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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Ya know Stu, you keep throwing stuff out here and I like this one. It is interesting they haven't done anything with Sideways.

Now where is my IDW Sunstreaker fellas..

I NEED a Sideways. Seems more like a Ehobby thing though.

Wait. MAGNUS Prime? Any speculation on what that would be?

I could be down with a Laser Prime Voyager TM with eHobby G2 Magnus deco and a different head. Sometimes exclusive boxed sets like that have a figure or two that veer into eHobby type territory.

RodimusRex wrote:Wait. MAGNUS Prime? Any speculation on what that would be?

It would be like Delta Magnus, a red and blue repaint of Ultra Magnus

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Ya know Stu, you keep throwing stuff out here and I like this one. It is interesting they haven't done anything with Sideways.

Now where is my IDW Sunstreaker fellas..

Back in the universe line


Oh and Steal your goats, thanks for the list. Isn't a redeco of voyager triple changer prime supposed to be in one of those sets too?

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Ya know Stu, you keep throwing stuff out here and I like this one. It is interesting they haven't done anything with Sideways.

Now where is my IDW Sunstreaker fellas..

Back in the universe line

Noooo no no no no no will, my Titanmaster Sunstreaker, with little titanmaster Hunter!

Insurgent wrote:since a fake bash of her from Chromedome was doing the round.

That's not a digibash. That's an actual fan custom figure fully painted by Cheetimus Primal.

Overcracker wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
FYI Overlords Power Master gimmick wasn't integral to the transformation. All the Powermasters did was pop out some breast guns

Actually, they did a bit more than that.

His powermasters were somewhat integral to the transformation in that they unlocked the tank section to split into the legs, and unlocked the arms in the jet mode. Granted you could totally press the buttons in the slots yourself without the powermasters, but they did have that function.

Hate to ask, are you sure? The video review I saw led me to believe that the bits just came apart

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Ya know Stu, you keep throwing stuff out here and I like this one. It is interesting they haven't done anything with Sideways.

Now where is my IDW Sunstreaker fellas..

Back in the universe line

Noooo no no no no no will, my Titanmaster Sunstreaker, with little titanmaster Hunter!

I'd wager a Sustreaker Headmaster, along with Sideways and Animated Headmaster are all characters that would be a great fit for this line that I wouldn't be surprised if Hasbro never even considered.

- Sunstreaker seems perfect as a standalone Titan Master. His head is very signature, much like Grimlock or Brawn. The IDW homage would be nice.

- The same goes for Animated Headmaster.

- I think Sideways would work well sharing tooling with a new version of Wreck Gar for this line. Wreck Gar could use a beefier Deluxe representation and I could see a mold being designed that works for both Wreck Gar and Sideways, with only modest retooling.

- As for Arcee, I half wonder if the best option isn't just a retooling of her Generations mold with a new head. I'd actually just vote calling the U.S. release of her Titan master partner Plasma (and IDW Beast Wars character who claimed to be all of the Witwicky's) while the Takara release could be Daniel. Plasma is also the name of the RiD/Car Robots version of Headmaster Spike Witwicky so it's a deep cut reference.

RodimusRex wrote:I'd wager a Sustreaker Headmaster, along with Sideways and Animated Headmaster are all characters that would be a great fit for this line that I wouldn't be surprised if Hasbro never even considered.

- Sunstreaker seems perfect as a standalone Titan Master. His head is very signature, much like Grimlock or Brawn. The IDW homage would be nice.

- The same goes for Animated Headmaster.

- I think Sideways would work well sharing tooling with a new version of Wreck Gar for this line. Wreck Gar could use a beefier Deluxe representation and I could see a mold being designed that works for both Wreck Gar and Sideways, with only modest retooling.

- As for Arcee, I half wonder if the best option isn't just a retooling of her Generations mold with a new head. I'd actually just vote calling the U.S. release of her Titan master partner Plasma (and IDW Beast Wars character who claimed to be all of the Witwicky's) while the Takara release could be Daniel. Plasma is also the name of the RiD/Car Robots version of Headmaster Spike Witwicky so it's a deep cut reference.

I agree very much with all of what you said. There are some characters who fit this line so well that maybe haven't even been considered

There are more rumblings in the Transformers rumour network, as fellow fansite TFW2005's Mr Chaos finds more listings for potential upcoming figures. Today's offering are two leader class figures for the Titans Return line, supposedly to arrive after Six Shot: Overlord and Sky Shadow!

Two new product listings from my friend. While his work doesn't carry Leader figures for Titans return yet (they are still stuck with Combiner Wars stuff) I was able to get him a UPC for Titans Return and he got me two listings: Leader Class Overlord (C2388) and Leader Class Sky Shadow (C1104)

Overlord was pretty much expected but Sky Shadow was a surprise. As always I have no clue what the figures look like, only that they are listed to come after Sixshot.

We had been teased something of the Overlord kind at BotCon, as you can see from the images below, and we may have heard something about the other Phase Sixer in the past, but what do you make of this new info? Speculate and discuss away in the Energon Pub!

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

RodimusRex wrote:I'd wager a Sustreaker Headmaster, along with Sideways and Animated Headmaster are all characters that would be a great fit for this line that I wouldn't be surprised if Hasbro never even considered.

I agree very much with all of what you said. There are some characters who fit this line so well that maybe haven't even been considered

Let's give them the benefit of the doubt, OK? They've already proven their interest in obscure Headmaster characters like Lione, I'm sure they're as aware of their options as we are.

Emerje

Dr Va'al wrote:Sky Shadow!

PLEASE mean we've got a Leader Thunderwing in our future!!

Emerje

WOAH is Sky Shadow out of the blue! I'm still very happy with his deluxe iteration, but Thunderwing needs to be leader class so I'm all for it.

Kurona wrote:WOAH is Sky Shadow out of the blue! I'm still very happy with his deluxe iteration, but Thunderwing needs to be leader class so I'm all for it.

As much as I love black shadow and am stoked it does make me think "maybe it's a redeco of sixshot in black shadows colors" wouldn't complain but I could see it

Randomhero wrote:

Kurona wrote:WOAH is Sky Shadow out of the blue! I'm still very happy with his deluxe iteration, but Thunderwing needs to be leader class so I'm all for it.

As much as I love black shadow and am stoked it does make me think "maybe it's a redeco of sixshot in black shadows colors" wouldn't complain but I could see it

I highly doubt that, especially due to rumours we're getting a Quickswitch redeco of Sixshot.
And heck, if they really wanted to go the obscure Victory character redeco of Sixshot route... http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Greatshot_(Victory)

Randomhero wrote:

Kurona wrote:WOAH is Sky Shadow out of the blue! I'm still very happy with his deluxe iteration, but Thunderwing needs to be leader class so I'm all for it.

As much as I love black shadow and am stoked it does make me think "maybe it's a redeco of sixshot in black shadows colors" wouldn't complain but I could see it

I can't really see that. It's one thing to do Soundwave right after Blaster since there's a history there and a good deal of remolding, plus they're on different sides, but a straight repaint of Six Shot as another Decepticon in the following wave for no reason other than to reuse the mold is highly unlikely. Especially when there's already rumor of the mold being used for Quickswitch.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Kurona wrote:WOAH is Sky Shadow out of the blue! I'm still very happy with his deluxe iteration, but Thunderwing needs to be leader class so I'm all for it.

As much as I love black shadow and am stoked it does make me think "maybe it's a redeco of sixshot in black shadows colors" wouldn't complain but I could see it

I can't really see that. It's one thing to do Soundwave right after Blaster since there's a history there and a good deal of remolding, plus they're on different sides, but a straight repaint of Six Shot as another Decepticon in the following wave for no reason other than to reuse the mold is highly unlikely. Especially when there's already rumor of the mold being used for Quickswitch.

Emerje

I'm just playing devils advocate. Heck for all we know we could get this version of Sky shadow in leader size...



It'd be glorious and amazing

Emerje wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:Sky Shadow!

PLEASE mean we've got a Leader Thunderwing in our future!!

Emerje

I want a Voyager Thunderwing. Deluxe was too small... Leader is far too big.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Hate to ask, are you sure? The video review I saw led me to believe that the bits just came apart

Only if they have broken the toy plugging in the Engine block does release the tank halves for sure... but you can push the buttons manually - so perhaps that is what they did.

Randomhero wrote:I'm just playing devils advocate. Heck for all we know we could get this version of Sky shadow in leader size...



It'd be glorious and amazing

One of my favorite Fuzors in Leader class? I'd buy that for sure.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:Sky Shadow!

PLEASE mean we've got a Leader Thunderwing in our future!!

Emerje

I want a Voyager Thunderwing. Deluxe was too small... Leader is far too big.

He's usually shown in the comics as larger than average, especially if this ends up being done IDW-style where he's massive, nearly combiner size.

Speaking of IDW, anyone notice that the last three mentioned Leader class figures are part of Megatron's "Warriors Elite"? Bring on Heretech and Killmaster! But more importantly they are also "Point One Percenters" with unique sparks. Six Shot, Sky Shadow, and Overlord are all .1%ers, as well as recent releases like Fortress Maximus, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Minimus Ambus/Ultra Magnus, and Shockwave. Strange coincidence, right? And only Shockwave isn't a Leader or larger. Maybe Grimlock, Scorponok, and Tarn could be coming soon as well?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Speaking of IDW, anyone notice that the last three mentioned Leader class figures are part of Megatron's "Warriors Elite"? Bring on Heretech and Killmaster! But more importantly they are also "Point One Percenters" with unique sparks. Six Shot, Sky Shadow, and Overlord are all .1%ers, as well as recent releases like Fortress Maximus, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Minimus Ambus/Ultra Magnus, and Shockwave. Strange coincidence, right? And only Shockwave isn't a Leader or larger. Maybe Grimlock, Scorponok, and Tarn could be coming soon as well?

Emerje

A bit more notably than that; Overlord, Sixshot and Sky/Black Shadow were the three Six-Phasers in IDW.

Emerje wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'm just playing devils advocate. Heck for all we know we could get this version of Sky shadow in leader size...



It'd be glorious and amazing

One of my favorite Fuzors in Leader class? I'd buy that for sure.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:Sky Shadow!

PLEASE mean we've got a Leader Thunderwing in our future!!

Emerje

I want a Voyager Thunderwing. Deluxe was too small... Leader is far too big.

He's usually shown in the comics as larger than average, especially if this ends up being done IDW-style where he's massive, nearly combiner size.

Speaking of IDW, anyone notice that the last three mentioned Leader class figures are part of Megatron's "Warriors Elite"? Bring on Heretech and Killmaster! But more importantly they are also "Point One Percenters" with unique sparks. Six Shot, Sky Shadow, and Overlord are all .1%ers, as well as recent releases like Fortress Maximus, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Minimus Ambus/Ultra Magnus, and Shockwave. Strange coincidence, right? And only Shockwave isn't a Leader or larger. Maybe Grimlock, Scorponok, and Tarn could be coming soon as well?

Emerje

I think that's probably just because a lot of notable characters in the IDW-verse are point one percenters. I could see a new Grimlock coming eventually, although we've already seen his head in this line (as Clobber). Scorponok is on Hasbro's radar, but as a Titan, and we won't be seeing him soon as the next Titan release will be Trypticon.

Tarn has gotten a lot of fan reaction, but I doubt he'll get a toy release unless some other creator picks the character up. He is a new character that has come and gone in the IDW comics, so I don't see him appearing unless a good remold comes up late in a line.

Heretech and Killmaster are barely characters, and we've only actually seen each of them once or twice. We don't even know what they turn into!

MrBlack wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I'm just playing devils advocate. Heck for all we know we could get this version of Sky shadow in leader size...



It'd be glorious and amazing

One of my favorite Fuzors in Leader class? I'd buy that for sure.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:Sky Shadow!

PLEASE mean we've got a Leader Thunderwing in our future!!

Emerje

I want a Voyager Thunderwing. Deluxe was too small... Leader is far too big.

He's usually shown in the comics as larger than average, especially if this ends up being done IDW-style where he's massive, nearly combiner size.

Speaking of IDW, anyone notice that the last three mentioned Leader class figures are part of Megatron's "Warriors Elite"? Bring on Heretech and Killmaster! But more importantly they are also "Point One Percenters" with unique sparks. Six Shot, Sky Shadow, and Overlord are all .1%ers, as well as recent releases like Fortress Maximus, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Minimus Ambus/Ultra Magnus, and Shockwave. Strange coincidence, right? And only Shockwave isn't a Leader or larger. Maybe Grimlock, Scorponok, and Tarn could be coming soon as well?

Emerje

I think that's probably just because a lot of notable characters in the IDW-verse are point one percenters. I could see a new Grimlock coming eventually, although we've already seen his head in this line (as Clobber). Scorponok is on Hasbro's radar, but as a Titan, and we won't be seeing him soon as the next Titan release will be Trypticon.

Tarn has gotten a lot of fan reaction, but I doubt he'll get a toy release unless some other creator picks the character up. He is a new character that has come and gone in the IDW comics, so I don't see him appearing unless a good remold comes up late in a line.

Heretech and Killmaster are barely characters, and we've only actually seen each of them once or twice. We don't even know what they turn into!

Grimlock is a unique case. Even after the last movie Hasbro and Takara still don't wanna Dinobots for whatever reason. Yeah we got clobber and the swoop Titan masters but that's it. I don't see a new generations grimlock on the horizon.

I don't see Tarn ever happening. Just don't.

As for scorponok...well I was playing around with my fort max this weekend and saw a photo that was getting blown up on Twitter and I think I found out how we're getting Titan scorponok.



https://twitter.com/matty0984/status/772272229161639936

Change the hands to punchers, lose the tower, add a tail, change the ram to a helmet and MAYBE add some Scorpion legs to the feet. There's Titan class scorponok.

I understand the chances of it happening are slim to nil,

but deep in my heart, I'm hoping that along with Overlord being in that leader wave being 2 figures that combine to form a single one, that SkyShadow is just the name they're using for the combined mode of Darkwing & Dreadwind now, and it's a masterstroke 2 pack set of those good old chaps Hydra and Buster from Masterforce. They did come in a 2pack set in japan, i believe.

Randomhero wrote:I'm just playing devils advocate. Heck for all we know we could get this version of Sky shadow in leader size...



It'd be glorious and amazing

!!!!
Sky Shadow was a land animal and a sky animal combined into one. Overlord is a land vehicle and a sky vehicle that combine for robot mode at least (I'm not sure what that one image is implying). Maybe possibly there's some kind of wacky repaint, please Hasbro! BW Sky Shadow is already perfection, but I'd be ALL OVER a "pre-war" version.


But I'm expecting just another use of that Seeker mold that's shelfwarming as we speak...