Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
TurboMMaster wrote:If this time Optimus is really going to die again, I just hope he will stay dead for good.
Well, his permanent death in TF: Prime Predacons Rising was handled brilliantly and beautifully. If we get another permanent death of that same variety, I wouldn't complain.Blast Cannon wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:If this time Optimus is really going to die again, I just hope he will stay dead for good.
You take that back! He's pretty much the only reason why I bother with the movie films anymore.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Well, his permanent death in TF: Prime Predacons Rising was handled brilliantly and beautifully. If we get another permanent death of that same variety, I wouldn't complain.Blast Cannon wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:If this time Optimus is really going to die again, I just hope he will stay dead for good.
You take that back! He's pretty much the only reason why I bother with the movie films anymore.
As far as just TF: Prime itself is concerned, the death was permanent. There has yet to be a resurrection created, so he's still currently dead for good at the moment, just as Animated Starscream ended up as.njb902 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, his permanent death in TF: Prime Predacons Rising was handled brilliantly and beautifully. If we get another permanent death of that same variety, I wouldn't complain.Blast Cannon wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:If this time Optimus is really going to die again, I just hope he will stay dead for good.
You take that back! He's pretty much the only reason why I bother with the movie films anymore.
"Permanent" that's funny.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:As far as just TF: Prime itself is concerned, the death was permanent. There has yet to be a resurrection created, so he's still currently dead for good at the moment, just as Animated Starscream ended up as.njb902 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, his permanent death in TF: Prime Predacons Rising was handled brilliantly and beautifully. If we get another permanent death of that same variety, I wouldn't complain.Blast Cannon wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:If this time Optimus is really going to die again, I just hope he will stay dead for good.
You take that back! He's pretty much the only reason why I bother with the movie films anymore.
"Permanent" that's funny.
Sabrblade wrote:...just as Animated Starscream ended up as.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
That series is over. His noble death was the closing scene of it.Blast Cannon wrote:I personally guarantee that by the end of the series he'll be back to save the day because the rest of the Autobots are too incompetent to cope without him.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That series is over. His noble death was the closing scene of it.Blast Cannon wrote:I personally guarantee that by the end of the series he'll be back to save the day because the rest of the Autobots are too incompetent to cope without him.
Sabrblade wrote:That series is over. His noble death was the closing scene of it.Blast Cannon wrote:I personally guarantee that by the end of the series he'll be back to save the day because the rest of the Autobots are too incompetent to cope without him.
Sabrblade wrote:That series is over. His noble death was the closing scene of it.Blast Cannon wrote:I personally guarantee that by the end of the series he'll be back to save the day because the rest of the Autobots are too incompetent to cope without him.
njb902 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That series is over. His noble death was the closing scene of it.Blast Cannon wrote:I personally guarantee that by the end of the series he'll be back to save the day because the rest of the Autobots are too incompetent to cope without him.
Did he really die or did he just transcend to another level of existence.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Well, technically Sam saved the day twice and once Megatron strike the final blow. So I don't know why they can't deal with Cons without him. Why you need Optimus at all when you have Mark Wahlberg? After all, it is Bayformers we are talking about...Blast Cannon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:As far as just TF: Prime itself is concerned, the death was permanent. There has yet to be a resurrection created, so he's still currently dead for good at the moment, just as Animated Starscream ended up as.njb902 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, his permanent death in TF: Prime Predacons Rising was handled brilliantly and beautifully. If we get another permanent death of that same variety, I wouldn't complain.Blast Cannon wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:If this time Optimus is really going to die again, I just hope he will stay dead for good.
You take that back! He's pretty much the only reason why I bother with the movie films anymore.
"Permanent" that's funny.
I personally guarantee that by the end of the series he'll be back to save the day because the rest of the Autobots are too incompetent to cope without him.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Guys, within the context of just Transformers: Prime, it was permanent. Any resurrection he may inevitably get in a follow up series would be outside of the Transformers: Prime series. You guys are all thinking within the context of the greater continuity, while I'm only speaking from the context of just the individual series that it occurred in itself.
It's no different from saying that Optimus Primal permanently died at the end of Beast Machines, even though two different follow up stories brought him back from the dead. Those stories are outside of the Beast Machines cartoon, so they aren't part of that series even though they are part of its greater continuity.
He became "one with the AllSpark", which Smokescreen remarked meant "That's what you say when someone kicks the..." ("bucket" is likely what he gonna finish with), and a distressed Ratchet spoke of Optimus about to lose his life. For a Cybertronain to "join the Allspark" is to leave the land of the living and enter the afterlife, essentially the Transformer equivalent of going into Heaven.njb902 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Guys, within the context of just Transformers: Prime, it was permanent. Any resurrection he may inevitably get in a follow up series would be outside of the Transformers: Prime series. You guys are all thinking within the context of the greater continuity, while I'm only speaking from the context of just the individual series that it occurred in itself.
It's no different from saying that Optimus Primal permanently died at the end of Beast Machines, even though two different follow up stories brought him back from the dead. Those stories are outside of the Beast Machines cartoon, so they aren't part of that series even though they are part of its greater continuity.
I just don't think he died.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:He became "one with the AllSpark", which Smokescreen remarked meant "That's what you say when someone kicks the..." ("bucket" is likely what he gonna finish with), and a distressed Ratchet spoke of Optimus about to lose his life. For a Cybertronain to "join the Allspark" is to leave the land of the living and enter the afterlife, essentially the Transformer equivalent of going into Heaven.njb902 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Guys, within the context of just Transformers: Prime, it was permanent. Any resurrection he may inevitably get in a follow up series would be outside of the Transformers: Prime series. You guys are all thinking within the context of the greater continuity, while I'm only speaking from the context of just the individual series that it occurred in itself.
It's no different from saying that Optimus Primal permanently died at the end of Beast Machines, even though two different follow up stories brought him back from the dead. Those stories are outside of the Beast Machines cartoon, so they aren't part of that series even though they are part of its greater continuity.
I just don't think he died.
Blast Cannon wrote:Optimus Prime isn't dead. He's just in storage. Accept it.
Because it has happened countless times in the past 30 years of TF fiction?Blast Cannon wrote:You're basing your opinions on a lot of assumptions.
I mean, how do we know whether sentient robots can actually die?
Cuz it's a mystical concept.Blast Cannon wrote:What if this 'Allspark' isn't just a very advanced version of Dropbox or Cloud, where robot personalities are automatically stored as a result of their bodies being shut down, just waiting to be re-downloaded?
Cool story, bro.Blast Cannon wrote:Optimus Prime isn't dead. He's just in storage. Accept it.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:He became "one with the AllSpark", which Smokescreen remarked meant "That's what you say when someone kicks the..." ("bucket" is likely what he gonna finish with), and a distressed Ratchet spoke of Optimus about to lose his life. For a Cybertronain to "join the Allspark" is to leave the land of the living and enter the afterlife, essentially the Transformer equivalent of going into Heaven.njb902 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Guys, within the context of just Transformers: Prime, it was permanent. Any resurrection he may inevitably get in a follow up series would be outside of the Transformers: Prime series. You guys are all thinking within the context of the greater continuity, while I'm only speaking from the context of just the individual series that it occurred in itself.
It's no different from saying that Optimus Primal permanently died at the end of Beast Machines, even though two different follow up stories brought him back from the dead. Those stories are outside of the Beast Machines cartoon, so they aren't part of that series even though they are part of its greater continuity.
I just don't think he died.
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