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Posted: **Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:04 am**

Bartrim wrote:
g2grimmy64 wrote:wtf, soundwave? hes prolly jus gonna b a blu frenzy on ritalin...shoulda been dinobots vs devastator:(

I don't think so. Wasn't Frenzy originally going to be called Soundwave, then Soundbyte, then they settled on Frenzy? So I think the realise what a mistake it would be.

They originally wanted to have Soundwave as we know him in the film, but the plot didn't accommodate him in the long run. Blackout, with Scorponok (like Soundwave's cassettes) was the replacement made. Frenzy I think was always going to be in it as an infiltrator, who was originally with Soundwave.

Also, Soundwave won't just be a "blue Frenzy" as Soundwave is both larger and more intelligent; more about deception than actual inflitration.

Posted: **Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:25 am**

Starscream did escape, we see him in the credits, we never saw what happened to Barricade or Scorponok. Frenzy was cut in half by his own shuriken, so I think the ones put into the sea were Megatron, Brawl/Devastator, Blackout and probably Bonecrusher.

The more they avoid city robots like Metroplex and Trypticon the better, in my opinion.
Devastator sized robots are impressive enough, provided it's just 1 or 2 over two films.

I'd like to see a Triple-changer too, like Blitzwing, but with the realism they want with the transformations, it might not be possible.

Posted: **Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:07 am**

CJH wrote:
Bartrim wrote:
g2grimmy64 wrote:wtf, soundwave? hes prolly jus gonna b a blu frenzy on ritalin...shoulda been dinobots vs devastator:(

I don't think so. Wasn't Frenzy originally going to be called Soundwave, then Soundbyte, then they settled on Frenzy? So I think the realise what a mistake it would be.

They originally wanted to have Soundwave as we know him in the film, but the plot didn't accommodate him in the long run. Blackout, with Scorponok (like Soundwave's cassettes) was the replacement made. Frenzy I think was always going to be in it as an infiltrator, who was originally with Soundwave.

Also, Soundwave won't just be a "blue Frenzy" as Soundwave is both larger and more intelligent; more about deception than actual inflitration.

soundwave wuz only bigger than frenzy in teh cartoon cuz frenzy had 2 fit in his chest az a tape, which iz prolly not gonna b teh case, since frenzy wuz a boom box, which wld b a g00d alt mode 4 soundwave. also note th@ i said hed b on ritalin, by which i meant th@ hed b more calm and contained

Posted: **Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:17 pm**

I voted for Devastator.

Posted: **Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:42 pm**

CJH wrote:I'd like to see a Triple-changer too, like Blitzwing, but with the realism they want with the transformations, it might not be possible.

I don't think it would be that hard.

When they transform, about 80% of the exostructure gets sliced down into plates that either tuck inside or bend to accommodate the bot mode.

As a worst case scenario, the 2nd exostructure would show hints of the other exostructure.

Now, in the real wold, I believe ILM would strike if they had to sit there and figure out how to do it and make it look real.

Posted: **Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:49 pm**

g2grimmy64 wrote:soundwave wuz only bigger than frenzy in teh cartoon cuz frenzy had 2 fit in his chest az a tape, which iz prolly not gonna b teh case, since frenzy wuz a boom box, which wld b a g00d alt mode 4 soundwave. also note th@ i said hed b on ritalin, by which i meant th@ hed b more calm and contained

What?

edit: Sorry, I just can't stand having to read text typed out like this. For an actual answer: Soundwave won't be a boom box and I would think he'd be the size of the other large robots.

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:04 am**

They decided on putting Soundwave in the next sequel stating that they wanted to do him "correctly".

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:41 am**

The Paragon of Virtue wrote:
g2grimmy64 wrote:soundwave wuz only bigger than frenzy in teh cartoon cuz frenzy had 2 fit in his chest az a tape, which iz prolly not gonna b teh case, since frenzy wuz a boom box, which wld b a g00d alt mode 4 soundwave. also note th@ i said hed b on ritalin, by which i meant th@ hed b more calm and contained

What?

edit: Sorry, I just can't stand having to read text typed out like this. For an actual answer: Soundwave won't be a boom box and I would think he'd be the size of the other large robots.

Don't be sorry, it's not too much to ask for someone to actually write in english is it?

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:46 am**

I said Ult. Mag. because I despise Hot Rod and Soundwave will most likely be in the second film anyway.

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:36 pm**

Omnus wrote:When they transform, about 80% of the exostructure gets sliced down into plates that either tuck inside or bend to accommodate the bot mode.

As a worst case scenario, the 2nd exostructure would show hints of the other exostructure.

Now, in the real wold, I believe ILM would strike if they had to sit there and figure out how to do it and make it look real.

Yes, given they do break apart so much the technicality of the transformation might not be too hard. I was more considering the textures/weapons that might be correct for one alt mode but not the other.
And g2grimmy64, I wouldn't have thought they would make Soundwave so similar to something we've already seen. All of the robots have been correct to their cartoon size, shrinking Soundwave would be a first and most likely a huge offense to the fans.
I know the source isn't too good but IMDB has a quote from the producers they thought Soundwave would be an introduction to "mass shifting". Early days as to whether or not this means he's going to be the right size AND a boombox as well.

Tybre wrote:I said Ult. Mag. because I despise Hot Rod and Soundwave will most likely be in the second film anyway.

Ultra Magnus may be too similar to Optimus Prime at this point to introduce him, just a thought. I hope Hotrod isn't in it too!

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:15 pm**

Rodimus2006 wrote:They will have to be alot of new Transformers in part 2 cause almost everyone was destroyed or damaged beyond repair. At the end of the movie it showed a battlecarrier and it had Starscream broken remains on the deck and what remained of Megatron being hauled to the bottom of the trench cause it is the deepest part of the on the earth. So I dont know if Stascream is really destroyed or not but Megatron could make a comeback if he absorbs the all spark and re-animates into Galvatron. As for Barricade I do think he was some sort of Autobot Spy he and Frenzy both survived but it is not confirmed about Barricade yet. Here is my list of replacements for Transformers 2

Autobots
Jetfire
Skyfire
Mirage
Trailbreaker
Cosmos
Omega Supreme
The Protecto Bots
The Aerial Bots
The Techno Bots
The Dinobots
Powerglide
Arcee
Hoist
Grapple
Sunstreaker
Sideswipe
Blurr
Whellie
Elita-1
Fortress Maximumis
Autobot City
Metroplex
Springer
Hot Rod or Rodimus Prime
Wheeljack

Decepticons
Cyclonis
Scourge Cybertronian Animal Form
The Sweeps
Thunderblast
Shockblast
The Stunticons
The Constructicons
Astro Train
Blitzwing
Snowcat
Demolisher
Skywarp
Thundercraker
Buzzsaw
Ravage
Rumble
Lazerbeak
Shockwave
Reflector
The Combaticons
Trypticon

i want to know what transformers movie were you watching cause what you just said did not have any fact or truth to it what-so-ever. oh and that many transformers in the next sequel....ummm...i dont think so...that would just be major over kill.

Posted: **Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:18 am**

Really hard to choose which characters i most want to see in T2 but mainly the Dinobots, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Skywarp and Thundercracker. What say they throw in Death's Head too? :grin:

Posted: **Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:57 pm**

Let the constructicons rise - since they are the hottest selling TF on Ebay, Sam Witwicky's dad is working in a construction company. It will be a rock & let BAY & SPIELBERG think how they would bring the Dinobots back to counter the COnstructicons.

Posted: **Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:59 pm**

OMG, OMG, If Blurr was in the next movie.. man that would be awesome.

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