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kirbenvost wrote:I'm pretty glad the only United figure I've had to pick up so far is Jazz. Maybe Tracks.

I was pretty surprised with how nice Tracks is. I just grabbed him because of the hood deco, but as a nice bonus, his paint job is superb!

Gotta love the metal shine to the vehicle body panels. Perceptor's lack of chrome diminishes the United version I think. Now if we could get the best of both...

Perceptor has no chrome! BAHAHAHAHAHAH!

ShardFenix wrote:the only thing i really like on these is the bumper trim on perceptor as it adds a little more to his alt-mode. just out of curiosity...how hard could that be to add on to the RTS version of Perceptor? And how would I do it?

It is really easy, and I'm planning to do the same thing to Perceptor.

Get some decent acrylic paints (I like Tamiya, or Testors Model Master paints) and some masking tape (or a really steady hand) and you can add the trim yourself.

Metallic paints, like silver, often don't stick well directly to plastics so you may want to base coat in a flat, either black or white, or hit the area you want to paint with a LIGHT sanding with 600 grit or higher paper.

Good luck, and remember I take no responsibility for damaged or destroyed figures.

Kibble wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:I'm pretty glad the only United figure I've had to pick up so far is Jazz. Maybe Tracks.

I was pretty surprised with how nice Tracks is. I just grabbed him because of the hood deco, but as a nice bonus, his paint job is superb!

The only thing holding me back right now is price. Unfortunately they'll likely be sold out by the time I can afford it...

Ah, Takara, making Hasbro's TFs look like knockoffs.. Another bloody Blurr to add to the collection..

I think the colour is a little off in these photos, so I'm not basing my final opinion too heavily on them.

From what we've seen before, the red and blue on United Perceptor appear to be a lot closer to the G1 standards than RTS. Plus United's vehicle mode looks better with the silver bumpers. Chrome is not the be all and end all in my opinion, so it's absence really doesn't bother me. United win for me.

Wreck-Gar is a tough one. I prefer the brighter colours of United, but the silver face looks rubbish and his patchwork of colours is far too patchy. I REALLY can't decide between them.

Seems like a no brainer to me....Wreck is from a planet of junk....He is most likely composed, greatly, of said junk. Why would he have such a wonderfully sparkly bunch of bits? I guess living, breathing and BEING junk is ok IF you can have some really shiny parts! Maybe it's their make-up? The fall color scheme of the Hasbro version works so well. Why? Because it is shades of colors you would more likely find on....RUST!!!

Perceptor would get the United win except for the matte shins. If you are shiny, be shiny. Not Half shiny. You know, he won't be REALLY excepted by the shiny bots, but the dull bots won't like him either 'cause he's half shiny.? Right?

Final verdict: 2 more wins for Hasbro (OMG I can't believe it!!)

Still haven't seen Blurr (dammit.), Wreck-Gar (Dammit.), Kup (DAMMIT.), or Perceptor (DAMMIT!!!). In fact, no RTS at all. Only the 2-pack Battle in Space, as I said before. God hates me.

kirbenvost wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Just canceled my preorder for Perceptor. Thank you Hasbro for going out of your way to make that figure special. Hope this goes to show that Hasbro DOES do some nice things with their paint apps and such.

Agreed.

IMO these United versions look terrible. Patchwork metallic-painted parts combined with exposed grey plastic do not look good. I think I'm just not a fan of metallic paint except in certain applications, such as for silver or gold parts. Otherwise, all or nothing. It looks really bad having a big metallic area broken up by bare unpainted plastic.

The only things I like are the fender details on Perceptor and the yellow flames on Wreck-Gar. Otherwise, Hasbro superior, Takara inferior. Hasbro's Perceptor looks far better with the chrome, and I actually like the yellow windows, and I like the shades of red & orange used for Wreck-gar much more.

Wholeheartedly agree.

Picked up RTS Perceptor and Wreck-Gar today, and they blow their United counterparts out of the water.

kirbenvost wrote:I'm pretty glad the only United figure I've had to pick up so far is Jazz. Maybe Tracks.

United Tracks makes Hasbro's offering look like a cheap knock-off...

Sodan-1 wrote:I think the colour is a little off in these photos, so I'm not basing my final opinion too heavily on them.

From what we've seen before, the red and blue on United Perceptor appear to be a lot closer to the G1 standards than RTS. Plus United's vehicle mode looks better with the silver bumpers. Chrome is not the be all and end all in my opinion, so it's absence really doesn't bother me. United win for me.

Wreck-Gar is a tough one. I prefer the brighter colours of United, but the silver face looks rubbish and his patchwork of colours is far too patchy. I REALLY can't decide between them.

I've had the RTS Perceptor in hand and I'd have to say that, while the color is a little flat, the tone is dead-on with his G1 toy. I'm kind of kicking myself for having passed him up now that I've seen the United version. The shiny is just a bit too much.

Also have to say that, while the United color scheme for Wreck-Gar is better, he too also needs to lose the sheen. IMO, a Junkion should not be that shiny. Gonna have to go with Hasbro's version on that figure as well.

If only I were rich.

You dont need to be rich..hasbros versions are clearly better for perceptor and wreck-gar. Buy them now while they exist.

I'm just happy there's a Wreck-Gar figure at all! I'm happy with either figure.

monstergrotusque wrote:I'm just happy there's a Wreck-Gar figure at all! I'm happy with either figure.

Dude no kidding. I placed the G1, Animated, and RTS versions side by side. RTS looks like a freaking statue!!! A sculpted piece of art. I love G1, but these "classic" styled figures are so well designed they take the charm right out of its G1 counterpart.

GetRightRobot wrote:

monstergrotusque wrote:I'm just happy there's a Wreck-Gar figure at all! I'm happy with either figure.

Dude no kidding. I placed the G1, Animated, and RTS versions side by side. RTS looks like a freaking statue!!! A sculpted piece of art. I love G1, but these "classic" styled figures are so well designed they take the charm right out of its G1 counterpart.

HA! totally. My G1 WG looks like something out of Buck Rodgers in the 25st century show from 1979 when put beside the Classics version. Love the contrast.

Seibertron wrote:

Stockade wrote:

Messiah Complex wrote:WOW The RTS Wreck Gar paint apps are crap next to United that creamy orange is sickly, But i like hasbros Preceptor better than United.

Thank you, Thank you!!! im glad to see someone agrees that hasbro's version of Wreck-Gar is crap compared to United!

I think the Hasbro version is better. Not digging the silver paint on his face at all especially since he's never had a silver face before as a toy or in the cartoon. It's like Takara is trying to be different just to be different.

Well, Wreck-gar's toy face looks to be gray:



And his face appears to be gray in the Marvel comics:



My monitor color may be off for the toy pic...I don't know. But it appears to be a light gray.

I actually like the United Perceptor better than Hasbro's. Not real big on chrome and I love the clear plastic used for the windows and headlights.

We have more images of Takara-Tomy's Transformers United Wave 3 thanks to Alfes 2010. The wave consists of Wreck-Gar, Kup, Blurr, and Perceptor. The blog post contain many images of the new figures along with comparison shots of them with their Generations/Reveal the Shield counterparts and their G1 counterparts. Click here to see the blog post. Click on the figure names or pictures to go to the individual galleries. These figures look fantastic. Blurr... so shiny

Wreck-Gar There are two pages for Wreck-Gar. Click here for page 2.











Click here to see Seibertron's own gallery of Reveal the Shield Wreck-Gar!

Kup







Click here to see Seibertron's own gallery of Generations Sergeant Kup!

Blurr









Click here to see Seibertron's own gallery of Generations Blurr!

Perceptor









Click here to see Seibertron's own gallery of Reveal the Shield Perceptor!

All the United versions make the Hasbro versions look like unfinished prototypes.

My mind has swung in the other direction. Perceptor's robot mode looks awesome (minus the chrome) and while the vehicle mode looks goofy with the different finishes I still find it preferable to Hasbro's. Re-preordered! *sigh*

I kind of want the United Tracks to keep him company, but that's another $33 for a bit deeper/shinier finish and a little faction symbol.

Well this makes Wreck-Gar look a little better, but it still needs to lose the metallic paint. Not a fan of the color scheme on the head either.

Paint, too shiny! And does anybody think that on Perceptor the shade of red paint actually clashes with the shade of red plastic?

Sometimes I think Takara is too worried about shiny metallic paint rather than paint detailing. The metallic paint on Kup does nothing for me but the detailing on Jazz/Tracks makes all the difference. I love the deep blue on Blurr but prefer the white on the robot mode of Hasbro's version.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Paint, too shiny! And does anybody think that on Perceptor the shade of red paint actually clashes with the shade of red plastic?

I do agree. But, oh how i wish Hasbro would have used clear plastic for the windows and chest plate. The off color yellow/orange looks bad..

i still cant find these guys in the states. when are these guys suppose to come out in the states?!?!?!