First-Aid wrote:Rtron wrote:First-Aid wrote:Rtron wrote:First-Aid wrote:Expecting Warpaths, Springer, and Shockwave to make it through because of the Geewun vote. We'll see how right I am.
I'm voting those not because G1, but because of the roles they fulfill. Warpath never had a movie toy, Springer reminds me of Incinerator, who was a cool non-screen 2007 toy, and Shockwave was the leader of the drones in the 2007 game, which I love, and he's a movie styled triple changer, with one of his modes being a Howitzer cannon, which is a very unique altmode.
If you don't believe me that I didn't vote because of geewun, just check my post history, lol.
I don't mean to "criticize". I'm just very cynical when it comes the fandom anymore. Probably because I'm old as dirt.
It's understandable, we're getting a new comic and it's all G1, next year's movie is called Transformers ONE, we were supposedly getting an Animated Bumblebee and it's G1fied to hell... Those of us who became fans when Transformers was all about diversity of style and innovation are feeling left out by Hasbro. That's why CamaroBee's customs and polls are always such a good thing in this ocean of toxic 80's nostalgia.
Bro, we need to sit and have a cocktail. I grew up with G1, but there is a stagnation in creativity right now with Hasbro. Even the live action movies have gone more G1 and to me, it's beating a dead horse. It's like Gen 2 where we got horrible repaints of old toys and were told they were new. Unfortunately, this time Hasbro has managed to fool people into thinking what's old is new again. We need a new "Beast Wars" type reinvention.
I'm a bit far away for a cocktail, but there's dms, lol. Totally agreed on the need for a new "Beast Wars" sort of redo. I could write a whole damn book comparing what Hasbro is doing now with Transformers to the way American superhero comics declined due to publishing decisions and cold feet, even as the movies soared. But the name of the game for corporations right now is homogenization and nostalgia mining, not reinvention. I know it's just silly toys, but it's like a whole pattern in various industries and it drives me mad.
I'm a Beast Wars/Bayverse "kid" (I'm closing on thirty now, lol). But I do like the G1 aesthetic. I just don't like at all how it's all-encompassing now, and that even things that are supposed to be "new" or to represent other aesthetics of the franchise are so beholden to G1. Botbots could have been an out from that, but Hasbro totally mishandled that from the beginning, and then the pandemic came and that was the final nail in BotBot's coffin. But before 2015, we'd get a new aesthetic for the Transformers every few years. Now it's just G1 with minor alterations, sometimes even non-G1 things get G1ified, like a damn monkey's paw situation. Animated was cool! but it's not G1 enough. It's a bummer.
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And we all know how that went initially before the show aired.
Besides, the whole "reinventing the wheel" approach, as much as I dislike it, seems to be working for other toylines..
Does it, though? I only discovered the existence of things like He-Man or G.I.Joe from older Transformers fans, and I'm not that young... Those things have been barely alive for decades. Transformers was not barely alive, it oscillated from a constant influx of new fans and being a proper mainstream thing.
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:06 am
