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LinaNui wrote:

King Kuuga wrote:
So this was unexpected. Devastator, who was projected to arrive in APRIL, is available now. I'm fortunate I had enough in the bank to take the hit. I was planning to overhaul my display area, I guess I need to accelerate my plans a bit.

https://hasbropulse.com/products/transf ... -copy-copy


Just noticed my name is visible there but like, whatever.

He has been available for purchase with fast-ish delivery (I could have it to me by the 10th) on amazon for over 2 weeks now I think. I originally had it pre-ordered but cancelled due to me ordering the DNA kit for it and that would cover most of the face paint up. I will be getting it though if it drops closer to $200. Then I will have 3 complete sets lol...

For some reason I had it in my head he was a Pulse exclusive, but here he is, you're right. Was this ever newsed? I swear when he went up on Pulse he had a release date of April 1, and even if that was a placeholder, it seems weird they never mentioned in the reveal that he would be out soon.
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Rev ... 08BTWR57V/

Does anyone actually realize that this is the movie design and not just a redesign of blitzwing? "Seige is better" "think I'll pass" Yeah fine you're entitled to you opinion, but "seige is better" isn't a fair criticism because they're two completely different canons. My problem isn't with you not liking it, my problem is that you imply that this is trying to usurp it.

King Kuuga wrote:

LinaNui wrote:

King Kuuga wrote:
So this was unexpected. Devastator, who was projected to arrive in APRIL, is available now. I'm fortunate I had enough in the bank to take the hit. I was planning to overhaul my display area, I guess I need to accelerate my plans a bit.

https://hasbropulse.com/products/transf ... -copy-copy


Just noticed my name is visible there but like, whatever.

He has been available for purchase with fast-ish delivery (I could have it to me by the 10th) on amazon for over 2 weeks now I think. I originally had it pre-ordered but cancelled due to me ordering the DNA kit for it and that would cover most of the face paint up. I will be getting it though if it drops closer to $200. Then I will have 3 complete sets lol...

For some reason I had it in my head he was a Pulse exclusive, but here he is, you're right. Was this ever newsed? I swear when he went up on Pulse he had a release date of April 1, and even if that was a placeholder, it seems weird they never mentioned in the reveal that he would be out soon.
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Rev ... 08BTWR57V/

They were a little misleading in the announcement stating "Available for pre-order starting now at most major retailers or in stores starting February 2021" in their Facebook post, but they were referring to SS86 and these were released on Amazon back on October 21, days after the Facebook post.

Emerje

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
I'm going to be salty about that derailing GEEWUN-where-it-doesn't-belong hijack of a movie until the day we get a continuation of the actual Bayverse storyline.

You will never get a continuation of the actual Bayverse storyline, because the Bayverse cannot do it itself. Have you seen those movies? You can be a fan of the designs but you cannot be a fan of good storytelling and like the story in the movies.

I love it, at first, seeing them in the film, I was a bit put of by the weird mechanical design. The proportions were also a bit of with a bloated torso. But I came to like it very quick. Don't have Blitzwing yet but will get.

When I saw the photos I also thought reshell! (which isn't a bad thing imho). But now that I look at it further, it has a lot of different parts and a very different altmode.

#sold #willgetalltherepaintsprobably

I like it! In my opinion (and I love G1) it's miles better than the gorilla brute we got in the Bayverse movies. It had the personality resembling Starscream but looked like a brute. Transformers Prime did the design perfectly of the backstabbing coward, not my personal taste but the design is on point for the character.

What I really dislike about the Studio Series is the frailty of some (red car lady) and the rediculous complexity of the transformation. I'm 35 and like my bots in action (yes that collector)not to be transforming 15 minutes or longer -_-. But then I can't complain for Generations is total win and Cyberverse is a lot of fun as well. Too bad they botched the Villain Seeker set with 2 clear plastic figures and no square cartoon head remolds I want a square headed Skywarp, Thundercracker and Slipstream in deluxe size (First World Problems)

noctorro wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
I'm going to be salty about that derailing GEEWUN-where-it-doesn't-belong hijack of a movie until the day we get a continuation of the actual Bayverse storyline.

You will never get a continuation of the actual Bayverse storyline, because the Bayverse cannot do it itself. Have you seen those movies? You can be a fan of the designs but you cannot be a fan of good storytelling and like the story in the movies.

That's a matter of opinion, and not everyone's is the same. I also think the Bee movie is worse than the other live action films, except maybe TLK. But it's clear that TLK was an unfinished story. That's why there needs to be 1 more movie to conclude the 2nd trilogy. But I do agree, unfortunately it will not happen, not anytime soon and not with Michael Bay.

I wonder if Hasbro has already started producing the seeker repaints or if they're waiting to see how Starscream performs. They did include a digital shot of Skywarp with all those Starscream pics.

I feel like the color scheme and the design of the alt mode on Starscream here looks way to busy. I think if they'd been able to do more solid patches of color it might have been a little better.

noctorro wrote:
You will never get a continuation of the actual Bayverse storyline, because the Bayverse cannot do it itself. Have you seen those movies? You can be a fan of the designs but you cannot be a fan of good storytelling and like the story in the movies.

You could not be more wrong there with that statement. The movies are the only reason that I am still into transformers today. They are what I grew up with, most likely how you grew up with the G1 cartoon. DotM is my all-time favorite movie followed closely by RotF and the others. I am not a fan of the G1 cartoon/toys at all, but I do respect that they started the whole TF thing which allowed the movies to happen. SS was my one ray of hope and now G1 stuck its nose into that to.

Hopefully Dino can redeem SS for 2021, because it is looking pretty bad. Fingers crossed that we get a leader class The Fallen also.

Just putting it out there, I technically grew up on the bayverse movies, since the first one came out when I was around 9. And I liked them at first, and ill still watch them if I have to. But I also saw the beast wars cartoon before those movies came out, and my dad showed me the 80s movie and later the cartoon. So even growing up with bayverse, I still most definitely prefer G1 by a landslide. Michael bays disrespect towards the dinobots and the abominations that were his live action TMNT movies were enough for me to hold a grudge, and even without it the bayverse movies are just terribly written. There are some good fight scenes, some cool things here and there but other than that I just can't imagine why that would be the favorite version of transformers

LinaNui wrote:

noctorro wrote:
You will never get a continuation of the actual Bayverse storyline, because the Bayverse cannot do it itself. Have you seen those movies? You can be a fan of the designs but you cannot be a fan of good storytelling and like the story in the movies.

You could not be more wrong there with that statement. The movies are the only reason that I am still into transformers today. They are what I grew up with, most likely how you grew up with the G1 cartoon. DotM is my all-time favorite movie followed closely by RotF and the others. I am not a fan of the G1 cartoon/toys at all, but I do respect that they started the whole TF thing which allowed the movies to happen. SS was my one ray of hope and now G1 stuck its nose into that to.

Hopefully Dino can redeem SS for 2021, because it is looking pretty bad. Fingers crossed that we get a leader class The Fallen also.

I grew up on G1 that was aired on TV. I was a poor child so I only had 3 in my whole childhood. As I grew into screen, it was video games and nothing else.

But why I'm such a hardcore TF collector today?
You know it.
The 2007 Bay Movie.

Are these movies bad? Yes. As bad as the 1986 one to be honest. Still, as horrible as was the TLK movie, I too, want a satisfying conclusion to the Knights saga.

TLK wouldn't have been as bad if it hadn't pretended like almost all of the setup at the end of AOE never happened.

Sabrblade wrote:TLK wouldn't have been as bad if it hadn't pretended like almost all of the setup at the end of AOE never happened.

AoE was also just China pandering and the overhyped Dinobots did nothing.

It would take a small miracle for the final chapter in the Knights Trilogy to "fix" AoE and TlK.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:TLK wouldn't have been as bad if it hadn't pretended like almost all of the setup at the end of AOE never happened.

AoE was also just China pandering and the overhyped Dinobots did nothing.

It would take a small miracle for the final chapter in the Knights Trilogy to "fix" AoE and TlK.

I'll say. As bad as both films were, AOE was the only one of the original five to actually attempt to set up future storytelling for the next movie, but TLK decided to ignore almost all of that and pretend like it didn't happen. I remember back before TLK came out and the films' staunchest supporters were so insistent that we would get some actual resolution to the knights/creators story in the next movie. But then TLK was like "NOPE!" and instead gave us a completely different set of knights unrelated to the first, and gave us Quintessa "the Great Deceiver" instead of any of the Creators we saw glimpses of in AOE.

I've talked about the movies before, and I'll agree that AOE and TLK kinda threw things off the rails. I still enjoy watching them, but my headcanon is just the first three movies, which I love (particularly DOTM).

Speaking of DOTM, I finished paint work on Leadfoot! I'm really enjoying the SS Wreckers so far, and I'm very excited to get Topspin. I know it has its issues, but still excited to have the team together!

jtanimator wrote:

Rtron wrote:

TulioDude wrote:He looks nice,it's one of better takes of Tetrajet concept.

Seibertron wrote:This Voyager Class version of Starscream, from the live-action Bumblebee Movie, features this backstabbing villain in his Cybertronian mode from the Movie Universe, which retains his familiar G1 color scheme and a normal (coherent?) looking robot mode than the fictionally-later Bayverse Starscream which had a tan color scheme and a more "gorilla-with-chicken-legs" robot mode.
Seeker fans may be left wondering how long until the inevitable recolors are revealed for the other Seekers like Skywarp, Thundercracker and possibly others, though it's possible that those never see the light of day as well such as Action Master Starscream and the Energon and Cybertron toy lines which never saw proper recolors of Starscream into his Seeker brothers (Action Master Thundercracker excluded for obvious reasons due to his obnoxious unfamiliar colors).

Passive aggressive editorializing.

Day 310 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Seriously. Normal? Coherent? The word is humanoid. Or G1 inspired.

Yeah, I normally don't pay attention to people dropping in their bayverse hate comments (its usually just trolling or whining), but I certainly don't appreciate seeing this obvious passive aggressive hate from the editor.

I've gotten to the point where I just ignore it, I'm so tired of trying to justify my love of the live action movies, designs, etc. A lot of people, article author included, just feel the unnecessary need to keep going with it, even when SS86 is taking over for the most part next year.

I love my SS figures, I love all my movie figures, and they will forever be my favorites of the bunch. I like others, but these are my favorite.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:I've talked about the movies before, and I'll agree that AOE and TLK kinda threw things off the rails. I still enjoy watching them, but my headcanon is just the first three movies, which I love (particularly DOTM).

Speaking of DOTM, I finished paint work on Leadfoot! I'm really enjoying the SS Wreckers so far, and I'm very excited to get Topspin. I know it has its issues, but still excited to have the team together!

Wreckers robot mode.jpg

Wreckers Alt.jpg

Your repaints are always so awesome to see, you do an extremely great job with them!

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

LinaNui wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:With any luck Hot Rod's date will be pushed back, as a sign of them fixing him.

What needs to be fixed on him? From the reviews he seems to be pretty perfect.

Then those reviewers are either blinded or have a laughably low bar.

What needs to be fixed on him? The faux-parts chest. It's disgusting and there's absolutely no good reason for resorting to that. We know HasTak can do better than that - they have. They did it with Animated, they did it with TR/Legends... There's no excuse. If they were going to halfass it that much, they should have just slapped a Hot Rod head and deco on the Cybertron Hot Shot mold and saved themselves some money.

You're on your own with this one.

sol magnus wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

LinaNui wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:With any luck Hot Rod's date will be pushed back, as a sign of them fixing him.

What needs to be fixed on him? From the reviews he seems to be pretty perfect.

Then those reviewers are either blinded or have a laughably low bar.

What needs to be fixed on him? The faux-parts chest. It's disgusting and there's absolutely no good reason for resorting to that. We know HasTak can do better than that - they have. They did it with Animated, they did it with TR/Legends... There's no excuse. If they were going to halfass it that much, they should have just slapped a Hot Rod head and deco on the Cybertron Hot Shot mold and saved themselves some money.

You're on your own with this one.

He would have had a wide chest with the engine block otherwise. Plus, the core PotP figure had a faux-chest too.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Just putting it out there, I technically grew up on the bayverse movies, since the first one came out when I was around 9. And I liked them at first, and ill still watch them if I have to. But I also saw the beast wars cartoon before those movies came out, and my dad showed me the 80s movie and later the cartoon. So even growing up with bayverse, I still most definitely prefer G1 by a landslide. Michael bays disrespect towards the dinobots and the abominations that were his live action TMNT movies were enough for me to hold a grudge, and even without it the bayverse movies are just terribly written. There are some good fight scenes, some cool things here and there but other than that I just can't imagine why that would be the favorite version of transformers

Remember that there was others to blame for the Turtles as he was only a producer for those two movies. Basically you attack bay for the turtles you may as well go after Spielberg for Transformers. Bay is a popular target but the burden of the movies doesn't fall on him. There was lots of hands in those movies, including Hasbro’s. O also don't see how the live action movies disrespect Transformers, just because you don't like them doesn't mean that others can't. Opinions are subjective and not factual, in terms of liking something or not.

"turns into a very sleek jet"

with a tumor underneath.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Just putting it out there, I technically grew up on the bayverse movies, since the first one came out when I was around 9. And I liked them at first, and ill still watch them if I have to. But I also saw the beast wars cartoon before those movies came out, and my dad showed me the 80s movie and later the cartoon. So even growing up with bayverse, I still most definitely prefer G1 by a landslide. Michael bays disrespect towards the dinobots and the abominations that were his live action TMNT movies were enough for me to hold a grudge, and even without it the bayverse movies are just terribly written. There are some good fight scenes, some cool things here and there but other than that I just can't imagine why that would be the favorite version of transformers

Remember that there was others to blame for the Turtles as he was only a producer for those two movies. Basically you attack bay for the turtles you may as well go after Spielberg for Transformers. Bay is a popular target but the burden of the movies doesn't fall on him. There was lots of hands in those movies, including Hasbro’s. O also don't see how the live action movies disrespect Transformers, just because you don't like them doesn't mean that others can't. Opinions are subjective and not factual, in terms of liking something or not.

I appreciate your response, I mistakenly thought Michael Bay was the director of TMNT movies, definitely a fair point as far as not blaming the producers. I also never said that the live action movies disrespect transformers, only that Michael Bay himself was talking smack about the dinobots. And i also never mentioned not understanding how people can like the live action movies, I even went out of my way to say ill watch them here and there and there are some likeable scenes and aspects of the love action movies. What I said was: I dont understand how the live action movies can be preferred over G1, beast wars, or even TF:A. I'm aware of the subjectivity of opinions, I was only stating mine. The point is not to say "you can't like those movies" the point was to say "those movies suck compared to other versions of transformers imo" and even more so just to point out that what someone grew up with doesn't necessarily define their opinion

Razorbeast88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The point is not to say "you can't like those movies" the point was to say "those movies suck compared to other versions of transformers imo" and even more so just to point out that what someone grew up with doesn't necessarily define their opinion

I grew up with G1. I love G1. Most of my collection is G1 (chug/MP/3P). I also love the Bayverse designs. In some ways, they are utterly superior to G1. I love Revenge of the Fallen. The rest, not so much, but I don't hate them.

But anyone who says they are trash and I am a fool for not hating them is a sad sack of s&%t who can lick my bung clean and then go away forever.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Your repaints are always so awesome to see, you do an extremely great job with them!

Thank you, glad you're liking them! I really enjoy sharing them with you all.

Baynus transformer films are a bloody stool, once you've seen it you cant unsee it, kinda disgusting when mentioned or to look at but people have to know it exists and it exists for a purpose and even does what it's supposed to. The best you can hope for in the next is that it's just poop.

At least we get some nice toys out of it.

Razorbeast88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Just putting it out there, I technically grew up on the bayverse movies, since the first one came out when I was around 9. And I liked them at first, and ill still watch them if I have to. But I also saw the beast wars cartoon before those movies came out, and my dad showed me the 80s movie and later the cartoon. So even growing up with bayverse, I still most definitely prefer G1 by a landslide. Michael bays disrespect towards the dinobots and the abominations that were his live action TMNT movies were enough for me to hold a grudge, and even without it the bayverse movies are just terribly written. There are some good fight scenes, some cool things here and there but other than that I just can't imagine why that would be the favorite version of transformers

Remember that there was others to blame for the Turtles as he was only a producer for those two movies. Basically you attack bay for the turtles you may as well go after Spielberg for Transformers. Bay is a popular target but the burden of the movies doesn't fall on him. There was lots of hands in those movies, including Hasbro’s. O also don't see how the live action movies disrespect Transformers, just because you don't like them doesn't mean that others can't. Opinions are subjective and not factual, in terms of liking something or not.

I appreciate your response, I mistakenly thought Michael Bay was the director of TMNT movies, definitely a fair point as far as not blaming the producers. I also never said that the live action movies disrespect transformers, only that Michael Bay himself was talking smack about the dinobots. And i also never mentioned not understanding how people can like the live action movies, I even went out of my way to say ill watch them here and there and there are some likeable scenes and aspects of the love action movies. What I said was: I dont understand how the live action movies can be preferred over G1, beast wars, or even TF:A. I'm aware of the subjectivity of opinions, I was only stating mine. The point is not to say "you can't like those movies" the point was to say "those movies suck compared to other versions of transformers imo" and even more so just to point out that what someone grew up with doesn't necessarily define their opinion

Thank you and sorry that I seem to have had my wires crossed with your responses

In terms of childhood, I grew up with G1 toys and g1 cartoon tapes, but my adult opinion of the G1 toon (just the series itself, not the 1986 movie) is...not good. I'd rank it equal to Energon if I were to list animated series (top 3 is Beast Wars, Animated and Super God Masterforce), i enjoyed the live action action movies for what they were (and I've seen far, far worse...).

blackeyedprime wrote:Baynus transformer films are a bloody stool, once you've seen it you cant unsee it, kinda disgusting when mentioned or to look at but people have to know it exists and it exists for a purpose and even does what it's supposed to. The best you can hope for in the next is that it's just poop.

At least we get some nice toys out of it.

....What. the. Hell.