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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:01 am
by Rtron
Voted!

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:38 pm
by ZeroWolf
Voted

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:13 am
by EvasionModeBumblebee
We have a winner!

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DOTM Warpath kept his top spot from the rankings and took 57% of the finale vote, becoming this year's Studio Series September champion! For everyone who voted for him, what would you like to see if he was to get a Studio Series figure? Voyager or Leader Class? Would he include a ROTF claw accessory that could work with DOTM Megatron to recreate his game appearance?

Here's a little bit of a summary of this year's tournament:

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A big thank you to everyone who voted and participated this year! You all make this a fun event to run!

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:07 am
by EvasionModeBumblebee
With the tournament over, I'm back to customs! First up is Bonecrusher:

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:40 am
by TF-fan kev777
Wow, he looks great! I really like the detailing you used to make the grill and air intake areas of the hood look dirty.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:19 pm
by Overcracker
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:We have a winner!

Tournament Winner 2023.jpg


DOTM Warpath kept his top spot from the rankings and took 57% of the finale vote, becoming this year's Studio Series September champion! For everyone who voted for him, what would you like to see if he was to get a Studio Series figure? Voyager or Leader Class? Would he include a ROTF claw accessory that could work with DOTM Megatron to recreate his game appearance?



A big thank you to everyone who voted and participated this year! You all make this a fun event to run!


I'm still shocked Longarm didn't make it out of the first round. I love that toy, and would love an update.
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Also the cheeky reference on him is excellent.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:40 pm
by Rtron
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:With the tournament over, I'm back to customs! First up is Bonecrusher:

Bonecrusher bot 1.jpg

Bonecrusher bot pose.jpg

Bonecrusher alt L front.jpg

Bonecrusher alt R.jpg


He looks great! Bonecrusher is one of my favorite Bayverse characters.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:47 am
by EvasionModeBumblebee
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Wow, he looks great! I really like the detailing you used to make the grill and air intake areas of the hood look dirty.

Thanks! I actually got the idea for that from the MPM!

Overcracker wrote:[
I'm still shocked Longarm didn't make it out of the first round. I love that toy, and would love an update.

Also the cheeky reference on him is excellent.

An update would be really cool! I don’t think I knew about that reference, I have the screen battles version that says “Mike’s Towing” instead!

Rtron wrote:
He looks great! Bonecrusher is one of my favorite Bayverse characters.

Thank you! Bonecrusher is a great design, I ended up appreciating it even more after looking through all the reference images!

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:49 am
by Sabrblade
"Orson's Towing" is a dual reference to two people. First is Aaron Archer, who used the name "Orson" as his online screenname back when he hosted Orson's World. And second is the person whom Archer's "Orson" alias was named after, legendary Hollywood film actor Orson Welles, who we know as the voice of Unicron in TFTM.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:52 pm
by SGMLordMirage
Got lucky and found wave 8 Core Class at a local Walmart in Springfield,Mo.

SGM

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:08 pm
by TulioDude
I had a hard time chossing between Warpath and Springer.
Great work on the paint with Bonecrusher, EvasioModeBumblebee!I like how clean detail turned out.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
First-Aid wrote:WIth respect, I disagree. It won't matter whether or not they are movie bots. The names are G1 and that's really all that matters. We'll see if I'm correct. If not, well...


Hound is not really hound. Starscream could have an entire different name and we wouldn't know that's supposed to be Starscream. Wheeljack in ROTB could be named Skids for all it's worth. ROTB Scourge have more to do with RiD than G1. All the Megatrons could have been their own original characters with their own name. Only in the intro of the Bee movie that the names match the bots. In all other instances, appart Optimus Prime, all the others could have been named something else and we would have never noticed. Even Bumblebee.


I disagree with this view, that the character is false if the name usage doesn't match the G1 version;
Hasbro has to reuse names because of trademark stuff,why not do something cool with it?
The reuse of names gave us these character below
-Beast Wars Inferno
-2001 Rid Scourge
-Armada Wheeljack
-Movie Barricade
-Animated Prowl

And sometimes we get someone like Rise of The Beasts Scourge, that is mix of various aspects of the previous versions.
The reuse of names open the door to more possibilites to be explored.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:17 pm
by -Kanrabat-
TulioDude wrote:I had a hard time chossing between Warpath and Springer.
Great work on the paint with Bonecrusher, EvasioModeBumblebee!I like how clean detail turned out.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
First-Aid wrote:WIth respect, I disagree. It won't matter whether or not they are movie bots. The names are G1 and that's really all that matters. We'll see if I'm correct. If not, well...


Hound is not really hound. Starscream could have an entire different name and we wouldn't know that's supposed to be Starscream. Wheeljack in ROTB could be named Skids for all it's worth. ROTB Scourge have more to do with RiD than G1. All the Megatrons could have been their own original characters with their own name. Only in the intro of the Bee movie that the names match the bots. In all other instances, appart Optimus Prime, all the others could have been named something else and we would have never noticed. Even Bumblebee.


I disagree with this view, that the character is false if the name usage doesn't match the G1 version;
Hasbro has to reuse names because of trademark stuff,why not do something cool with it?
The reuse of names gave us these character below
-Beast Wars Inferno
-2001 Rid Scourge
-Armada Wheeljack
-Movie Barricade
-Animated Prowl

And sometimes we get someone like Rise of The Beasts Scourge, that is mix of various aspects of the previous versions.
The reuse of names open the door to more possibilites to be explored.



That still proves my point.
All these name-swaps could be attributed to anyone.

Bumblebee in the Bayverse could have been named Waspinator and it could have worked.

:-?

Now I want a green and yellow repaint of a BayBee toy into Waspinator. 8-)

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:26 pm
by Rtron
TulioDude wrote:I had a hard time chossing between Warpath and Springer.
Great work on the paint with Bonecrusher, EvasioModeBumblebee!I like how clean detail turned out.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
First-Aid wrote:WIth respect, I disagree. It won't matter whether or not they are movie bots. The names are G1 and that's really all that matters. We'll see if I'm correct. If not, well...


Hound is not really hound. Starscream could have an entire different name and we wouldn't know that's supposed to be Starscream. Wheeljack in ROTB could be named Skids for all it's worth. ROTB Scourge have more to do with RiD than G1. All the Megatrons could have been their own original characters with their own name. Only in the intro of the Bee movie that the names match the bots. In all other instances, appart Optimus Prime, all the others could have been named something else and we would have never noticed. Even Bumblebee.


I disagree with this view, that the character is false if the name usage doesn't match the G1 version;
Hasbro has to reuse names because of trademark stuff,why not do something cool with it?
The reuse of names gave us these character below
-Beast Wars Inferno
-2001 Rid Scourge
-Armada Wheeljack
-Movie Barricade
-Animated Prowl

And sometimes we get someone like Rise of The Beasts Scourge, that is mix of various aspects of the previous versions.
The reuse of names open the door to more possibilites to be explored.


I agree, it's cool when they're flexible with the characters that carry a name.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 4:12 am
by ZeroWolf
Rtron wrote:
TulioDude wrote:I had a hard time chossing between Warpath and Springer.
Great work on the paint with Bonecrusher, EvasioModeBumblebee!I like how clean detail turned out.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
First-Aid wrote:WIth respect, I disagree. It won't matter whether or not they are movie bots. The names are G1 and that's really all that matters. We'll see if I'm correct. If not, well...


Hound is not really hound. Starscream could have an entire different name and we wouldn't know that's supposed to be Starscream. Wheeljack in ROTB could be named Skids for all it's worth. ROTB Scourge have more to do with RiD than G1. All the Megatrons could have been their own original characters with their own name. Only in the intro of the Bee movie that the names match the bots. In all other instances, appart Optimus Prime, all the others could have been named something else and we would have never noticed. Even Bumblebee.


I disagree with this view, that the character is false if the name usage doesn't match the G1 version;
Hasbro has to reuse names because of trademark stuff,why not do something cool with it?
The reuse of names gave us these character below
-Beast Wars Inferno
-2001 Rid Scourge
-Armada Wheeljack
-Movie Barricade
-Animated Prowl

And sometimes we get someone like Rise of The Beasts Scourge, that is mix of various aspects of the previous versions.
The reuse of names open the door to more possibilites to be explored.


I agree, it's cool when they're flexible with the characters that carry a name.

Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 4:43 am
by -Kanrabat-
ZeroWolf wrote:Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names


And that's why people should stop making a big deal out of this.
They started doing it right after G1 and it's been over 3 decades already since G1's finale.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:59 am
by ZeroWolf
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names


And that's why people should stop making a big deal out of this.
They started doing it right after G1 and it's been over 3 decades already since G1's finale.

Agreed, wasn't there an instance of it in G2?

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:53 am
by -Kanrabat-
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names


And that's why people should stop making a big deal out of this.
They started doing it right after G1 and it's been over 3 decades already since G1's finale.

Agreed, wasn't there an instance of it in G2?


On top of my mind, I don't think so.
So, it would be after G2 that names began to jump around. Unless it would count for Lazer Optimus and Tank Megatron, who had different shapes.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:48 am
by Sabrblade
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names


And that's why people should stop making a big deal out of this.
They started doing it right after G1 and it's been over 3 decades already since G1's finale.

Agreed, wasn't there an instance of it in G2?


On top of my mind, I don't think so.
So, it would be after G2 that names began to jump around. Unless it would count for Lazer Optimus and Tank Megatron, who had different shapes.
There were lots of instances in G2. The name "Afterburner", for example, was originally an Autobot Technobot in G1, but in G2 was instead the name of a Decepticon Skyscorcher.

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And then there's probably the most famous name-reuse in G2, "Sureshot". In G1, the name belonged to an Autobot Targetmaster. In G2, he was Optimus Prime in all but name.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:17 am
by Emerje
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names


And that's why people should stop making a big deal out of this.
They started doing it right after G1 and it's been over 3 decades already since G1's finale.

Agreed, wasn't there an instance of it in G2?


On top of my mind, I don't think so.
So, it would be after G2 that names began to jump around. Unless it would count for Lazer Optimus and Tank Megatron, who had different shapes.

There was a few name reuses for new characters in G2. G2 Ransack is not the same character as the G1 Deluxe Insecticon. G2 Smokescreen is unrelated to the G1 Autobot car and likewise Dreadwing isn't related to G1 Dreadwind and Darkwing. G2 Roadblock is unrelated to the G1 Pretender. And European G2 Sureshot (Hero Optimus Prime) is unrelated to the G1 Targetmaster.

Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

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(Edit)Oops, missed Afterburner.

Emerje

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:54 am
by EvasionModeBumblebee
TulioDude wrote:I had a hard time chossing between Warpath and Springer.
Great work on the paint with Bonecrusher, EvasioModeBumblebee!I like how clean detail turned out.


Thank you very much! I have a really fun project coming up next!

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:50 am
by -Kanrabat-
Emerje wrote:
Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

Emerje


So Lazer Prime was always meant to be RID Scourge from the beginning. Interesting.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:44 am
by Emerje
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

Emerje


So Lazer Prime was always meant to be RID Scourge from the beginning. Interesting.

Wait, what? How did you get that from what I said? His '95 counterpart is the Megatron and Starscream pack from the same year, I even posted a picture of it.

Emerje

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:32 am
by -Kanrabat-
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

Emerje


So Lazer Prime was always meant to be RID Scourge from the beginning. Interesting.

Wait, what? How did you get that from what I said? His '95 counterpart is the Megatron and Starscream pack from the same year, I even posted a picture of it.

Emerje


Oh. I thought you meant G2 Optimus Prime who was a repaint of the G1 original with a black trailer and extra bits.
It would have been interesting.

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:38 am
by Sabrblade
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

Emerje


So Lazer Prime was always meant to be RID Scourge from the beginning. Interesting.

Wait, what? How did you get that from what I said? His '95 counterpart is the Megatron and Starscream pack from the same year, I even posted a picture of it.

Emerje


Oh. I thought you meant G2 Optimus Prime who was a repaint of the G1 original with a black trailer and extra bits.
It would have been interesting.
Keyword in his post: "Laser"

Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:49 am
by -Kanrabat-
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

Emerje


So Lazer Prime was always meant to be RID Scourge from the beginning. Interesting.

Wait, what? How did you get that from what I said? His '95 counterpart is the Megatron and Starscream pack from the same year, I even posted a picture of it.

Emerje


Oh. I thought you meant G2 Optimus Prime who was a repaint of the G1 original with a black trailer and extra bits.
It would have been interesting.
Keyword in his post: "Laser"


You misunderstood.
I expected G2 Prime VS Laser Prime.

The real keyword would be 1995.