeway when it comes QC because I know it's hard, but this is just sloppy. It's the figure's main feature. They should do a partial refund on those...
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:27 am

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I adore my Jackpot.
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-Kanrabat- wrote:I adore my Jackpot.
Now that the mold is not in "Generations", maybe we will have a Select Ricochet out of it? :-?
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #350 - Oops! All Optimus
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