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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:53 pm
by Rtron
william-james88 wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:I've probably watched the trailer more times than I'll end up watching the film.

Kids didnt look like they actually got wet from Primal. Cheetor is way too big (maybe his toy will be like the huge beastmachines version :P). Arcees face is ass and her coloring odd choice. Primes face is only a slight bit less ass. Not Mirage transforming just so he wasnt facing backwards could have been genius if it squished what is some what likely to be annoying acting human inside but just seems odd (it looks like he killed the cop chasing him anyways yay for 'live action autobots')
As long as some of the toys are good i'm not really bothered how the film pans out in all fairness -though I am expecting it to ruin beastwars characters.

On a positive note, looks like Rhinox ate some beans....


Cheetor will be much bigger than he's usually depicted. He gets a voyager toy while most autobots are getting deluxe toys.

I don't think the film will ruin anything. The films havent ruined anything so far, the brand is as strong as ever, they just bring more attention to characters and create more fans, so I'm always here for that.

On a completly unrelated note, i'm really not over that Scourge design, it's so different than what I pictured and just looks so plain and generic. Reminds me of the destroyer from the first thor movie.


The generic air is hitting me a bit about all of the designs, I'm afraid.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:53 pm
by SpaceEagle
I'm pretty hyped to see this, seems like it'll be a fun adventure. I really dig how they all look in this trailer, so I don't have much gripes about the designs! I still wish 'Bee had a different face but the rest of him looks alright. :lol:

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:06 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Dat trailer...

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:19 pm
by Emerje
william-james88 wrote:People online are saying that's Scourge in the photo you posted, but that head looks the same as battletrap's and I thought Scourge was supposed to be more "spiky" with big exhaust pipes coming out of him.

In the next frames the same shot is taken from further back and you can see Battletrap standing off to the side with what looks like Prime laying on the ground.

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blackeyedprime wrote:I've probably watched the trailer more times than I'll end up watching the film.

Kids didnt look like they actually got wet from Primal. Cheetor is way too big (maybe his toy will be like the huge beastmachines version :P). Arcees face is ass and her coloring odd choice. Primes face is only a slight bit less ass. Not Mirage transforming just so he wasnt facing backwards could have been genius if it squished what is some what likely to be annoying acting human inside but just seems odd (it looks like he killed the cop chasing him anyways yay for 'live action autobots')
As long as some of the toys are good i'm not really bothered how the film pans out in all fairness -though I am expecting it to ruin beastwars characters.

On a positive note, looks like Rhinox ate some beans....

We had a pretty good idea of how big some of these guys would be when the listing for the figure range was leaked and Cheetor was listed as a Voyager.

Didn't you know those water barriers aren't fatal in movies? :lol:

Whirlkick wrote:Remember that the film doesn't release until June, this is just a teaser trailer so the CGI is unfinished.

The film was supposed to be released last June, filming completed in 2021, this is likely the final CG.

My real issue is that the Beast bots are in serious need of some color. You've got the Autobots who are all colorful, but then Primal is just a big black gorilla that turns into a big black bot with some mud smeared on him. The others in beast mode are so monotone and based on what we've seen of the Airrazor figures their bot colors probably wont be much different. That's how they often color Decepticons, the good guys should be more interesting to look at.

Emerje

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:23 pm
by blackeyedprime
Emerje wrote:We had a pretty good idea of how big some of these guys would be when the listing for the figure range was leaked and Cheetor was listed as a Voyager.


Only problem with that, is we have deluxe sized voyager figures :P

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:25 pm
by o.supreme
The Trailer looks awesome (As has every trailer for every other Live Action TF Film). Man they can make some amazing trailers. ;) .

Keep in mind that I really did like Bumblebee, but I still dont think I've fully recovered from the dumpster fire that was TLK. So call me skeptical still.

Also, while the Maximal cast has been known for a while, why do I feel like the decision of who to include was made in about 10 seconds...:


Looking at an old Mainframe pic of the S1 BW Maximal cast:


Optimus Primal Gorilla - "ok"
Rhinox/Rhino "ok"
Cheetor/Cheetah "ok"
Rattrap "pass - too small"
Dinobot "pass - too *Jurassic Park*"
Tigatron "pass, we already have a Cheetah"
Airrazor /Falcon & Female "oh definitely, we need her"

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:25 pm
by Stormshot_Prime
I feel nothing but hype for this movie, more than anything I felt for AoE and TLK. I’m immediately intrigued by the plot, and it looks like we’re finally getting some characterization for the other bots, not just Prime and Bee.

I truly love the designs here; the Maximals look great, and it makes sense that they’re full sized Cybertronians, not actually animal sized. That could work in another setting sure, but I think the smart choice was made here. I’m especially loving Arcee; she retains her core look as we saw her in the opening of Bumblebee, but she incorporates both G1 elements and her original Bayverse design. Hope they do the same with Wheeljack!

Ultimately, it’s not going to be an award winner, but I have faith it’ll follow in the vein of what made the Bumblebee movie attract an audience after the dumpster fire of TLK.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:32 pm
by Nemesis Primal
Various thoughts/observations in no particular order:
-Mirage and the brief from-behind look at Wheeljack are both disappointingly generic-looking, which is odd since Optimus, Bee, and Arcee are so similar to their Bee movie designs
-Car chase scene is always fun and it's cool to see Mirage do Mirage things, but didn't we just do a run from the cops scene in Bee?
-Prime has Dropkick's cannon now, instead of the ion blaster from Bee?
-Damn the Beasts are large, that explains some of the size classes for the Studio Series stuff
-Scourge's face appears to straight-up be the Terrorcon logo but with a goatee, which is cool, although I wonder if this scene is before he scans his alt mode or if his design isn't fully reflected in this trailer based off the lack of kibble
-Guess we've got generic soldier bots again, seeing those shapes falling down that hillside and all the bots charging at the end
-The Maximals basically just doing flips and transforming is very OG Beast Wars, that Cheetor handstand was fun
-Nightbird can fly? Or is that not Nightbird? EDIT: Whoever it is has at least one tire sticking off them, so it is probably Nightbird
-Not seeing this "Scourge's face looks like Battletrap's" thing, seeing as how Battletrap's got a big glowing visor face?
-Oh great, Prime's faceplate isn't his default again
Overall reaction: Mixed.

Also, with that casting stuff:
-Stratosphere being a real boy courtesy of the new movie was not something I was expecting, but I'm on board
-Maybe "Reek" is that "Crescent" skunk-bot we keep getting RotB toyline listings for? EDIT: "Reek" is apparently a human character, which....oh boy

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:32 pm
by william-james88
o.supreme wrote:Keep in mind that I really did like Bumblebee, but I still dont think I've fully recovered from the dumpster fire that was TLK. So call me skeptical still.


I am in the same boat.

Anyways, this quote from a fan over at TFW made me chuckle:

I wish Transformers was bigger than Sonic so we could kick up a stink about Wheeljack not being Wheeljack despite him looking accurate in Bumblebee.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:41 pm
by EvasionModeBumblebee
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Keep in mind that I really did like Bumblebee, but I still dont think I've fully recovered from the dumpster fire that was TLK. So call me skeptical still.


I am in the same boat.

I'm actually in the opposite boat on this one, as much of a mess as TLK was I enjoyed it a lot more than BB. Looks like this one will have more action to it, so that's good!

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:06 pm
by Emerje
Forgot to mention before how happy I am to see Primal with his double swords.

Emerje

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:11 pm
by Hokutron
I like the look of the Maximals, the Autobots look kinda eh, and Optimus just looks weird. Initially I looked closest at him since I saw his arm clip through his torso around 38 seconds in, but the more I stare the stranger the proportions get.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:45 pm
by bluecatcinema
After months of waiting, we finally get a trailer, and it proved to be well worth the wait.

The Maximals look great, and from what little was shown, it appears we'll be getting plenty of action in this one.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:48 pm
by Immortal Starscream
from some of the lines spoken by primal, I would say this definitely will have some similar story elements to netflix's kingdom season. I Like what I've seen of arcee and the beasties so far, but like many have echoed here already, the rest seem meh. The trailer at least imho has some great energy to it that makes me excited to see it.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:08 pm
by RodimusPrimeUkraine1
Me is like enough
The Airazor toy leak was disappointing, I liked the kid design better, so my hopes were lowering after the revelation. But I see some good stuff here.

Rattletrap still has the head of a giant robot anime character
Optimus Primal´s beast mode is a little off, but I can get over it. Thank God it´s not like the mask! Robot mode is...interesting...but lacks iconic details in favor of being big and buff for some reason.
Mirage is interesting, now I can see the reason for his name. Still looks like Jazz in both modes, and I will insist on calling the toys Jazz for this exact reason. Mirazz?
Arcee is almost there. I prefer the car alt mode but a motorcycle is livable as long as she still resembles G1. Pretty good robot mode, though I wish they dropped the red in favor of more barbie pink and cleaned the face a little (Though it is much better than the bumblebee movie Arcee face)
Is Cheetor is a little on the fat side, or is it just me? :lol:
Didn´t see Rattrap, maybe he was too small to notice, and not enough shots of Airazor.
Optimus still good, but I´m tired of the movie bumblebee-LET HIM DIE
Rhinox´es mouth cannon is hilarious
Hope I left no one out :???:
Over all this gives me a slightly higher opini-onion of the new movie, though it could be a little better.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:32 pm
by william-james88
Nemesis Primal wrote:-Not seeing this "Scourge's face looks like Battletrap's" thing, seeing as how Battletrap's got a big glowing visor face?
-Oh great, Prime's faceplate isn't his default again
Overall reaction: Mixed.

Also, with that casting stuff:
-Stratosphere being a real boy courtesy of the new movie was not something I was expecting, but I'm on board
-Maybe "Reek" is that "Crescent" skunk-bot we keep getting RotB toyline listings for? EDIT: "Reek" is apparently a human character, which....oh boy


That Battletrap face is just me, and I recomend you ignore it. I mean I still see it, but I'm just one guy. I guess it doesnt help that nothing there screamed Scourge to me so I thought it was Battletrap.

Old leaks mentioned that the bad guys fighitng with Scourge would be a legion of scorpion villains, do you think those might be the things we see in the trailer?

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:22 pm
by Overcracker
Looks pretty good. Loving the designs.

Odd that the one time we get a Porsche it's not Jazz, but I guess he died in 2007.

Primal looks interesting.

Wheeljack is uhm... different. Not sure what I think if a VW Bus.

Rhinox looks very cool.

Arcee is pretty good in Robot mode.


Cheetor is a bit too buff, unless whatever was running next to Bee was not Cheetor.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:44 pm
by ZeroWolf
Overcracker wrote:Looks pretty good. Loving the designs.

Odd that the one time we get a Porsche it's not Jazz, but I guess he died in 2007.

Primal looks interesting.

Wheeljack is uhm... different. Not sure what I think if a VW Bus.

Rhinox looks very cool.

Arcee is pretty good in Robot mode.


Cheetor is a bit too buff, unless whatever was running next to Bee was not Cheetor.

The Movie is set in the 90s so Jazz was available to use. Still the writers might not have cared to use him, putting the spotlight on someone else.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:54 pm
by Rodimus Prime
Eh.

I like the designs for the Maximals. Obviously the movie will try to sell their toys.
The Cons look like a mess as usual.
I'm used to Prime looking subpar by now, so whatever.
I really liked that shot of Cheetor running next to Bee.
It's visually enticing for sure.
I'm pretty sure the story and the acting will be subpar as well.
They definitely should have gotten Garry Chalk, unless he himself refused the role.
F**k Ron Perlman. Inferior voice actor, garbage human being.

I might catch this on streaming in I'm bored enough.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:59 pm
by RotorstormNZ
william-james88 wrote:Yes, february would make sense for a teaser

I'll take "comments that aged terribly" for $1000, Alex! :lol:

Sabrblade wrote:It's up now.

And it is GLORIOUS. High point for me has to be Mirage transforming as his guy casually steps out - already I've totally lost all inner GEEWUN reservations about him not being a Formula 1 car (the hologram sequence helped too). I feel like I did in the cinema in 2007, 2009 and 2018 - completely, utterly and unreservedly HYPED!

william-james88 wrote:Also, while I know they are being purposefully ambiguous about this film linking to previous ones I don't see any casual fans or simply fans of movies in general thinking this wasn't Bayverse, just another story within whatever the live action continuity has become.

I thought that didn't matter? ;)

Rtron wrote:Wonder who's "Reek"

For what it's worth, TFWiki says a human.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:58 pm
by Sabrblade
RotorstormNZ wrote:
Rtron wrote:Wonder who's "Reek"

For what it's worth, TFWiki says a human.
Speaking as a veteran TFWiki contributor, that edit shouldn't have been made. We don't yet know for certain who or what Reek is.

Though, there is word of there being a comic relief skunk Maximal, which the name "Reek" would fit perfectly, but we still don't know if that's true or not.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:25 pm
by Nemesis Primal
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Didn´t see Rattrap, maybe he was too small to notice
As far as we currently know (which is always subject to change, since today is the first we've heard of Stratosphere making an appearance), Rattrap is not in the film.

william-james88 wrote:That Battletrap face is just me, and I recomend you ignore it. I mean I still see it, but I'm just one guy. I guess it doesnt help that nothing there screamed Scourge to me so I thought it was Battletrap.
;)^

william-james88 wrote:Old leaks mentioned that the bad guys fighitng with Scourge would be a legion of scorpion villains, do you think those might be the things we see in the trailer?
Maybe? Best look at them I could see makes them almost look like Beast Wars protoforms put through a movie-design filter? They look very nondescript and have rather skeletal proportions.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:30 pm
by Sabrblade
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:but I´m tired of the movie bumblebee-LET HIM DIE
That's like telling Nintendo to kill off Mario.

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:26 pm
by Fires_Of_Inferno
I don't want to judge the movie by it's trailer, but after seeing Bumblebee, this trailer is making this movie feel like a step backwards towards michael bay territory. I get that people like the movie franchise, but personally the only good one out of all of that was Bumblebee, and I didn't think I would like Bumblebee.

I REALLY want to like Rise of The Beasts though, the designs look amazing, and the CGI looks awesome!

Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:47 pm
by -Kanrabat-
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I´m tired of the movie bumblebee-LET HIM DIE


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