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Mr Skram wrote:Kinda sounds like a bummer, but would anyone think it might be worth it for someone who doesn't have Metroplex yet?

If you have neither or Gen Metroplex nor G1 Fortmax, I say it would be better to double the money you are prepared to pay and go for Encore G1 Formax. They made way too many of him and he's been in clearance since about a year. He would cost around 300$US shipped for Canadians and Americans. If you can only afford or just want to pay 150$ max, got for the TR version. Either way, having a huge bot in a TF collection is always a good thing.

However, your money will defenitely be better spendt on the long run with Encore-23 Fortress Maximus.

Ehhhhhh no. Honestly, I may very well just save up and try and track down the reissue + PE Warden. G1 Max may be a brick but he's so loaded with play features it doesn't really matter. Also, the G1 figure's city mode knocks the TR figure into a cocked hat. That thing looked like a fortress.

Mr Skram wrote:Kinda sounds like a bummer, but would anyone think it might be worth it for someone who doesn't have Metroplex yet?

I say yes, but wait for the eventual price reduction (like 20%). He sadly doesnt have the same functionality as Metroplex even though they use the same mold. Here is what Nathan wrote to me about how his legs still open:

they do open up but from underneath so its that back half that opens out not the gun half, means they don't really work in vehicle or base mode. hes really just lacking from not enough guns, i forgot to say the shin guns dettach and can go on his shoulder or have a fold out handle but they dont show that feature in the instructions. still dont know what that lil leg bit is meant to do though, its hollow and weird.

Black Bumblebee wrote:I've said it before, and I'll say it again. For the price, it just doesn't have what the original G1 Fort Max had. If you're willing to pay the money for this, just put a bit extra in, and buy the reissue of the G1 Fort Max. That figure had so much play factor built into it.

Yup. I just got CW Skylynx yesterday and thats another figure who's original version has a totally different kind of playability that makes it still as relevant to own as ever. What you wrote is something I totally stand by and something I did when I saw this new fort max. For 100$ more, you get one of the greatest TF toys of all time.

Kurona wrote:So... he's not taller than Metroplex?

Thats a major bummer, he also seems much smaller in width.

I guess they left the arm gun out due to parts count. The remolded the panel also.

I think I'll hold out and wait until Trypticon is released and they get around to Omega Supreme. I have higher hopes for those two, they can be my big robits

SureShot18 wrote:I think I'll hold out and wait until Trypticon is released and they get around to Omega Supreme. I have higher hopes for those two, they can be my big robits

Or you can do what I plan on doing and just wait and see how low this goes down in price. Would you say no to this toy for 75$? You would be surprised how good a deal you can get if you dont get things right away: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ale/35409/

Wait for the TT version. New head for Fortress. Anime paint apps. Master sword/swords(?). Japanese voice clips and uhhhhhhhh working elevator (nope, that was in G1). 360 degree rotating radar dish (nope, that was in G1). Cog (Gasket and Grommet), nope (that was in G1). Twin Tower photon rifles,nope (again in G1). Tech spec meter built in (so is there a tech spec meter here?) Tilt/gravity position vehicle/inertia powered vehicle launchers! Nope, again in G1 figure.

OKAY! G1 version despite being a brick still knocks the new version by lightyears

Blunt force trauma object!.................I think the G1 version still wins in that criteria

So.... I guess we can confirm that the sound gimmick for fort max being able to play the headmaster op (fort takara verison and it seems theres one in the hasbro verison too) is placed in celebros chest cause it seems that theres a sound gimmick in his chest.

Anyone know if the knee joints are any better/stronger on Fort Max than they were on Metroplex?

Expected video review first not pictures video reviews don't have to be fancy and funny we all know what articulation is like thanks for pictures but I would have waited few more days to see video first compared to pictures

I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

william-james88 wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:I think I'll hold out and wait until Trypticon is released and they get around to Omega Supreme. I have higher hopes for those two, they can be my big robits

Or you can do what I plan on doing and just wait and see how low this goes down in price. Would you say no to this toy for 75$? You would be surprised how good a deal you can get if you dont get things right away: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ale/35409/

When you're a teenager 9 times out of 10 you have no money when those epic sales come around.

SureShot18 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:I think I'll hold out and wait until Trypticon is released and they get around to Omega Supreme. I have higher hopes for those two, they can be my big robits

Or you can do what I plan on doing and just wait and see how low this goes down in price. Would you say no to this toy for 75$? You would be surprised how good a deal you can get if you dont get things right away: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ale/35409/

When you're a teenager 9 times out of 10 you have no money when those epic sales come around.

As an adult, it's not nessessarily better. Real life is pretty costly and very often, money must go elsewhere than into toys.

At least as a teen who (normally) live with his parents, you can get any Mc jobs to just pay for fun things without having to worry about food, rent, and other bullcrap life throw your way.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So... he's not taller than Metroplex?

Thats a major bummer, he also seems much smaller in width.

Did you guys even look at the pictures? He's clearly taller than Metroplex.

He's not taller than Metroplex's shoulder guns but if you expected that he would be, I don't know what to tell you. They were always going to be the same height from toe to neck, it was the size of the head that would make the difference, and Plex gets to cheat on his height by having some long guns sticking straight up out of his shoulders.

That Bot wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So... he's not taller than Metroplex?

Thats a major bummer, he also seems much smaller in width.

Did you guys even look at the pictures? He's clearly taller than Metroplex.

He's not taller than Metroplex's shoulder guns but if you expected that he would be, I don't know what to tell you. They were always going to be the same height from toe to neck, it was the size of the head that would make the difference, and Plex gets to cheat on his height by having some long guns sticking straight up out of his shoulders.

It's a pretty hard call either way - the only thing that would make one taller than the other is the head and they're really close. Depending on how you look at it one can look like it has that slight edge over the other.

SureShot18 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:I think I'll hold out and wait until Trypticon is released and they get around to Omega Supreme. I have higher hopes for those two, they can be my big robits

Or you can do what I plan on doing and just wait and see how low this goes down in price. Would you say no to this toy for 75$? You would be surprised how good a deal you can get if you dont get things right away: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ale/35409/

When you're a teenager 9 times out of 10 you have no money when those epic sales come around.

Thats why toi put thé Monet s'est for qu'en Rudy come. Be or christmas or tout birthday, just take 75$ Abd put it aside

Edit: My phone was on french autocorrect. Here is what I said:

Thats why its best to just put what little money you have aside. Be it christmas (or any other holiday celebration) or your birthday, just put 75$ aside. Like instead of buying the latest call of duty, just put that money aside. And then within a year wait for one of these sales. If it never happens, thats fine you still have 75$ and you dont feel like you missed out on anything.

Kurona wrote:

Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

Killing what? Mountains? Giving a city-sized robot an edged weapon to use is only efficient if you want half of your own troops obliterated.

dragons wrote:Expected video review first not pictures video reviews don't have to be fancy and funny we all know what articulation is like thanks for pictures but I would have waited few more days to see video first compared to pictures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

Autobot N wrote:

dragons wrote:Expected video review first not pictures video reviews don't have to be fancy and funny we all know what articulation is like thanks for pictures but I would have waited few more days to see video first compared to pictures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

He<s not typing, he is using a voice recognition software.

Autobot N wrote:

dragons wrote:Expected video review first not pictures video reviews don't have to be fancy and funny we all know what articulation is like thanks for pictures but I would have waited few more days to see video first compared to pictures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

Thank you for this incredibly substantial post that truly contributed to the discussion.
Please do not criticise others for their use of the English language, not everyone can be an obvious literary scholar like yourself.
Oh, and please keep to the topic at hand.

Microraptor wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

Killing what? Mountains? Giving a city-sized robot an edged weapon to use is only efficient if you want half of your own troops obliterated.

Well, there's this guy called Scorponok.

Kurona wrote:

Microraptor wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

Killing what? Mountains? Giving a city-sized robot an edged weapon to use is only efficient if you want half of your own troops obliterated.

Well, there's this guy called Scorponok.

Speaking of that guy called Scorponok, I think they should be making a Titan Class figure of him before Trypticon. I'm more of a Fort Max and Scorponok fan than a Metroplex and Trypticon fan. I'm still kinda bitter that Trypticon won the fan vote over Scorponok. (I'm not sure if that was on-topic or not....)

Kurona wrote:

Microraptor wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

Killing what? Mountains? Giving a city-sized robot an edged weapon to use is only efficient if you want half of your own troops obliterated.

Well, there's this guy called Scorponok.

Yup. Used on Megazarak aka Scorponok (the JP name in G1). The Master sword was used as a last resort in the JP universe as it causes a massive energy drain on Fortress (even his assumption of his "maximus" mode was such a drain on Fortress)

My other post btw on what the G1 had over the latest wasn't an indictment of the current version. Just a comparison. Will still get this (or should we say, the JP version)

I hope fans will support this else Hb might abandon future Cityformer projects if the sales don't add up.

@Kanrabat Yeah I realize that it just seems that some adults are able to splurge more. Believe me I dread the day when I need to worry about all of the adult responsibilities. At least the money is there, maybe not for buying luxuries like Transformers but at least it's there.

@williamjames88 I wondered what was going on with the French. That's a great plan. However my collecting is split between Transformers, Marvel Legends, Lego, and Star Wars, so there's usually new product available at all times that I want, not including backtracking. And frankly I'm not the biggest fan of Max so he probably wouldn't take priority.