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News Credits: 18 · by **blackeyedprime** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:50 am

The knee panels improve only one side of it over the other with one of them not tabbing in as well. With out them it looks to have the lean on both sides though in Overcrakers pic it definitely looks better leaving the knee panels in the legs.

News Credits: 5 · by **Overcracker** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:57 am

Also, it's kind of interesting that on the Siege mold, the panels don't actually tab into the arms in truck mode. They are just there to cover the big gaping hole between the legs and make the trailer hitch accessible.

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:10 pm

Overcracker wrote:Also, it's kind of interesting that on the Siege mold, the panels don't actually tab into the arms in truck mode. They are just there to cover the big gaping hole between the legs and make the trailer hitch accessible.

And yet the Siege version didn't come with a trailer.

News Credits: 5 · by **Overcracker** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:25 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Also, it's kind of interesting that on the Siege mold, the panels don't actually tab into the arms in truck mode. They are just there to cover the big gaping hole between the legs and make the trailer hitch accessible.

And yet the Siege version didn't come with a trailer.

Indeed. Kind of a strange decision

News Credits: 5 · by **Overcracker** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:06 pm

BBTS has finally shipped my kingdom loot. I had Cheetor and Paleotrex in the Pile of loot waiting for something else to come in. Finally Primal and Cyclonus came in and all 4 are now finally on their way.

Hopefully Megs, and Grimlock come in soon.

Anybody got any shipping notice for Dinobot on Amazon yet?

News Credits: 12 · by **Razorbeast88** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:24 pm

So in G1 we had a lot of bots with metallic beast modes, but when is the Kingdom line going to give us a bot that has a furry vehicle mode?

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:42 pm

Razorbeast88 wrote:So in G1 we had a lot of bots with metallic beast modes, but when is the Kingdom line going to give us a bot that has a furry vehicle mode?

There are multiple ways that could be interpreted and I don't like any of them. :HEADHURTS:

by **SynchroBunny** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:46 pm

Because I'm an idiot that stays up waay too late and can't read, I posted in the wrong thread.

"Just cracked open my Warpath and Cyclonus that arrived earlier today and I already love both the figures.

Everything is nice and tight with no sagging in any of the joints. Only issue I have is the screw-pin that pivots and holds Cyclonus' cockpit section has sheared off.

It's not too much of an issue, given that in both modes his arms are tabbed in securely, but it does mean I can wiggle that entire assembly off of his torso now.

I'm not sure whether to keep him or try and get him exchanged for a new one"

Just for reference, it's the pin in his back that rotates the cockpit assembly round. The peg itself is actually quite tight and wouldn't fall out on its own even if the shoulders weren't tabbed in. So it's kindof a non-issue? Looking at the head of the pin that came off, it doesn't look like it was soldered properly to the rest of the pin.

I don't have the tools or the ability to replace the pinhead itself. As this is half a day later, I've thought it over and I'm content to keep the current figure, but I guess this may happen to others and there joint might not be as tight as mine is.

News Credits: 12 · by **Razorbeast88** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:50 pm

Evil Eye wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:So in G1 we had a lot of bots with metallic beast modes, but when is the Kingdom line going to give us a bot that has a furry vehicle mode?

There are multiple ways that could be interpreted and I don't like any of them.

Think of it like a transformers collaboration with dumb and dumber and we get a bot that transforms into the mutt cutts van
Or perhaps feathers or scale instead of fur lol

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:51 pm

SynchroBunny wrote:Because I'm an idiot that stays up waay too late and can't read, I posted in the wrong thread.

"Just cracked open my Warpath and Cyclonus that arrived earlier today and I already love both the figures.

Everything is nice and tight with no sagging in any of the joints. Only issue I have is the screw-pin that pivots and holds Cyclonus' cockpit section has sheared off.

It's not too much of an issue, given that in both modes his arms are tabbed in securely, but it does mean I can wiggle that entire assembly off of his torso now.

I'm not sure whether to keep him or try and get him exchanged for a new one"

It's ok bro, we all make mistakes. You posted in the wrong thread, my Mom and Dad had my sister.

News Credits: 5 · by **Nuclearxpotato** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:58 pm

Just so y'all know another 4chan """"leak"""" is being passed around. It's all fan-servicey stuff picked from TFW boards speculation: somehow the line is Armada, Transmetals, AND G1 with Armada at the majority.

I've seen the listings for the first three waves of Generations 2022. I'm not posting this on that fancy website, and don't really want it shared there. I don't want to join their clique. Believe. Don't believe. Not my problem.

>This is not the start of a new trilogy. This is a one year-ish line.
>Four waves. Room for five with repaints.
>Plans are for something new after this, so this is a wrap of the current formula before the new boss does his thing.
>Generations is the only "subtitle".
>Of the three waves I've seen listed: three more 84-85 Autobots: Deluxe Gears, Powerglide & Skids. Didn't see SS listings
>Transmetal Rattrap, Cheetor, Voyagers surfing Boss monkey. s1 Tarantulas and Terrorsaur finally.
>No BW Inferno in this listing. Maybe wave 4?
>Leader Transmetal 2 Dragon Megatron.
>Armada is the only UT we're getting ATM.
>Hot Shot, Red Alert, Voyager Armada Megatron.
>Both Commanders are Armada. Prime and Tidal Wave. NOT the Takara thing.
>Minicons Skyboom Shield, Star Saber and Requiem Blaster are Deluxes, like SS Arcee triplets. Other than repaints, these are the only Minicons.
>No Weaponizers or boney boys.
>Core is back. Nothing but G1. Seven more in these three waves, including Cracker and Skyboy. Shockingly, still no Bumblebee. These seem like the new mass market evergreens, they can recycle on new cards every few years.

A lot of stuff that doesn't make sense here, the standout being Voyager Armada Megatron... but a Commander Optimus Prime which implies a *tiny* Optimus or a spindly Megs. Transmetal 2 Megs, but Transmetal Primal.

As much as I'd love a lot of these figures, this is just someone's pipe dream (remember the "Prime War" leak with Micromaster playsets and Arcee?)

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:59 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:It's ok bro, we all make mistakes. You posted in the wrong thread, my Mom and Dad had my sister.

Wow, Chuck with a zinger!!!! Tbh from the vibe of your reviews, didn't ever see a comment like this coming from you!

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:03 pm

Nuclearxpotato wrote:Just so y'all know another 4chan """"leak"""" is being passed around. It's all fan-servicey stuff picked from TFW boards speculation: somehow the line is Armada, Transmetals, AND G1 with Armada at the majority.

I've seen the listings for the first three waves of Generations 2022. I'm not posting this on that fancy website, and don't really want it shared there. I don't want to join their clique. Believe. Don't believe. Not my problem.

>This is not the start of a new trilogy. This is a one year-ish line.
>Four waves. Room for five with repaints.
>Plans are for something new after this, so this is a wrap of the current formula before the new boss does his thing.
>Generations is the only "subtitle".
>Of the three waves I've seen listed: three more 84-85 Autobots: Deluxe Gears, Powerglide & Skids. Didn't see SS listings
>Transmetal Rattrap, Cheetor, Voyagers surfing Boss monkey. s1 Tarantulas and Terrorsaur finally.
>No BW Inferno in this listing. Maybe wave 4?
>Leader Transmetal 2 Dragon Megatron.
>Armada is the only UT we're getting ATM.
>Hot Shot, Red Alert, Voyager Armada Megatron.
>Both Commanders are Armada. Prime and Tidal Wave. NOT the Takara thing.
>Minicons Skyboom Shield, Star Saber and Requiem Blaster are Deluxes, like SS Arcee triplets. Other than repaints, these are the only Minicons.
>No Weaponizers or boney boys.
>Core is back. Nothing but G1. Seven more in these three waves, including Cracker and Skyboy. Shockingly, still no Bumblebee. These seem like the new mass market evergreens, they can recycle on new cards every few years.

A lot of stuff that doesn't make sense here, the standout being Voyager Armada Megatron... but a Commander Optimus Prime which implies a *tiny* Optimus or a spindly Megs. Transmetal 2 Megs, but Transmetal Primal.

As much as I'd love a lot of these figures, this is just someone's pipe dream (remember the "Prime War" leak with Micromaster playsets and Arcee?)

If this all is true, looks like '22 is a year-long break from TF's for me and I'll be adding to my drumkit!!

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:04 pm

Nuclearxpotato wrote:Just so y'all know another 4chan """"leak"""" is being passed around. It's all fan-servicey stuff picked from TFW boards speculation: somehow the line is Armada, Transmetals, AND G1 with Armada at the majority.

I've seen the listings for the first three waves of Generations 2022. I'm not posting this on that fancy website, and don't really want it shared there. I don't want to join their clique. Believe. Don't believe. Not my problem.

>This is not the start of a new trilogy. This is a one year-ish line.
>Four waves. Room for five with repaints.
>Plans are for something new after this, so this is a wrap of the current formula before the new boss does his thing.
>Generations is the only "subtitle".
>Of the three waves I've seen listed: three more 84-85 Autobots: Deluxe Gears, Powerglide & Skids. Didn't see SS listings
>Transmetal Rattrap, Cheetor, Voyagers surfing Boss monkey. s1 Tarantulas and Terrorsaur finally.
>No BW Inferno in this listing. Maybe wave 4?
>Leader Transmetal 2 Dragon Megatron.
>Armada is the only UT we're getting ATM.
>Hot Shot, Red Alert, Voyager Armada Megatron.
>Both Commanders are Armada. Prime and Tidal Wave. NOT the Takara thing.
>Minicons Skyboom Shield, Star Saber and Requiem Blaster are Deluxes, like SS Arcee triplets. Other than repaints, these are the only Minicons.
>No Weaponizers or boney boys.
>Core is back. Nothing but G1. Seven more in these three waves, including Cracker and Skyboy. Shockingly, still no Bumblebee. These seem like the new mass market evergreens, they can recycle on new cards every few years.

A lot of stuff that doesn't make sense here, the standout being Voyager Armada Megatron... but a Commander Optimus Prime which implies a *tiny* Optimus or a spindly Megs. Transmetal 2 Megs, but Transmetal Primal.

As much as I'd love a lot of these figures, this is just someone's pipe dream (remember the "Prime War" leak with Micromaster playsets and Arcee?)

From a source that shall remain nameless: We are due to get more multi-generation stuff in 2022 I believe, which could verify some of this as being accurate.
THAT SAID, this is likely conjecture with tidbits of confirmed information sprinkled in for credibility. But I wouldn't discount it out of hand yet, 4chan does occasionally have legit leaks (I would know, spending much too long on there myself!).

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:58 pm

Nuclearxpotato wrote:Just so y'all know another 4chan """"leak"""" is being passed around. It's all fan-servicey stuff picked from TFW boards speculation: somehow the line is Armada, Transmetals, AND G1 with Armada at the majority.

I've seen the listings for the first three waves of Generations 2022. I'm not posting this on that fancy website, and don't really want it shared there. I don't want to join their clique. Believe. Don't believe. Not my problem.

>This is not the start of a new trilogy. This is a one year-ish line.
>Four waves. Room for five with repaints.
>Plans are for something new after this, so this is a wrap of the current formula before the new boss does his thing.
>Generations is the only "subtitle".
>Of the three waves I've seen listed: three more 84-85 Autobots: Deluxe Gears, Powerglide & Skids. Didn't see SS listings
>Transmetal Rattrap, Cheetor, Voyagers surfing Boss monkey. s1 Tarantulas and Terrorsaur finally.
>No BW Inferno in this listing. Maybe wave 4?
>Leader Transmetal 2 Dragon Megatron.
>Armada is the only UT we're getting ATM.
>Hot Shot, Red Alert, Voyager Armada Megatron.
>Both Commanders are Armada. Prime and Tidal Wave. NOT the Takara thing.
>Minicons Skyboom Shield, Star Saber and Requiem Blaster are Deluxes, like SS Arcee triplets. Other than repaints, these are the only Minicons.
>No Weaponizers or boney boys.
>Core is back. Nothing but G1. Seven more in these three waves, including Cracker and Skyboy. Shockingly, still no Bumblebee. These seem like the new mass market evergreens, they can recycle on new cards every few years.

A lot of stuff that doesn't make sense here, the standout being Voyager Armada Megatron... but a Commander Optimus Prime which implies a *tiny* Optimus or a spindly Megs. Transmetal 2 Megs, but Transmetal Primal.

As much as I'd love a lot of these figures, this is just someone's pipe dream (remember the "Prime War" leak with Micromaster playsets and Arcee?)

I follow the leakers and this was said to be false.

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:20 pm

Overcracker wrote:Anybody got any shipping notice for Dinobot on Amazon yet?

I think we are a bit too early for Dinobot. Amazon currently says their release date is May 1st.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:47 pm

Nuclearxpotato wrote:A lot of stuff that doesn't make sense here, the standout being Voyager Armada Megatron... but a Commander Optimus Prime which implies a *tiny* Optimus or a spindly Megs.

What would be so confusing about an Armada Optimus being Commander class? The original Super-Base toy was Commander class-sized.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:13 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:A lot of stuff that doesn't make sense here, the standout being Voyager Armada Megatron... but a Commander Optimus Prime which implies a *tiny* Optimus or a spindly Megs.
What would be so confusing about an Armada Optimus being Commander class? The original Super-Base toy was Commander class-sized.

I think he was referring to the difference in size between commander and voyager. Maybe he thinks Megatron should be a leader? If there were to be a commander class Optimus, the cab robot would be voyager sized, right? So Megatron would have to be a leader class, if Hasbro decides to honor scale.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:25 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:A lot of stuff that doesn't make sense here, the standout being Voyager Armada Megatron... but a Commander Optimus Prime which implies a *tiny* Optimus or a spindly Megs.
What would be so confusing about an Armada Optimus being Commander class? The original Super-Base toy was Commander class-sized.
I think he was referring to the difference in size between commander and voyager. Maybe he thinks Megatron should be a leader? If there were to be a commander class Optimus, the cab robot would be voyager sized, right? So Megatron would have to be a leader class, if Hasbro decides to honor scale.

Armada Optimus is supposed to tower over Megatron in his Super Mode, though.

by **Jeddostotle7** » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:01 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:A lot of stuff that doesn't make sense here, the standout being Voyager Armada Megatron... but a Commander Optimus Prime which implies a *tiny* Optimus or a spindly Megs.
What would be so confusing about an Armada Optimus being Commander class? The original Super-Base toy was Commander class-sized.
I think he was referring to the difference in size between commander and voyager. Maybe he thinks Megatron should be a leader? If there were to be a commander class Optimus, the cab robot would be voyager sized, right? So Megatron would have to be a leader class, if Hasbro decides to honor scale.
Armada Optimus is supposed to tower over Megatron in his Super Mode, though.

I think they're talking more about the non-Super Mode. Specifically, were Megatron a Voyager and Optimus a Commander, to get both Megatron and Optimus' non-Super Mode in scale with each other, either Megatron would have to be a very spindly Voyager to be the right size compared to a reasonably-sized/-massed non-Super Optimus, or non-Super Optimus would have to be very small to be the right size compared to a reasonably-proportioned Megatron.

News Credits: 5 · by **Nuclearxpotato** » Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:00 am

Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:A lot of stuff that doesn't make sense here, the standout being Voyager Armada Megatron... but a Commander Optimus Prime which implies a *tiny* Optimus or a spindly Megs.
What would be so confusing about an Armada Optimus being Commander class? The original Super-Base toy was Commander class-sized.
I think he was referring to the difference in size between commander and voyager. Maybe he thinks Megatron should be a leader? If there were to be a commander class Optimus, the cab robot would be voyager sized, right? So Megatron would have to be a leader class, if Hasbro decides to honor scale.
Armada Optimus is supposed to tower over Megatron in his Super Mode, though.

I think they're talking more about the non-Super Mode. Specifically, were Megatron a Voyager and Optimus a Commander, to get both Megatron and Optimus' non-Super Mode in scale with each other, either Megatron would have to be a very spindly Voyager to be the right size compared to a reasonably-sized/-massed non-Super Optimus, or non-Super Optimus would have to be very small to be the right size compared to a reasonably-proportioned Megatron.

Yeah, sorry I wasn't specific but this is what I was trying to get at. I don't particularly care about scale too much (as long its vaguely correct), but if Megs were to be a normal Voyager, Prime would have to be around Deluxe-ish for the power dynamic to work.

Personally I think Armada Megatron should be larger than the standard G1 Megatron since he looks more armoured and built-up (especially with the shoulder treads, my favourite part

). If he were a Voyager, I'd feel a little letdown.
Sorry for the confusion, I was just trying to show this list and point out some red flags in case it was spread around.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:12 am

Nuclearxpotato wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:A lot of stuff that doesn't make sense here, the standout being Voyager Armada Megatron... but a Commander Optimus Prime which implies a *tiny* Optimus or a spindly Megs.
What would be so confusing about an Armada Optimus being Commander class? The original Super-Base toy was Commander class-sized.
I think he was referring to the difference in size between commander and voyager. Maybe he thinks Megatron should be a leader? If there were to be a commander class Optimus, the cab robot would be voyager sized, right? So Megatron would have to be a leader class, if Hasbro decides to honor scale.
Armada Optimus is supposed to tower over Megatron in his Super Mode, though.

I think they're talking more about the non-Super Mode. Specifically, were Megatron a Voyager and Optimus a Commander, to get both Megatron and Optimus' non-Super Mode in scale with each other, either Megatron would have to be a very spindly Voyager to be the right size compared to a reasonably-sized/-massed non-Super Optimus, or non-Super Optimus would have to be very small to be the right size compared to a reasonably-proportioned Megatron.

Yeah, sorry I wasn't specific but this is what I was trying to get at. I don't particularly care about scale too much (as long its vaguely correct), but if Megs were to be a normal Voyager, Prime would have to be around Deluxe-ish for the power dynamic to work.

Personally I think Armada Megatron should be larger than the standard G1 Megatron since he looks more armoured and built-up (especially with the shoulder treads, my favourite part ). If he were a Voyager, I'd feel a little letdown.
Sorry for the confusion, I was just trying to show this list and point out some red flags in case it was spread around.

But the original Armada Optimus toy, which I said was Commander-sized in its Super Mode, also had a Voyager-sized cab robot.

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:22 am

Sabrblade wrote:But the original Armada Optimus toy, which I said was Commander-sized in its Super Mode, also had a Voyager-sized cab robot.

Wasn't he deluxe class? I remember a version of him later sold as a deluxe.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:29 am

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:But the original Armada Optimus toy, which I said was Commander-sized in its Super Mode, also had a Voyager-sized cab robot.

Wasn't he deluxe class? I remember a version of him later sold as a deluxe.

That was "Bendy Prime" who was smaller and far more poseable than the original combining release. He was also IIRC a really really cool toy whose articulation is still impressive today. The combining Prime with the trailer was Voyager-to-Ultra sized in robot mode.

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:34 am

Evil Eye wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:But the original Armada Optimus toy, which I said was Commander-sized in its Super Mode, also had a Voyager-sized cab robot.

Wasn't he deluxe class? I remember a version of him later sold as a deluxe.

That was "Bendy Prime" who was smaller and far more poseable than the original combining release. He was also IIRC a really really cool toy whose articulation is still impressive today. The combining Prime with the trailer was Voyager-to-Ultra sized in robot mode.

Thanks! I always forget that Bendy Prime is smaller.