ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, from what I hear Hasbro is apparently packing him like he was a Bumblebee, so there's that at least.
sol magnus wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, from what I hear Hasbro is apparently packing him like he was a Bumblebee, so there's that at least.
Yeah. Still gotta get to that box first, though.
william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, from what I hear Hasbro is apparently packing him like he was a Bumblebee, so there's that at least.
Yeah. Still gotta get to that box first, though.
No different to any other release, right?
Microbot wrote:I want to know if I'm the only one crazy that will buy 3 Refraktor instead of one for being more classic cartoon accurate
Wolfman Jake wrote:Microbot wrote:I want to know if I'm the only one crazy that will buy 3 Refraktor instead of one for being more classic cartoon accurate
I'd say most collectors are going for the Reflector trifecta. The better question would be, who is happy with just ONE Reflector for their collection?
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Pretty sure one of the cyberverse figures with the vehicle armor has slammer covered so I'd rather see brunt repainted silver (battlestar galacticish) and maybe even have a red handprint on him
Ooh? Which one?
PushYouDown wrote:I gotta say.....Springer is my favorite character, I hate the colors on this one.
That main body green is...like 90s neon.
Skritz wrote:Bah! who am I kidding. Kids don't buy Generations, only manchildren.
o.supreme wrote:Skritz wrote:Bah! who am I kidding. Kids don't buy Generations, only manchildren.
True story...One of my friends bought his 10 year old son PotP Inferno, because he is a firefighter, and of course our kids are friends and both like Transformers. My son had to explain to his son about the Combiner gimmick, (because of course they didn't read the instructions) . Of course I got an angry response from my friend because now his son said he wanted 4 deluxes to finish the combiner. They ended up getting a Dinobot, Jazz, and 2 Terrorcons... I didn't wan to crush his contentment by explaining team symmetry and all the combiner possibilities, so I told my son just not to say anything .
Skritz wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Microbot wrote:I want to know if I'm the only one crazy that will buy 3 Refraktor instead of one for being more classic cartoon accurate
I'd say most collectors are going for the Reflector trifecta. The better question would be, who is happy with just ONE Reflector for their collection?
A kid whose parents buy him Transformers?
Bah! who am I kidding. Kids don't buy Generations, only manchildren.
o.supreme wrote:Skritz wrote:Bah! who am I kidding. Kids don't buy Generations, only manchildren.
True story...One of my friends bought his 10 year old son PotP Inferno, because he is a firefighter, and of course our kids are friends and both like Transformers. My son had to explain to his son about the Combiner gimmick, (because of course they didn't read the instructions) . Of course I got an angry response from my friend because now his son said he wanted 4 deluxes to finish the combiner. They ended up getting a Dinobot, Jazz, and 2 Terrorcons... I didn't wan to crush his contentment by explaining team symmetry and all the combiner possibilities, so I told my son just not to say anything .
Rodimus Prime wrote:o.supreme wrote:Skritz wrote:Bah! who am I kidding. Kids don't buy Generations, only manchildren.
True story...One of my friends bought his 10 year old son PotP Inferno, because he is a firefighter, and of course our kids are friends and both like Transformers. My son had to explain to his son about the Combiner gimmick, (because of course they didn't read the instructions) . Of course I got an angry response from my friend because now his son said he wanted 4 deluxes to finish the combiner. They ended up getting a Dinobot, Jazz, and 2 Terrorcons... I didn't wan to crush his contentment by explaining team symmetry and all the combiner possibilities, so I told my son just not to say anything .
You should have, just so he would have to go out and buy the other Terrorcons, and 2 more limbs for Inferno. He doesn't need to get Grimlock, because Volcanicus is a turd.
And to make myself a hypocrite, this discussion belongs in the PoTP thread, let's get back to Siege, please.
I've never owned a Springer toy, the Siege voyager will be my first one. I'll get Red Alert simply for the sake of completion, and of course I'll get Reflector because I love that combining gimmick. I will call the combined camera Reflector, but what do I call the individual bots? They can't all be Refraktor, can they?
Spectro, Spyglass and Viewfinder? That's a good idea, except all 3 are identical, so I guess it doesn't matter which is which.ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I've never owned a Springer toy, the Siege voyager will be my first one. I'll get Red Alert simply for the sake of completion, and of course I'll get Reflector because I love that combining gimmick. I will call the combined camera Reflector, but what do I call the individual bots? They can't all be Refraktor, can they?
I would just use the names of the individual bots from the G1 toyline (can't remember them all at the moment but I'm sure aside from Reflector, one was Spyglass)
Rodimus Prime wrote:Spectro, Spyglass and Viewfinder? That's a good idea, except all 3 are identical, so I guess it doesn't matter which is which.ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I've never owned a Springer toy, the Siege voyager will be my first one. I'll get Red Alert simply for the sake of completion, and of course I'll get Reflector because I love that combining gimmick. I will call the combined camera Reflector, but what do I call the individual bots? They can't all be Refraktor, can they?
I would just use the names of the individual bots from the G1 toyline (can't remember them all at the moment but I'm sure aside from Reflector, one was Spyglass)
Moreover, the cartoon was very inconsistent on its portrayal of the three. Most of the time the three would speak in unison as one, while other times an individual one (who lacked the central guy's tummy circle) would be seen by itself. One anomalous occasion had a fourth member not only speak with his own unique non-Chris Latta voice and beg for his life against the others, but that fourth one was also sent to Cybertron through the space bridge, becoming separate from the main three by a span of lightyears and still functioning just like them. Another weird instance once had the main three shown to be pressed up against each other, in which case the two who lacked the tummy circle disappeared into the central guy's body, as though he was the only "real" one while the other two were projected duplicates a la the Insecticons' clones. This weird instance never happened again afterward.Wolfman Jake wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Spectro, Spyglass and Viewfinder? That's a good idea, except all 3 are identical, so I guess it doesn't matter which is which.ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I've never owned a Springer toy, the Siege voyager will be my first one. I'll get Red Alert simply for the sake of completion, and of course I'll get Reflector because I love that combining gimmick. I will call the combined camera Reflector, but what do I call the individual bots? They can't all be Refraktor, can they?
I would just use the names of the individual bots from the G1 toyline (can't remember them all at the moment but I'm sure aside from Reflector, one was Spyglass)
In the original cartoon, they were all simply "Reflector." They were never really addressed individually. It's unknown if they all have separate consciousness or one shared mind. They also frequently were depicted as MORE than just three nearly identical robots, especially to fill out the background in battle scenes.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wolfman Jake wrote:PushYouDown wrote:I gotta say.....Springer is my favorite character, I hate the colors on this one.
That main body green is...like 90s neon.
Springer was just ahead of his time, maybe?
Seriously, though, SIEGE Springer's greens and yellow are closer to the original G1 toy in terms of brightness or "saturation" than the G1 cartoon and movie character models, which were duller, more desaturated tones. Brighter colors work better on toys. This has been Hasbro's method of operation for decades. Toys are more attractive to casual buyers on the shelf, especially kids, when they're bright and colorful. The recent in-hand photos we got may be a bit over-saturated, hence the blue coming out in the "gray" legs much more strongly than in previous stock photos. The colors on Siege Springer, minus the gray, look to be pretty on point to those of Thrilling 30 Springer from 5 years ago.
o.supreme wrote:Refraktor is definitely welcome among most fans I'd imagine. Coincidentally though, I'll stick with the Botcon 2016 legends Trio. They fit into my existing Combiner Theme, plus they do have a fan made camera mode so I get a double win there . Still, for every fan who wants 3 Siege Refraktors, I don't think there will be a supply issue.
Sabrblade wrote:Moreover, the cartoon was very inconsistent on its portrayal of the three. Most of the time the three would speak in unison as one, while other times an individual one (who lacked the central guy's tummy circle) would be seen by itself. One anomalous occasion had a fourth member not only speak with his own unique non-Chris Latta voice and beg for his life against the others, but that fourth one was also sent to Cybertron through the space bridge, becoming separate from the main three by a span of lightyears and still functioning just like them. Another weird instance once had the main three shown to be pressed up against each other, in which case the two who lacked the tummy circle disappeared into the central guy's body, as though he was the only "real" one while the other two were projected duplicates a la the Insecticons' clones. This weird instance never happened again afterward.
One attempt to explain how there were so many Reflectors in the cartoon came in Fun Pub's Wings Universe fiction, in which Reflector was said to have been the leader of a subgroup of identical-looking Decepticons called the Photons.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I am continually baffled as to why people would want Sunstreaker and Sideswipe retooled from one another. Their transformation schemes are entirely opposite! It makes no sense! the same way a Tracks/Sideswipe retool makes no sense. If anything, Sunstreaker and Tracks should share molds, not Sideswipe.
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