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Sabrblade wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Tranzilla wrote:I'd be in for a Burning Convoy into Primal Prime recolor.

Swap out Burning Convoy for Apelinq and you got something there.

That would be really great. Maybe BotCon exclusive.

Uh, sorry...HasCon

Lunatic Prime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Munkky wrote:I never had the original Optimal Optimus figure when I was a kid, so I'll jump on this new one as soon as it comes out.

I got that one 2 to 3 years ago. It looks cool in robot and beast mode but that's it.

Munkky wrote:I did wonder for a while if the Optimal Optimus form would have the black, grey and red colour scheme of the regular Optimus Primal, but it's good to see they've kept the orange and blue.

I guess the cockpit section will be bright orange because otherwise it wouldn't be accurate to the original one and look pretty off. And the rest of him will be black with a bit white and red like in the artwork.

The neat thing is that the "Trailer" is more akin to a Pretender Shell, meaning the smaller robot except for the cockpit is hidden away.

Uhhhhm...nope
Look at the third picture on the upper left side:

O, who cares about backsides?

Lunatic Prime wrote:But what are the opinions on his weapons and alt mode now?

I don't really care since he's going to be combined with the munky armor all the time. The 10th anniversary deluxe is going to be my pre-evolved form on the shelf.

I voted for Boss Monkey as I wanted a new figure of the Beast Wars character from the original first season. Having a Beast Wars figure that doesn't turn into the actual beast mode seems a bit... meh... to me.

But that's just my 2 cents. I'll wait for for tangible images.

I have so many different Primal figures that turn into gorillas (all of the Hasbro BW releases plus a tiny transforming Takara TM version, Deluxe and Mega BM versions, the anniversary Ultra remold and new deluxe mold, regular Robot Master, Year of the Monkey, and both MPs) so I'm fine with just one Primal that turns into something else.

I'm fine with the weapons being clubs instead of swords, it still feels like it suits him. The Transmetal version had clubs, too, after all.



Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Tranzilla wrote:I'd be in for a Burning Convoy into Primal Prime recolor.

Swap out Burning Convoy for Apelinq and you got something there.

That would be really great. Maybe BotCon exclusive.

i would say a primal prime repaint is very likely at some point maybe have the smaller optimus primal figure repainted as the first transmetal optimus primal

WreckerJack wrote:A very rainbow gorilla. Looks like something out of the 90's.

Pretty sure that's entirely the intent, buddy.

The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I also got Optimal within the last year, and he's been lot of fun. But I agree his munky and bot modes are the only forms that work well.

I was honestly hoping to get a good, original Optimus Primal representation with the PotP figure -- he has the bot mode down. I'm curious about his alt mode....I want to see the final product. But regardless, I'm absolutely buying him. >_<

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

You guys should start reading the IDW comics
Best stories AND story-telling of all Transformer media I've seen so far. And I've seen pretty much everything
In that newest issue of IDW's Optimus Prime comics Optimus Primal got teased

Emerje wrote:I have so many different Primal figures that turn into gorillas (all of the Hasbro BW releases plus a tiny transforming Takara TM version, Deluxe and Mega BM versions, the anniversary Ultra remold and new deluxe mold, regular Robot Master, Year of the Monkey, and both MPs) so I'm fine with just one Primal that turns into something else.

I'm fine with the weapons being clubs instead of swords, it still feels like it suits him. The Transmetal version had clubs, too, after all.



Emerje

Same here.
I always regret to not have been able to get botcon 2006 set, in order to have pre-earth Primal, so the Potp version wil take this role, it's in fact a good news for me.

Power of the Primes are starting to appear in Ireland. I bought MetalHawk and Cloudburst in Ken Black in Wexford for €7 each. They also had Skullgrin along with the Leader Class Optimus and Rodimus for €53.




Sadly my local SMYTHS in Waterford had nothing new, though it is a good sign that they are starting to appear.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

You guys should start reading the IDW comics
Best stories AND story-telling of all Transformer media I've seen so far. And I've seen pretty much everything
In that newest issue of IDW's Optimus Prime comics Optimus Primal got teased

O RLY

And then Scorponok is coming up in Lost Light -- what could this mean?

(I'm hoping Titan-class Headmaster Scorpy!)

bodrock wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

You guys should start reading the IDW comics
Best stories AND story-telling of all Transformer media I've seen so far. And I've seen pretty much everything
In that newest issue of IDW's Optimus Prime comics Optimus Primal got teased

O RLY

And then Scorponok is coming up in Lost Light -- what could this mean?

(I'm hoping Titan-class Headmaster Scorpy!)

Wasn't that 's plan anyway?

bodrock wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

You guys should start reading the IDW comics
Best stories AND story-telling of all Transformer media I've seen so far. And I've seen pretty much everything
In that newest issue of IDW's Optimus Prime comics Optimus Primal got teased

O RLY

And then Scorponok is coming up in Lost Light -- what could this mean?

(I'm hoping Titan-class Headmaster Scorpy!)

He says teased bit it's a shadow on one of the early pages, it's more of an easter egg then a tease as he didn't speak and wasn't seen again. Of course having checked the wiki it states they've been seen multiple times but having speaking roles is what's important, and he's had zip.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

bodrock wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:The more I see of this figure, the more excited I am for it! I noticed the art gives him Maximal insignias. I hope that makes it to the toy. His bio is confusing. It seems to explicitly place this as the original character, rather than someone who shares a universe with other toys in the line. I guess only time will tell how fiction is going to handle his introduction (and ascent to prime-hood).

I wouldn't bet on him making it into fiction, like galvatronus or emissary becoming the head of cerebros, who in turn becomes the head of fort max.

Even if he appears in the power of the Primes cartoon, don't expect any explanation of his name

You guys should start reading the IDW comics
Best stories AND story-telling of all Transformer media I've seen so far. And I've seen pretty much everything
In that newest issue of IDW's Optimus Prime comics Optimus Primal got teased

O RLY

And then Scorponok is coming up in Lost Light -- what could this mean?

(I'm hoping Titan-class Headmaster Scorpy!)

Wasn't that 's plan anyway?

That's what we're all betting on -- but until they say 'YESSSSS', I'm going to try and remain patient.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:O, who cares about backsides?

Sir Mix-a-Lot certainly does!

As for the toy bio, it certainly does seem to be a generic retelling of the original Beast Wars story for Optimus Primal. I don't think we're going to get anything more about him ascending to the position of "Prime" of all Cybertronians, though. The first two parts of the Prime Wars Trilogy had almost zero plot. Everything revolved around the gimmick in terms of story telling on the packages. It was rather rudimentary with Combiner Wars having fleeting references to gestalt modes, where applicable. Titans Return made it all about the various powers that Titan Masters granted the Transformers they combined with. With Power of the Primes, it's now about the combination of an individual's personality with a specific Prime's powers, and even then, we only really get that explained in randomly packed trading cards. The bios on the boxes are little more than "How will (insert name here) use the Power of the Primes?" Alas, Hasbro's invitation to "Choose the Next Prime" was likely more a publicity stunt than any true urge to add to the Transformers narrative. We voted on the toy we wanted most...and that's pretty much it. Hasbro expects us (collector and kid alike) to fill in the blanks ourselves with imagination.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:O, who cares about backsides?

Sir Mix-a-Lot certainly does!

As for the toy bio, it certainly does seem to be a generic retelling of the original Beast Wars story for Optimus Primal. I don't think we're going to get anything more about him ascending to the position of "Prime" of all Cybertronians, though. The first two parts of the Prime Wars Trilogy had almost zero plot. Everything revolved around the gimmick in terms of story telling on the packages. It was rather rudimentary with Combiner Wars having fleeting references to gestalt modes, where applicable. Titans Return made it all about the various powers that Titan Masters granted the Transformers they combined with. With Power of the Primes, it's now about the combination of an individual's personality with a specific Prime's powers, and even then, we only really get that explained in randomly packed trading cards. The bios on the boxes are little more than "How will (insert name here) use the Power of the Primes?" Alas, Hasbro's invitation to "Choose the Next Prime" was likely more a publicity stunt than any true urge to add to the Transformers narrative. We voted on the toy we wanted most...and that's pretty much it. Hasbro expects us (collector and kid alike) to fill in the blanks ourselves with imagination.

Actually I think Hasbro are relying on IDW and/or Machima to tell the story but the stories will probably end up looking nothing alike.

And that's even if IDW will do anything with these Pretenders and Prime Masters. They're doing stuff with the Thirteen, yes, but not really anything with the POTP toy characters.

As for Machinima, well, expect the bare minimum of anything in the toyline from them, really, as they gave us Combiners who didn't show off the execution of their combination gimmick, and a single Titan Master who never used his head gimmick in conjunction with his assigned Titan.

Uhm... I don't see London, I don't see France...

Sabrblade wrote:And that's even if IDW will do anything with these Pretenders and Prime Masters. They're doing stuff with the Thirteen, yes, but not really anything with the POTP toy characters.

I guess it will end up like Titans Return's Sentinel Prime and Sovereign. As far as my memory goes they could have just let that part out and nothing would have changed or would be missing for the ongoing story. Or did I forget something essential?
And I dont't count the Titans as representing the gimmick of the TR line

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Uhm... I don't see London, I don't see France...

He's missing his crotch
How did somebody manage to mess that up?

Normally we get the alternative head spoiled in instructions but this is new to me, that's quite a blunder.

@Lunatic Prime so yeah don't expect optimal Optimus with IDW or Machima
(Though I wouldn't another beast wars mini series but given the framework currently it won't be a spin off from the main series)