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william-james88 wrote:

Evil Eye wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:But the original Armada Optimus toy, which I said was Commander-sized in its Super Mode, also had a Voyager-sized cab robot.

Wasn't he deluxe class? I remember a version of him later sold as a deluxe.

That was "Bendy Prime" who was smaller and far more poseable than the original combining release. He was also IIRC a really really cool toy whose articulation is still impressive today. The combining Prime with the trailer was Voyager-to-Ultra sized in robot mode.

Thanks! I always forget that Bendy Prime is smaller.

Yeah, he was the basis for Nemesis Prime too. I really really REALLY wish he was a Voyager, if he was I'd buy him no questions asked. Armada Prime is actually my favourite Optimus Prime design (with RID 2001 a close second). As is, I'll just have to pray that Takara one still gets made.

Ok so we got lots of new product codes to share with you. This is from an order sheet that is use internally, either at Hasbro or distributors. It lists a lot of toys that were rumoured to come along with some new surprises.

The biggest confirmations all involve the Transformers Kingdom line with the titan class Ark, commander class Rodimus Prime and leader class T-Wrecks, which we see here will be a Target Exclusive. Target seems to be the main place for mainline exclusives, meaning toys that are part of the Generations main line but sold in only one store, like the Earthrise Seekers, Thrust and Runabout.

We do have one new listing though, a Transformers Kingdom 4 pack.

You can see the list below. It has been credited to a Transformers fan known as Pixelmaster.

Hmmm, a 4-pack. I'm going to assume they would be deluxe at the largest if they are all the same size. But, man I wouldn't mind a mixed size pack similar to the Titans Returns ones.

I'm curious about that 4 pack
I wonder if it would be G1, BW, or 2&2 and whether or not they'd be repacks or have changes like the 3 pack with impactor and mirage
It'd be a bummer for me if it's a 4 pack of core class hahaha

My money is on a core class four pack with 2+ seeker redecos, at minimum thundercracker and skywarp, and possibly all 4 being seekers. Target really likes snapping up exclusive seekers lately, and this wouldn't even be the first micro seeker 4 pack exclusive they've had, given cyberverse.

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be a bummer for me if it's a 4 pack of core class hahaha

I actually like what they've done with Vertabreak and Rattrap so far, so I wouldn't mind some more core class.

alekese wrote:My money is on a core class four pack with 2+ seeker redecos, at minimum thundercracker and skywarp, and possibly all 4 being seekers. Target really likes snapping up exclusive seekers lately, and this wouldn't even be the first micro seeker 4 pack exclusive they've had, given cyberverse.

Crap, I didn't think of the possibility of being all core class, but of figures we already have at larger classes. Or even worse, 1-2 core figures I do want with some mini-seekers I don't.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Hmmm, a 4-pack. I'm going to assume they would be deluxe at the largest if they are all the same size. But, man I wouldn't mind a mixed size pack similar to the Titans Returns ones.

Core class makes the most sense to me. Like that you can get all your redecos out of the way including the 2 main seekers, nemesis prime and either soundblaster or a megs redeco.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be a bummer for me if it's a 4 pack of core class hahaha

I actually like what they've done with Vertabreak and Rattrap so far, so I wouldn't mind some more core class.

You'll already be getting more core class with the upcoming netflix voyager packs. Speaking of which, someone saw the Rattrap that comes with Primal and he just has darker paint apps, not much more different than that.

In Australia, these are expected to come out in the following:

T-Wrecks - June
Rodimus - July
Ark - August

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be a bummer for me if it's a 4 pack of core class hahaha

I actually like what they've done with Vertabreak and Rattrap so far, so I wouldn't mind some more core class.

alekese wrote:My money is on a core class four pack with 2+ seeker redecos, at minimum thundercracker and skywarp, and possibly all 4 being seekers. Target really likes snapping up exclusive seekers lately, and this wouldn't even be the first micro seeker 4 pack exclusive they've had, given cyberverse.

Crap, I didn't think of the possibility of being all core class, but of figures we already have at larger classes. Or even worse, 1-2 core figures I do want with some mini-seekers I don't.

I'm loving my rattrap and vertebreak is pretty cool even though I don't have her, and I think the G1 core class are really cool I'm just not interested in spending the money on them when I have the larger versions. That's the main reason I'd be bummed about a core class 4 pack. Of course if the 4 pack is core class BW figures I'd be more interested

william-james88 wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be a bummer for me if it's a 4 pack of core class hahaha

I actually like what they've done with Vertabreak and Rattrap so far, so I wouldn't mind some more core class.

You'll already be getting more core class with the upcoming netflix voyager packs. Speaking of which, someone saw the Rattrap that comes with Primal and he just has darker paint apps, not much more different than that.

So the Netflix battlefield primal comes with rattrap? Oh no! Haha I already got rattrap and I've been holding off on primal in case I prefer the Netflix version. This is one of those times I'd like some leaks sooner than later so I know which primal to get

I have mixed feelings about the CC Rodimus Prime
Mostly because I just got SS86 Hot Rod haha, and if Rodimus Prime is cool enough I'll be getting him too and hurting my wallet. That and I can get rid of the PotP version

If he sucks then I save money but I don't have a good looking rodimus prime lol

alekese wrote:My money is on a core class four pack with 2+ seeker redecos, at minimum thundercracker and skywarp, and possibly all 4 being seekers. Target really likes snapping up exclusive seekers lately, and this wouldn't even be the first micro seeker 4 pack exclusive they've had, given cyberverse.

I would bet actual money that this is exactly what it'll be.

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I'm excited for most of these. CC Rodimus though...such a waste. Even if it comes with a TON of accessories. After Bigger bots like Jetfire and Skylynx (both of which are considered the be among the best of each line), you would think the trend would continue with larger Transformers with lots of special features...oh well. $80 saved towards something else I guess.

Also for those who may be thinking "you haven't even seen it yet".... I don't need to. Even if it was absolutely perfect in every way, RP is not a character I really desire to own in any way. I don't hate the character, it's just it has no place in my collection of larger bots.

The only thing on Commander RP that might sway me is if his trailer/accessories are Air-Lock compatible and useful for city building. Otherwise it is an easy pass for me, I just don't care enough about the character.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:The only thing on Commander RP that might sway me is if his trailer/accessories are Air-Lock compatible and useful for city building. Otherwise it is an easy pass for me, I just don't care enough about the character.

I have to admit, that would sway me as well, (if it had a base mode like Skylynx for instance) but as it seems none of the other Kingdom line is AIRLOCK compatible, that didn't cross my mind.

With any luck, these product codes mean we'll actually be seeing some pictures soon.

I don't think it's a waste, not without seeing it. I had thought that Leader-class could give us a decent Voyager-height Roddy with the camper shell battle station, but looking at ER Optimus and SIEGE Magnus that may have been a stretch. Commander-class would definitely let them do it, and they'll probably be giving him the same kind of premium treatment they gave Hot Rod for the SS86 figure. And I wouldn't count out the camper shell base being A.I.R.-Lock compatible - the other Kingdom figures aren't (except the ER Optimus reissue), but then beasts and jets and regular cars (or tanks) don't typically have base modes.

What I think is a waste is giving us the "cosmetically more G1 in altmode" retool of SIEGE Magnus instead of waiting for the next Commander opening to do a proper job of him. also giving us the random Ark Titan instead of a Metroplex reissue/do-over.

I'm trying to think how they would get Rodimus Prime to Commander Class. I'm guessing Rodimus is going to be Voyager sized and then his trailer would make up for it. But they would have to pack a lot into the trailer to make it worth it to me. Would they put enough into it to justify him being Commander Class instead of Leader Class? I need leaks. The suspense is killing me... Though I'm not super attached to Rodimus as a character really. I picked up Hot Rod because he looked like a really neat toy and I was able to trade Pokemon cards for him and Grimlock. Justifying another Roddy would be difficult for me, but if he's a good toy, maybe I can replace Hot Rod with him. It depends on the playability with this one for me.

Only way I can see CC rodimus being worth the price is if they change his triler to have a bike carrying function and include a few (probably just the one ) Junkions with him.

Hopefully the 4 pack is something that I'm not interested in so that it doesnt matter about its price or availability

I'd like CC RP to have a matrix that can open up like the old MP Optimus, but that alone wouldn't make him worth the price point.
I hope he's at least a tall voyager like Cyclonus
I've never really cared much for trailers other than completing the alt mode look so im hoping his trailer is really something special. Like a trailer that actually fits bots inside would be nice haha

If the 4 pack were deluxe fossilizers, I'd be all in, but since we only know of 3 molds at this time (all of which I'm sure will get selects repaints), I don't think it will likely happen.

My 1st post.

Here is my best guess for the new product codes for Studio 86 and Kingdom.

Studio 86
E0701: Deluxe Gnaw
E0702: Voyager Blitzwing or Blaster
E0703: Leader Slag with Daniel

Kingdom
F0363: Core Fossilizer
F0364: Deluxe Pipes or Tracks
F0365: Voyager Tigatron or Rhinox
F0366: Leader Galvatron
F0994: Core Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, and Optimus Prime 4 pack
F1153: Commander Rodimus Prime (as shown)
F1152: Titan Ark (as shown)

Razorbeast88 wrote:Like a trailer that actually fits bots inside would be nice haha

Fits bots inside, I like the sound of that.

Haha niceee