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[TheForgottenTaxi]

I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.
I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.
I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.
I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.
Yes, fine, I got the Starscream, that was different, he's Starscream.
Shut up.
Stop looking at me like that.

[Evil Eye]

I feel conflicted. On the one hand, decent matching Voyager earth mode Seekers at long last. On the other hand it's a kinda weak mold that's basically an upscale and slight re-engineering of the ancient Classics figure. If I get Starscream and like him I might track them down. But that's a big if honestly.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

I was just relieved that this time, there will be a UK retailer picking up these Seekers. It is so obnoxious having to try to source these obscure US exclusives internationally.

[Gauntlet101010]

As if there was ever any doubt.

I don't know if I'll get as many ER Seekers as I have Classics, but I'll get the main six.

[william-james88]

I think we had a listing for Thrust?

We did, as a TRU exclusive in Canada.

Now as for this seeker listing, I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don,t have time to dig up my old post, but yeah we were talking about it and I was really adamant about not assuming it would be the coneheads. To me, having these two was always the more obvious assumption. It would be weird to finally have the mold in the size everyon's been asking for and not doing these.

As for the clones.... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

This only helps those who didn't get any clone whatsoever in the first place. And even then, that just means they are stuck finding the others on e-bay to complete the set.

Thanks for getting this D-Max, I just logged on to do it and saw it was already taken care of.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Heh, so this time when they said "Clones" they really meant it instead of it being an excuse to have somebody's Forestonite-upgraded self walking around with them.

Given how the Clones were handled during Titans Return, there's likely a counterpart reissue pack of the Autobot Clones on the way. There had better be, since this pack can't supplement the TR packs.

And not too surprised at Skywarp and Thundercracker being bundled, it's something of a trend (although IMO this line should have opened with Skywarp in the first wave and put Starscream in the two-pack). Glad to see Skywarp bundled with TC rather than, say, Ultra Magnus' cab robot. And glad that they're still getting Skywarp's purple right, not putting too much red in it.

[ZeroWolf]

I think we had a listing for Thrust?

We did, as a TRU exclusive in Canada.

Now as for this seeker listing, I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don,t have time to dig up my old post, but yeah we were talking about it and I was really adamant about not assuming it would be the coneheads. To me, having these two was always the more obvious assumption. It would be weird to finally have the mold in the size everyon's been asking for and not doing these.

As for the clones.... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

This only helps those who didn't get any clone whatsoever in the first place. And even then, that just means they are stuck finding the others on e-bay to complete the set.

Thanks for getting this D-Max, I just logged on to do it and saw it was already taken care of.

Ironically, I logged on earlier to do the same and saw D-Max had swooped in to take care of business
Also which UK retailer is doing these?

[william-james88]

They both appear to be straight repaints of Starscream, with no alternate head immediately apparent.

Skywarp has the new head in his standalone image, but the regular one in the one with Thundercracker

Yeah I was gonna write that too. With what they are showing us, we can't arrive at any conclusions yet.

[william-james88]

I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.
I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.
I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.
I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.

I did it. And it worked out fine. The classic seekers sold in no time at all, for what I bought them or more. Plus, we have more now than we did before and in different molds still keeping a nice aesthetic. If they give us the coneheads, that means I will have a nice collection of 11 good looking seekers in the right size (the classsics just does not scale well).

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

The Classics mold does scale well... with G1 toys. Which is why I've been hesitant to get them all.

I'm holding onto the Dirge and Badly Repainted Acid Storm (which I will probably strip again and give another try for reasons) I have, just to lend their weapons to the WFC versions.

[bluecatcinema]

The Decepticon Clones look pretty good. Interesting how they altered Wingspan's transformation, but kept Pounce's basically the same...

[Jelze Bunnycat]

The Decepticon Clones look pretty good. Interesting how they altered Wingspan's transformation, but kept Pounce's basically the same...

Wingspan now makes less of a "box with wings", making him no longer a contender for "Worst bird mode ever"

[Cobotron]

The Decepticon Clones look pretty good. Interesting how they altered Wingspan's transformation, but kept Pounce's basically the same...

Wingspan now makes less of a "box with wings", making him no longer a contender for "Worst bird mode ever"

Huh. I don't see a difference. I just got out my Tak Legends Wingspan to compare and contrast. Looks the exact same to me. In that render though, they have the wings untabbed from the torso so they can bend upward.

Also, looking at these Legends Clones, that is indeed the exact same deco. Stickers and all.

[grimdragon2001]

The Decepticon Clones look pretty good. Interesting how they altered Wingspan's transformation, but kept Pounce's basically the same...

Wingspan now makes less of a "box with wings", making him no longer a contender for "Worst bird mode ever"

Huh. I don't see a difference. I just got out my Tak Legends Wingspan to compare and contrast. Looks the exact same to me. In that render though, they have the wings untabbed from the torso so they can bend upward.

Also, looking at these Legends Clones, that is indeed the exact same deco. Stickers and all.

Makes them an easy pass for me since i went for the Takara Clones when they came out. I must have those Seekers though.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

The Decepticon Clones look pretty good. Interesting how they altered Wingspan's transformation, but kept Pounce's basically the same...

Wingspan now makes less of a "box with wings", making him no longer a contender for "Worst bird mode ever"

Huh. I don't see a difference. I just got out my Tak Legends Wingspan to compare and contrast. Looks the exact same to me. In that render though, they have the wings untabbed from the torso so they can bend upward.

Also, looking at these Legends Clones, that is indeed the exact same deco. Stickers and all.

It's possible bluecatcinema is talking about in comparison to the original toys:


Pounce's transformation is decidedly less dissimilar than Wingspan's.

[Tuned Agent]

a fine addition to my collection.

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Yes, exactly!

Thundercracker and Skywarp are looking quite good, they really nailed their decos. I would have liked a bundle discount like the Rainmakers, but I didn't expect one. At least they aren't overpriced.

They both appear to be straight repaints of Starscream, with no alternate head immediately apparent.

Skywarp has the new head in his standalone image, but the regular one in the one with Thundercracker

Yeah I was gonna write that too. With what they are showing us, we can't arrive at any conclusions yet.

I think Skywarp has the screaming face in the picture with Thundercracker as well.

[Flashwave]

I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.
I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.
I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.
I will not replace my entire Classics Seeeker collection.

I did it. And it worked out fine. The classic seekers sold in no time at all, for what I bought them or more. Plus, we have more now than we did before and in different molds still keeping a nice aesthetic. If they give us the coneheads, that means I will have a nice collection of 11 good looking seekers in the right size (the classsics just does not scale well).

I disagree somewhat on the scale. There are a ton of Deluxe Jets that they work very well with. Airelbots, Darkwing and Dreadwind, RTS Lugnut

I am still waiting to find out if we get the Coneheads. If we do, I'm in. As you say, 11 Seekers, 6 Earthbound and 5 Gusrding Cybertron, is more than my Classics Collection.

[Emerje]

Skywarp has the new head in his standalone image, but the regular one in the one with Thundercracker

That's not even the strangest thing about these images:


Check out their guns impossibly strapped to the bottom of the jets facing backwards. Skywarp's are even black instead of purple which I would greatly prefer. His visible shoulders are also black.

And now the guns are gone and Skywarp's shoulders are purple again.

And here the bar that goes across their chests are black and blue instead of silver like on the individual shots. I kinda like this more.


Edit: Just realized zooming in that the second set of images are actual figures, not 3D renders. Still time for more changes to happen, we've seen that a lot with WfC.

Ah well, just keep showing what **** tools we were to even buy a single Siege figure, huh? Myself included.

Speak for yourself. They're both great molds and I don't mind getting all the reasonable repaints they want to make for each.

As for the clones, I might get them if they sell them for Deluxe price one sale. If freaking Walgreens can sell two clones for $18 then Target should be able to sell them for $20, not this nonsense $25 price. If that's what Hasbro thinks two Legends are worth now then I guess we wont be seeing Legends replacing Micromasters any time soon. I guess all future little guys are going to be handled ER Cliffjumper from now on.

Emerje

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

They don't scale well with the CW Aerialbots unless you're insisting on IRL vehicle mode scale.

We've had a listing for Thrust, and all three show up on Sky Lynx's box... (which is decidedly more hint than we've had of the other Datsuns).

Ah well, just keep showing what **** tools we were to even buy a single Siege figure, huh? Myself included.

Hardly fools. Here's why:

Also:
1. No sign of Sideswipe getting replaced
2. You do realize Skyfire and Omega Supreme are SIEGE figures, yes?
3. There's no sign of the Rainmakers getting Earth redos (which would be wrong anyway)
4. Ironhide and Ratchet are better than the Universe figures and there's no sign of them getting new toys yet, plus they'd make passable Cybertron Mode versions in the event of "Definitely Earth" versions
5. The SIEGE Battlemasters
6. Is there so much as a whisper of revamps of Chromia, Brunt, Cog, or Six-Gun? No. Those were SIEGE figures too.
7. SIEGE Optimus makes a passable Cybertron Mode version given the constraints caused by the cartoon not bloody giving anybody except Laserbeak a Cybertronian robot mode
8. IMO SIEGE Megatron is better than Earthrise. I have no interest in getting ER Megs unless I find him at a substantial discount. Now, if they gave us a Leader-class "Submarine" Megatron... But no sign of that yet.
9. You know who else isn't getting an Earthrise revamp? Shockwave!

[DMSL]

I hope Thundercracker will be a darker blue, he is a little light in these pictures.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I hope Thundercracker will be a darker blue, he is a little light in these pictures.

It's because of the cartoon:

[NTESHFT]

You know what I hate about myself?....where I'm excited about these two packs and am going to grab them on sight....I'm now asking what about the other clones and the Coneheads.

[Jtprime17]

You know what I hate about myself?....where I'm excited about these two packs and am going to grab them on sight....I'm now asking what about the other clones and the Coneheads.

Thrust is coming as an individual release according to TRU’s system.

Theres a listing for a Amazon exclusive “Earth mode 2 pack” that’s also priced around $60. So maybe the other 2 are in there?

Edit: before any one asks. Yes the Earthmode 2 pack and Thundercracker and Skywarp seeker 2 pack are different things. They both have different Hasbro product codes and EAN’s.

[-Kanrabat-]

Look like I wont be having ER Thundercracker because I always get him to keep him sealed and 2-packs break the rule.

However, it's WAY better to sell the two other members of the Seeker trio this way than the bullcrap Amazon exclusive.

[Nemesis Primal]

Well Skywarp and TC were inevitable, nice to see they come together and don't take up too many spots for other figures/Seekers. I thought they would be the Earthmode 2-Pack though, not this one. Also note that the description in their listing soft-confirms the existence of more Earthrise Seekers, further confirming the leaks. The clones are an odd choice though, wouldn't it have made more sense to do the 2-pack of Fastlane and Pounce instead, to go with the Walgreen set? I probably won't get either of these, although my girlfriend might snag those Seekers to go with her Siege Screamer.

so which rumoured listings have we still not seen yet?

Selects
Deluxe Rotorstorm
Deluxe Hot House
Deluxe Hubcap *
Deluxe Mercenary Bugbite
Deluxe Roritchi
Voyager G2 Megatron

Retail
Voyager Seeker Thrust

Amazon
"Alternate Universe" Optimus Prime
Earthmode 2-Pack

Unknown (Could be any of the other 3 categories)
Deluxe Exhaust
Deluxe Greasepit

SDCC
GI Joe & Transformers set

* I'm starting to wonder if Hubcap will be a MW-based Hoist repaint instead of the Minibot everyone is expecting, since there have yet to be any Selects figures who share/repeat molds with each other and as of what we know right now, Bugbite would have to be a Cliff repaint due to lack of Bumblebee.