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Sabrblade wrote:Plus, little known fact is that the Brawn, Huffer, Gears and Windcharger molds originally weren't first developed for Micro Change like Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, and Bumper were, but were instead originally developed by Knickerbocker Toys for a canceled line called Mysterians.

Yes! I saw a video Chris McFeely did on that a while back, that was pretty fascinating.

Only gripe for Pipes was I wish he had red eyes. Other than that, solid!

Definitely getting Bluestreak for the wrong reasons (Shattered Glass stand-in)

Sabrblade wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I often forget, when I see the original seven 1984 Mini Vehicles along side any of their 1986 counterparts, that there was quite a bit of change, they weren't straight up repaints. I just wonder, was all that new tooling originated by Hasbro, or were these more of the toys Takara had intended for use in Micro Change, but were just later repurposed for Transformers?

Pretty sure they were Hasbro-original tooling, like the Conehead wing molds. The general design team was the same I reckon, just shifted lines.

Plus, little known fact is that the Brawn, Huffer, Gears and Windcharger molds originally weren't first developed for Micro Change like Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, and Bumper were, but were instead originally developed by Knickerbocker Toys for a canceled line called Mysterians.

Yup, hence the big M on the front the of the vehicles. It was pretty cool to have Jim Shooter himself talk all about it to me when we were in a bar together once.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, little known fact is that the Brawn, Huffer, Gears and Windcharger molds originally weren't first developed for Micro Change like Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, and Bumper were, but were instead originally developed by Knickerbocker Toys for a canceled line called Mysterians.

Yes! I saw a video Chris McFeely did on that a while back, that was pretty fascinating.

Same here!

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Love Pipes. He looks great but he needs his red eyes ... though I'm torn about that though since most Autobots have their proper blue eyes, like this toy has. But Pipes oddly had red eyes to keep with his toy. Or did he have blue in some episodes and red in others? Ugh. Funny I remember him having the red eyes, though I see screenshots of him having both so it must be the toy that makes the red eyes more prominent to me.

I'm pretty sure he had Blue eyes the cartoon. small blue eyes rather than a full visor.

Red eyes in both episodes he appeared in. Which is understandable, makes them stand out more against his... well, blue.

o.supreme wrote:I often forget, when I see the original seven 1984 Mini Vehicles along side any of their 1986 counterparts, that there was quite a bit of change, they weren't straight up repaints. I just wonder, was all that new tooling originated by Hasbro, or were these more of the toys Takara had intended for use in Micro Change, but were just later repurposed for Transformers?

Pretty sure they were original tooling, like the Conehead wing molds, and not leftovers. The general design team was the same I reckon, just shifted lines.

Those look blue to me:

Overcracker wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Love Pipes. He looks great but he needs his red eyes ... though I'm torn about that though since most Autobots have their proper blue eyes, like this toy has. But Pipes oddly had red eyes to keep with his toy. Or did he have blue in some episodes and red in others? Ugh. Funny I remember him having the red eyes, though I see screenshots of him having both so it must be the toy that makes the red eyes more prominent to me.

I'm pretty sure he had Blue eyes the cartoon. small blue eyes rather than a full visor.

Red eyes in both episodes he appeared in. Which is understandable, makes them stand out more against his... well, blue.

o.supreme wrote:I often forget, when I see the original seven 1984 Mini Vehicles along side any of their 1986 counterparts, that there was quite a bit of change, they weren't straight up repaints. I just wonder, was all that new tooling originated by Hasbro, or were these more of the toys Takara had intended for use in Micro Change, but were just later repurposed for Transformers?

Pretty sure they were original tooling, like the Conehead wing molds, and not leftovers. The general design team was the same I reckon, just shifted lines.

Those look blue to me:

Both from TFWiki... THE source for Hasbro.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Both from TFWiki... THE source for Hasbro.

I don't blame em. If you had one place online that kept record of everything your company did for a brand for free, best use it.

ok, so I just popped in my DVD with FFODpart5 and you are BOTH right. When Pipes leads the Autoboots early on at Autobot HQ against Trypticon, he DOES have Blue eyes. Later when he is installing Metroplex's new Cog he has Red eyes...I'm checking Forever is a long time coming in a minute....

There's a rumored Puffer Pipes right? With the golden disk line or something?

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

Indeed.

o.supreme wrote:ok, so I just popped in my DVD with FFODpart5 and you are BOTH right. When Pipes leads the Autoboots early on at Autobot HQ against Trypticon, he DOES have Blue eyes. Later when he is installing Metroplex's new Cog he has Red eyes...I'm checking Forever is a long time coming in a minute....

Thanks.

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

So, how about the no eyes variant...

Lastly, just for grins, I checked the old Rhino DVD's also, because we know how they liked to "fix" things with that version, but nothing was different.... The inconsistencies in eye color were consistent across both releases. Pipes brief appearance in "Forever" had him with Red eyes throughout both his scenes.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

So, how about the no eyes variant

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

How inconsistent the entire show was.

I was really hoping we'd get to Friday with no more leaks, but clearly Chefatron wants his fifteen seconds in the spotlight.


To those mentioning that Pipes has wrist fillers: no he doesn't.
Also his name is Silverstreak, not Bluestreak. They're doing an irony thing by using the backup trademark.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how inconsistent AKOM was.

How inconsistent the entire show was.

I was really hoping we'd get to Friday with no more leaks, but clearly Chefatron wants his fifteen seconds in the spotlight.


To those mentioning that Pipes has wrist fillers: no he doesn't.
Also his name is Silverstreak, not Bluestreak. They're doing an irony thing by using the backup trademark.

I was just about to say that, isn't fxfranz just chefatron with a different username? Don't really like the guy's stuff, very big baby tantrum / angry reviewer energy in it.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:How inconsistent the entire show was.

True, but AKOM noticeably in the 3rd season had the most egregious errors due to the very short turn time and pressure they were under to animate the episodes. Besides, it's not like the comics didn't have plenty of inconsistencies either.

Finally I can do something with his stupid truck backpack by rotating it around. plus I'm a sucker for any Transformer with a mouth Plate. Sold.

william-james88 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Both from TFWiki... THE source for Hasbro.

I don't blame em. If you had one place online that kept record of everything your company did for a brand for free, best use it.

It's pretty funny to see a note in a TFWiki article that basically says "yeah this figure's color scheme is slightly inaccurate because Hasbro used the image at the top of this article as a reference." The Quintesson Baliff is one example

All that white on Bluestreak doesn't sit well with me, otherwise I'd be all over this. At least alt mode will look good.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:All that white on Bluestreak doesn't sit well with me, otherwise I'd be all over this. At least alt mode will look good.

Isn't white the proper color for those parts on the actual Diaclone Blue Datsun though?

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:All that white on Bluestreak doesn't sit well with me, otherwise I'd be all over this. At least alt mode will look good.

Isn't white the proper color for those parts on the actual Diaclone Blue Datsun though?

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Seriously? Ugh, I was looking at my Masterpiece Blue Bluestreak, who has silver instead of white. May as well just toss that in the trash now for this more accurate one...

Sowndwave76 wrote:I received notification a bit earlier this evening that the Ark is going to show up real early from Amazon;
THIS Thursday!!!!

^Just curious if you (or anyone else expecting something from Amazon currently) got a shipping notice? Mine still says Rodimus is expected to arrive TODAY by 10pm, but it has neither shipped, nor has my account been charged...I know Amazon has pulled this goofiness before, it is still no less frustrating, especially sometimes when we actually do get items early. I expect the inevitable delay notification any time now...

o.supreme wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I received notification a bit earlier this evening that the Ark is going to show up real early from Amazon;
THIS Thursday!!!!

^Just curious if you (or anyone else expecting something from Amazon currently) got a shipping notice? Mine still says Rodimus is expected to arrive TODAY by 10pm, but it has neither shipped, nor has my account been charged...I know Amazon has pulled this goofiness before, it is still no less frustrating, especially sometimes when we actually do get items early. I expect the inevitable delay notification any time now...

Yes and no? Yes for my Rodimus, he is on the was I got the shipping notice and is out for delivery.

For the Ark, I pre-ordered immediately when they first opened pre-orders and still haven't even received a shipping notice yet despite a few others being able to pre-order just last week and having at least received a shipping notice.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Seriously? Ugh, I was looking at my Masterpiece Blue Bluestreak, who has silver instead of white. May as well just toss that in the trash now for this more accurate one...

Do people really value Accuracy over Enjoyment

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Seriously? Ugh, I was looking at my Masterpiece Blue Bluestreak, who has silver instead of white. May as well just toss that in the trash now for this more accurate one...

Do people really value Accuracy over Enjoyment

Specially when they clearly didn't even remember what the guy actually looked like in the first place.