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Rodimus Knight wrote:Did they make any other SG combiner characters, otherwise this guy is really going to be lonely.

Yes, SG Combiner Ratchet

Flashwave wrote:Got my box today!

Gotta backpedal on screamer a step or two. While I still feel like there coulda been better choices for a combiner limb than a random SG guy, this is a GORGEOUS Deco and I love it. Gotta repurpose him somehow.

CW Redwing? Or CW Jetfire (he started out as a decepticon)

Wait... so SS Starscream can "operate independently" in either limb mode.... does that mean he can be a line flying arm or leg? That's pretty cool now that I type it...

Two things:
SG Starscream's recommended combiner

Toxitron's chest insignia

Man... so you'd need to have both Ratchet and Medix to make that work... That just seems unlikely. I did make a custom Ratchet using a first aid and the botcon stickers. I do have a spare Scattershot and Rook laying around... I wonder what another first aid will set me back...

kurthy wrote:Two things:
SG Starscream's recommended combiner

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So...you would need 2 custom Botcon Ratchets to complete that nonsense...no thank you. I'm happy with my UW Ratchet attached to Lynx Master

SG SS will do fine replacing Bluestreak as part of Wreckage. No lonely limbs in my collection

o.supreme wrote:

kurthy wrote:Two things:
SG Starscream's recommended combiner

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Toxitron's chest insignia

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So...you would need 2 custom Botcon Ratchets to complete that nonsense...no thank you.

SG SS will do fine replacing Bluestreak as part of Wreckage. No lonely limbs in my collection

Or you could use the takara ratchet and the botcon medix...

kurthy wrote:SG Starscream's Or you could use the takara ratchet and the botcon medix...

Nah...he stays with Lynxmaster... There are no other Limbs coming out, otherwise I might be foolish enough to try this. I never picked up the individual release Scattershot, or the Botcon Build-a-Figure....I'd still need one more limb....and there's no others I don't aleady own...

Nah I have a perfect symmetry of 20 unique combiners in all (10 heroic, and 10 evil)...don't want to upset the balance.

you could go for Modulus, or if you have Cyclonus, Rook, Alpha Bravo, and Offroad handy, you can complete Galvatronus with the cons and Wreckage with the bots

I think I am STILL going to get Terrorsaur and put him on Galvatronus... SG Starscream is there until I can afford it. I want to to get all of the different Ratchets + Medix (Maybe use SG Starscream instead of Marvel Ratchet since the difference between him and G1 Ratchet doesn't mean anything to me... ) and combine those with Aky Lynx. He is JUST Sky Lynx at the moment.

I'm going to miss Funpub. I was SUPER hoping that either this secret figure, or the secret figure in the next set would be the UW Blast Off mold in NOT-disgusting colors. Give it some arbitrary name. Fast Flob... Something. I dunno.

I found a place for Scorponok in my Wreckage. Since (imo) the mold doesn't really work for him, and he doesn't seem to scale with. Anything.

Found a place for all of Impactor's excessive weaponry.


Funnily is more stable than the Blackjack mold in this position.

Got mine today, loving it! Toxitron and Counterpunch are great, and while I wasn't sold on the Shatterscream concept when I first heard about it, the execution is very nice and I can't complain about the figure itself.

Sabrblade wrote:

NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE wrote:Oooookay....who threw up on Prime?

That's Toxitron's own toxic acid that oozes and secretes from his body.

Physically, he's kinda like Meltdown from Transformers Animated. You try to touch him, you gonna get BURNED!

I'd sum up Toxitron by saying he's kind of a cross between TFA Meltdown and BW Rampage, as weird as that combination may sound.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:Did they make any other SG combiner characters, otherwise this guy is really going to be lonely.

Yes, SG Combiner Ratchet

Sadly, that's from the customization class, so I don't think getting one at this point will be easy.

I think they also repurposed last year's Bluestreak so that he doubles as SG Bluestreak, if I remember what I saw on TFWiki right. But i get the feeling most of us would probably rather have him for Wreckage.

And I guess there's technically Heatwave (the Nexus Prime piece, not the Rescue Bot), but he's not the same combiner system.

Repurpose CW Alpha Bravo and Blast Off as SG Vortex and Slingshot?

mazingaspidey wrote:Wait... so SS Starscream can "operate independently" in either limb mode.... does that mean he can be a line flying arm or leg? That's pretty cool now that I type it...

I'm not sure if he can fly in limb modes, since it mentions the leg mode's jumping ability, but it doesn't say he can't either, so you can probably take it however you want.

I'm glad I have company in liking it, I was worried it'd go over like the whole Galvatronus mind control thing did...

I'm curious, other than BM and RiD Megatron (and those who share their molds), is this guy the only one to have a functional disembodied body part mode?

Nope - FoC Optimus was a fist on wheels

SG Starscream rounds out my Autobot combiners nicely:

Magnus Maximus:

Ultra Magnus (reprolabels)
SG Starscream
Wheeljack
Ratchet
Trailbreaker
Hot Rod

Optimus Maximus:

Optimus Prime
Mirage
Sunstreaker
Smokescreen
Hound

Sky Reign:

Sky Lynx
Slingshot
Air Raid
Fireflight
Skydive
Powerglide

Magnaboss:

Silverbolt
Prowl
Ironhide
Unit 3
Tigatron

And my evil Autobot:

Nova Maximus:

Nova Prime (reprolabels)
Bombshell (shoulder weapon)
Blackjack
Rook (victim of Bombshell)
Alpha Bravo (victim of Bombshell)
Offroad
Terrorsaur

Here they are, the entirety of the TFSS

I'm loving the look of Toxitron and Counterpunch With great deco and headsculpts for both Kind of a shame we never got a CW Nemesis Prime but i'll take Toxitron.i like how they'reboth given development in the recent stories with Counterpunch Having difficulties decididng which side he's really Spying for and for Toxitron .... Well we've known since Animated that Toxitron was a failed clone of Optimus and he's Big and Dumb but in this figure I see potential for a storyline where he escapes whatever captivity he is in under Shockwave and goes on a Rampage on Cybertron. As for Starscream well we've already got a SG Starscream from back in 2008 but he's an expensive convention exclusive that's probably going for heaps on the aftermarket so yeah i'll take it and BTW the Bot mode in the pic is mistransformed with the armsnot being brought up to the shoulders I do that with my UW Skydive and it makes him Strong looking soooo yeah also his jet mode deco looks kinda similar to that Legends Jetfire from 2006 (the thundercracker repaint)

Prime Target wrote:Kind of a shame we never got a CW Nemesis Prime but i'll take Toxitron.

That's who Toxitron's new head was originally made to be, but then Takara went and made UW Grand Scourge, fulfilling the need for a CW evil black Optimus Prime lookalike.

Prime Target wrote:Well we've known since Animated that Toxitron was a failed clone of Optimus and he's Big and Dumb but in this figure I see potential for a storyline where he escapes whatever captivity he is in under Shockwave and goes on a Rampage on Cybertron.

I take it you haven't read this Toxitron's story - http://www.transformersclub.com/prose/the_toxic_transformer.pdf

Zeedust wrote:

mazingaspidey wrote:Wait... so SS Starscream can "operate independently" in either limb mode.... does that mean he can be a line flying arm or leg? That's pretty cool now that I type it...

I'm not sure if he can fly in limb modes, since it mentions the leg mode's jumping ability, but it doesn't say he can't either, so you can probably take it however you want.

I'm glad I have company in liking it, I was worried it'd go over like the whole Galvatronus mind control thing did...

I'm curious, other than BM and RiD Megatron (and those who share their molds), is this guy the only one to have a functional disembodied body part mode?

I kinda dug the Galvatronus mind control thing, maybe um just weird.

I do think that this may be one of the only disembodied limb modes besides RID Megatron and BM Megatron, yes.

Ive spent the last few months pining over completing Wreckage... now I just want to put Modulus together :/

The bonus figure is a waste of space for me and I find myself wondering what awesome other nebulous thing got cut for this to happen. Oh well. Now I have a spare limb of a character no one needed a new version of.

That aside, the paint job is pretty so I'm going to go with the spirit of Shattered Glass and re-purpose this as CW Robot Masters R-Blade.

Okay, that combined sword in the Wreckage pics from earlier in the thread, I gotta ask... Is there some trick to attaching Impactor's swords to Toxitron's gun? Because when I try to do it the way it looks like they did, it feels like there's no way it can fit without breaking something.

Behind-the-scenes info about the SG Starscream toy from Randy Para (author of Screamer's bio), Pete Sinclair, and Jesse Wittenrich:

Randy:

My intention with the bio was to take most of Starscream's defining qualities and flip them 180 degrees in a manner of speaking. So instead of thinking himself as the most handsome, he is the most handsome but doesn't feel that way. Instead of wanting to replace Megatron, he is a very capable leader himself but feels Megatron is more suited, etc. Even things like his weaknesses, which got cut for room, were the opposite of Starscream's.

Original

Weaknesses: Starscream overrates himself sometimes, and finds himself in situations that are more than he can handle. His nose-dives often overload his gyro-circuitry leaving him disoriented briefly. But, overall, he is a very tough nut to crack.

SG

STARSCREAM's humility can sometimes impede missions. He often is perfectly capable of handling a situation on his own but overcompensates by planning for unnecessary reinforcements. When flying top speed at high altitudes STARSCREAM often overloads his gyro-circuitry leaving him briefly disoriented.

Adding bits about the medic (per Jesse's request) and the scientific mind, etc, certainly make him Jetfire like.

Randy:

The Null Fist comes from a holdover from another bio and my deep seeded desire to make a G Gundam reference if at all possible.

Pete

For the record, this Starscream is from the G1 Sunbow SG universe...

Randy:

If it's not apparent too, the bio is mostly meant to be silly. What with him being over the top great and handsome and all, and hopping around in leg mode all by himself.

Jesse:

It's a strange Ouroboros loop sort of thing actually since the tooling selection for CW Starscream was made a lock before the BotCon figures, but the decision to make it SG Starscream came after indications that it would be the last Club toy. (Basically the Club wanted to make the capstone figure something that undeniably had its roots in the Club's own heritage.)

The original character choice for the Starscream mold is what led to the idea to make a clear hand for Ratchet. Then the clear hand for Ratchet (specifically SG Ratchet) led to SG Starscream keeping his clear hand.

So tracing the process, it's: Starscream mold -> (SG) Ratchet -> SG Starscream

Randy:

To add to that, the original concept's bio was written back in November of 2015 (which referred to it as "Shining Fist"). With the HFG being clear going back as far as May of 2015 (something I had suggested to get some Shining Finger love).

SG Starscream's bio was written back in March of 2016, when [Jesse] stated that the HFG could still be clear, the final bio reflected that fact.

Jesse:

There was no doubt discussion and concern about making another red and white Aerialbot, but the mock up showed it was actually different enough from Skydive, Cicadacon, and Windsweeper (none of which had white) and different from Airraid since the red and white were ending up in non-Aerialbot layouts.

Also as the concept was being worked on, there was a small uptick in demand/interest in the character with fans - largely overseas to be honest - trying to find the original or lamenting about the 2ndry market price.

The latter is why I felt good about the decision (after originally being more than skeptical), and I hope that those wanting a SG Starscream can more easily get one now. Cuz I mean yeah he's the subscription only figure but yeah he's not for everyone...

Jesse:

Yeah, it's not like there wasn't an attempt to change tools... *Sniff* SG Rodimus Prime will never be... but everything was too late in the process for it to be anything other than the Seeker mold.

I missed the first TFCC Punch/Counterpunch and am really tempted to try and nab this one but as he's only Counterpunch, he feels slightly incomplete. I can't decide.

RiddlerJ wrote:I missed the first TFCC Punch/Counterpunch and am really tempted to try and nab this one but as he's only Counterpunch, he feels slightly incomplete. I can't decide.

Would it help if there was a story to tell why he's only Counterpunch now?