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War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:00 pm

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o.supreme wrote:I wonder if in addition to Roadrage the yellow Tracks could be a possibility? Even though I like the blue better, nods to Japanese releases are always nice. Back when I was collecting alternators. I'd get binaltechs of any variant Hasbro didn't release.

Can we name him Tiger Swipe since the yellow Sideswipe is called Tiger Tracks. ;)

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If we get a Diaclone Tracks, I hope its the black one as Loud Pedal.

Why not all 3?

Line space allotment. And eith Tracks it would be 4.

Four? He was only red, black, and blue in Diaclone, what's the fourth? The yellow we were talking about was Binaltech yellow. I'm positive that between Kingdom, Selects, Netflix, and other store exclusives they can find a way to fit Road Rage and Loud Pedal in.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:11 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Well, it'd be in Generation Selects which has a bit more space for the odd repaint, especially for Diaclone characters cause people seem to live those based on the Diaclone repaints selling fairly quickly, while G2 homages are still sitting in stock


Well to be fair, Diaclone repaints are different characters while a G2 Megs is still Megs. G2 Sandstorm was blink and you missed him. Also, both version of G2 megs were from a mold that most people don't care for.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Autobot N » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:23 pm

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Lore Keeper wrote:I'm honestly kind of baffled by the decision to re-release ER Prime in Kingdom. He has had two full waves in Earthrise already. There have been Primes clogging my local Walmart shelves for weeks. It's a really weird choice, especially considering there is a Core class Optimus coming in the same wave.


Hasbro has a mandate of having a "leader" Prime in every generations line. The toys sell, eventually, and now you'll have a cheaper option for parents who just want to buy an Optimus Prime for their kids and a more expensive option for birthday presents and the like. You'll let me know if there are still a ton of them on shelves come December 25th, there are usually 0 left.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:50 pm

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Autobot N wrote:And it's not like they could improve too much about ER Prime in a new version. Maybe make the chest sit more flush with the grill, but that's the only thing I could think of.


The only fault of ER Prime that irk me are the back panels that have the front wheels. They stick out like a sore thumbs when the bot is viewed from the front. The fault is even more apparent with the shiny Reprolabels.

BTW, that Optimus in Kingdom, is that the ER Leader sans trailer sold as a voyager? If yes, thats a better deal than the leader because that trailer countain barely nothing for that huge price difference.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:17 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, that Optimus in Kingdom, is that the ER Leader sans trailer sold as a voyager? If yes, thats a better deal than the leader because that trailer countain barely nothing for that huge price difference.
Nope, straight Leader Class rerelease in the same case as BW Megatron.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:22 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, that Optimus in Kingdom, is that the ER Leader sans trailer sold as a voyager? If yes, thats a better deal than the leader because that trailer countain barely nothing for that huge price difference.
Nope, straight Leader Class rerelease in the same case as BW Megatron.
Yeah, the 1 without the trailer is in the Netflix line, so that makes 1 more spot the same toy will take up, though I guess he can't be considered exactly the sane, since he won't have the trailer and his deco is a bit modified. But essentially it's the same figure, the Optimus figure itself wasn't changed structurally.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Flashwave » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:10 am

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Flashwave wrote:
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Emerje wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I wonder if in addition to Roadrage the yellow Tracks could be a possibility? Even though I like the blue better, nods to Japanese releases are always nice. Back when I was collecting alternators. I'd get binaltechs of any variant Hasbro didn't release.

Can we name him Tiger Swipe since the yellow Sideswipe is called Tiger Tracks. ;)

Emerje

If we get a Diaclone Tracks, I hope its the black one as Loud Pedal.

Why not all 3?

Line space allotment. And eith Tracks it would be 4.

Four? He was only red, black, and blue in Diaclone, what's the fourth? The yellow we were talking about was Binaltech yellow. I'm positive that between Kingdom, Selects, Netflix, and other store exclusives they can find a way to fit Road Rage and Loud Pedal in.

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4 uses of the mold. Which does not seem to be a bother to Hasbro anymore I guess...
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:28 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, that Optimus in Kingdom, is that the ER Leader sans trailer sold as a voyager? If yes, thats a better deal than the leader because that trailer countain barely nothing for that huge price difference.
Nope, straight Leader Class rerelease in the same case as BW Megatron.


That's a good idea. Because Optimus with trailer is a good seller. Plus I'm pretty sure that many places never received the ER version because of distribution shenanigans.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby just_aCloud » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:07 pm

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He had already mentioned seeing Rhinox earlier this year, but also just said that he had forgotten (somehow?) that Rhinox's guns store on the back in robot mode, and internally in beast mode. Pretty awesome IMHO. :MAXIMAL: :MAXIMAL: :MAXIMAL:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:05 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby just_aCloud » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:08 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Do we know when the next convention Hasbro's likely to reveal stuff at? I imagine it won't be until next year, but I still love getting hyped for future reveals

Ha funny you should ask that. My very first post on this forum was to create a thread asking that same question. The basic answer I got is "nobody knows" but there is a general schedule they seem to have been keeping to. Basically (the past couple of years) every four months a wave hits + another wave is officially revealed. So I would guess Dec - Jan is when we'll see official announcement for Kingdom Wave 2. I can share the link to the thread with you if you want.

And I would guess it's possible that they may not even do a major event? My thought would be that they might possibly do another Fan Friday (facebook live event). Isn't that where the announcements for SS86 happened a couple weeks ago?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:22 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Do we know when the next convention Hasbro's likely to reveal stuff at? I imagine it won't be until next year, but I still love getting hyped for future reveals

Considering everything, I am not expecting the next set of reveals to happen until Toy Fair in February in whatever form it takes
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:44 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Do we know when the next convention Hasbro's likely to reveal stuff at? I imagine it won't be until next year, but I still love getting hyped for future reveals

Ha funny you should ask that. My very first post on this forum was to create a thread asking that same question. The basic answer I got is "nobody knows" but there is a general schedule they seem to have been keeping to. Basically (the past couple of years) every four months a wave hits + another wave is officially revealed. So I would guess Dec - Jan is when we'll see official announcement for Kingdom Wave 2. I can share the link to the thread with you if you want.

And I would guess it's possible that they may not even do a major event? My thought would be that they might possibly do another Fan Friday (facebook live event). Isn't that where the announcements for SS86 happened a couple weeks ago?

Yeah, that's my thinking as well, considering Kingdom got revealed in the Puslecon presentations and SS86 got announced via a Fan First Friday they could really do another reveal whenever if the con schedule isn't lined up right for them (especially since Toy Fair got pushed back to May, right?).
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:04 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Do we know when the next convention Hasbro's likely to reveal stuff at? I imagine it won't be until next year, but I still love getting hyped for future reveals

Considering everything, I am not expecting the next set of reveals to happen until Toy Fair in February in whatever form it takes

Toy Fair got pushed back to May next year (and even that may not happen) so with no upcoming events they basically have to do a Pulse reveal.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:12 pm

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Emerje wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Do we know when the next convention Hasbro's likely to reveal stuff at? I imagine it won't be until next year, but I still love getting hyped for future reveals

Considering everything, I am not expecting the next set of reveals to happen until Toy Fair in February in whatever form it takes

Toy Fair got pushed back to May next year (and even that may not happen) so with no upcoming events they basically have to do a Pulse reveal.

Emerje
Well, have I got some rumor news for you guys. As it turns out, Australia is supposed to be unveiling something new in just two days from now, on November 5.

We don't know what it is. Could be Kingdom, could be Studio Series, could be anything. It's something that won't see release until April 2021. It is to be revealed on the Ozformers Facebook page.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:14 pm

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Emerje wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Do we know when the next convention Hasbro's likely to reveal stuff at? I imagine it won't be until next year, but I still love getting hyped for future reveals

Considering everything, I am not expecting the next set of reveals to happen until Toy Fair in February in whatever form it takes

Toy Fair got pushed back to May next year (and even that may not happen) so with no upcoming events they basically have to do a Pulse reveal.

Emerje
Well, have I got some rumor news for you guys. As it turns out, Australia is supposed to be unveiling something new in just two days from now, on November 5.

We don't know what it is. Could be Kingdom, could be Studio Series, could be anything. It's something that won't see release until April 2021. It is to be revealed on the Ozformers Facebook page.

We already know what it was, it was the Kingdom Ractonite and Arcee reveals. It was confirmed following the leak over the weekend
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:17 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Do we know when the next convention Hasbro's likely to reveal stuff at? I imagine it won't be until next year, but I still love getting hyped for future reveals

Considering everything, I am not expecting the next set of reveals to happen until Toy Fair in February in whatever form it takes

Toy Fair got pushed back to May next year (and even that may not happen) so with no upcoming events they basically have to do a Pulse reveal.

Emerje
Well, have I got some rumor news for you guys. As it turns out, Australia is supposed to be unveiling something new in just two days from now, on November 5.

We don't know what it is. Could be Kingdom, could be Studio Series, could be anything. It's something that won't see release until April 2021. It is to be revealed on the Ozformers Facebook page.

We already know what it was, it was the Kingdom Ractonite and Arcee reveals. It was confirmed following the leak over the weekend
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:20 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Do we know when the next convention Hasbro's likely to reveal stuff at? I imagine it won't be until next year, but I still love getting hyped for future reveals

Considering everything, I am not expecting the next set of reveals to happen until Toy Fair in February in whatever form it takes

Toy Fair got pushed back to May next year (and even that may not happen) so with no upcoming events they basically have to do a Pulse reveal.

Emerje
Well, have I got some rumor news for you guys. As it turns out, Australia is supposed to be unveiling something new in just two days from now, on November 5.

We don't know what it is. Could be Kingdom, could be Studio Series, could be anything. It's something that won't see release until April 2021. It is to be revealed on the Ozformers Facebook page.

We already know what it was, it was the Kingdom Ractonite and Arcee reveals. It was confirmed following the leak over the weekend
No no, this is something else. A Voyager. Decepticon. New mold. One that hasn't been seen in the listings known thus far. And it's not an exclusive.

Would be news to me that that is what is supposed to be
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby just_aCloud » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:21 pm

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Uh oh uh oh which of the forum veterans is the one whose right?? I'm sweating bullets, are we going to see pix of Ractonite in 2 days or pix of something else entirely ???
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:28 pm

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Bone Age wrote:Uh oh uh oh which of the forum veterans is the one whose right?? I'm sweating bullets, are we going to see pix of Ractonite in 2 days or pix of something else entirely ???


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby just_aCloud » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:29 pm

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Bone Age wrote:Uh oh uh oh which of the forum veterans is the one whose right?? I'm sweating bullets, are we going to see pix of Ractonite in 2 days or pix of something else entirely ???


Ooouuuuu looks like we have a civil war on our hands

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:35 pm

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Reissuing ER Optimus to fill the "must haveses big Optimus" thing is a dumb move. He was doomed to mediocrity by being basd off an undersize Optimus to start with and the constraints of being Leader-class rather than Commander-class, and between distribution density in his original release and the Netflix line selling the cab portion separately... yeah.

Maybe it's not too late to mass-badger Hasbro into reissuing Galaxy Upgrade Optimus instead? That would be somewhat more worthwhile.

Of course, the most intelligent move would have been to reissue PotP Optimal Optimus.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:50 pm

Sabrblade wrote:No no, this is something else. A Voyager. Decepticon. New mold. One that hasn't been seen in the listings known thus far. And it's not an exclusive.


If it wasn't due until April, I would guess it is the mysterious WFC-E28, but that seems way too late for an Earthrise release.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Hero Alpha » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:19 pm

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Autobot N wrote:And it's not like they could improve too much about ER Prime in a new version. Maybe make the chest sit more flush with the grill, but that's the only thing I could think of.


The only fault of ER Prime that irk me are the back panels that have the front wheels. They stick out like a sore thumbs when the bot is viewed from the front. The fault is even more apparent with the shiny Reprolabels.

BTW, that Optimus in Kingdom, is that the ER Leader sans trailer sold as a voyager? If yes, thats a better deal than the leader because that trailer countain barely nothing for that huge price difference.


I think the ER Leader Prime could be greatly updated by having the back wheels put on his hips. U can take the current one and fold them round the hips to see how good it could look. Of course they would have to take the truck parts of from that piece. Have them kinda like some of the movie Prime figures with the wheels there. Doing that would make it look very much like the Studio Ox version of Optimus. This, I think, would greatly improve the ER mold.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:55 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Do we know when the next convention Hasbro's likely to reveal stuff at? I imagine it won't be until next year, but I still love getting hyped for future reveals

Considering everything, I am not expecting the next set of reveals to happen until Toy Fair in February in whatever form it takes

Toy Fair got pushed back to May next year (and even that may not happen) so with no upcoming events they basically have to do a Pulse reveal.

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Well, have I got some rumor news for you guys. As it turns out, Australia is supposed to be unveiling something new in just two days from now, on November 5.

We don't know what it is. Could be Kingdom, could be Studio Series, could be anything. It's something that won't see release until April 2021. It is to be revealed on the Ozformers Facebook page.

We already know what it was, it was the Kingdom Ractonite and Arcee reveals. It was confirmed following the leak over the weekend
No no, this is something else. A Voyager. Decepticon. New mold. One that hasn't been seen in the listings known thus far. And it's not an exclusive.

Would be news to me that that is what is supposed to be

Makes me wonder if we're finally getting that elusive AOE Galvatron people have been begging for. Hard to believe it's anything from Kingdom if it isn't exclusive.

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