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If the character suits the mould, and it looks good, with a new head where appropriate, I don't mind repaints/retools. Or in the case of Chromedome, all new parts but the same skeleton. As I mentioned before, I collect these toys to have a representation of that character, and if I can get a great looking version of that character from a retool, I'd be happy. If it was a retool and looked nothing like the character, then I would not. Because let's face it, theres only so many ways you can make a car transform into a robot.


I understand those who collect for the actual toys want all new toys, but to that respect, I'm reminded of what a Hasbro rep said once about the repaints. They don't intend people to buy every single repaint they put out. If you don't want a toy because it keeps the same skeleton, then simply don't buy it. Save your pennies for that new skeleton that comes out. If you want that toy because you want that character, then it shouldn't matter if it's the same base skeleton, if it retains the transformation that makes that character look like his iconic self. If you keep changing the reasons you collect, of course you're going to get upset. Simples.

Well, I for one, cannot wait for the Takara version of this guy.

Counterpunch wrote:Well, I for one, cannot wait for the Takara version of this guy.

Of who? Blaster?

steals_your_goats&Ironhidensh wrote:words and stuff

Look, I'm sorry for my tone. I didn't mean for that to be a personal attack on you. I'll try and get on later and write a better, more coherent response explaining my position. I'll try to make it less hostile too. It's just sometimes difficult to put in type something you feel rather strongly about.

Ironhidensh wrote:

steals_your_goats&Ironhidensh wrote:words and stuff

Look, I'm sorry for my tone. I didn't mean for that to be a personal attack on you. I'll try and get on later and write a better, more coherent response explaining my position. I'll try to make it less hostile too. It's just sometimes difficult to put in type something you feel rather strongly about.

Yeah I'm sorry too. Kinda made an ass of myself by taking things a bit too personally.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

steals_your_goats&Ironhidensh wrote:words and stuff

Look, I'm sorry for my tone. I didn't mean for that to be a personal attack on you. I'll try and get on later and write a better, more coherent response explaining my position. I'll try to make it less hostile too. It's just sometimes difficult to put in type something you feel rather strongly about.

Yeah I'm sorry too. Kinda made an ass of myself by taking things a bit too personally.

We should be careful how we proceed. We are acting like adults, and that **** isn't allowed on the Internet.

Ironhidensh wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

steals_your_goats&Ironhidensh wrote:words and stuff

Look, I'm sorry for my tone. I didn't mean for that to be a personal attack on you. I'll try and get on later and write a better, more coherent response explaining my position. I'll try to make it less hostile too. It's just sometimes difficult to put in type something you feel rather strongly about.

Yeah I'm sorry too. Kinda made an ass of myself by taking things a bit too personally.

We should be careful how we proceed. We are acting like adults, and that SHIZZLESNIT isn't allowed on the Internet.

"Motto: "Tell those damned kids to stay off my lawn!""

Kurona wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

steals_your_goats&Ironhidensh wrote:words and stuff

Look, I'm sorry for my tone. I didn't mean for that to be a personal attack on you. I'll try and get on later and write a better, more coherent response explaining my position. I'll try to make it less hostile too. It's just sometimes difficult to put in type something you feel rather strongly about.

Yeah I'm sorry too. Kinda made an ass of myself by taking things a bit too personally.

We should be careful how we proceed. We are acting like adults, and that SHIZZLESNIT isn't allowed on the Internet.

"Motto: "Tell those damned kids to stay off my lawn!""

*high fives Kurona in the face*

How dare you point out a logical fallacy on the internet? The NERVE I say! I say! The NERVE!

steals_your_goats wrote:

Robogeek1973 wrote:There's an upcopming Legends Bumblebee?

Yup that rumor came out a few months ago. Apparently he looks quite a bit like the devastation model. So very g1 and close to his masterpiece figure. But these are rumors with no pictures so for all we know what the podcast guys saw could've been a place holder image.

Don't know how I missed that one.


Thanks man.

steals_your_goats wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Sorry to have started this, I just don't want Nautica to be a retool of Blurr and Brainstorm. To me, that would be the same thing as trying to get a third figure out of Springer and Sandstorm. that mold is a great mold, and they pulled off 2 good figures from it, but I feel a third one would have taken away from the figures.

I apologize for my outburst just now, I don't think you have anything to be sorry for I wasn't trying to argue with you about anything I was just showing the other side to the repaint coin. Obviously a new mold would be preferred but what if instead of blurr they used scourge for Nautica's base, would you feel better about that?

I would really need to see how said figures would actually transform first to make up my mind about that one. As long as the windows end up right on her chest, the front of the alt mode is her legs and of course she has the big turbine wings, I'd be good with it. Just preferably not a 3rd retool. If Scourge worked, and I'm not getting him, I'd be ok with it

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Sorry to have started this, I just don't want Nautica to be a retool of Blurr and Brainstorm. To me, that would be the same thing as trying to get a third figure out of Springer and Sandstorm. that mold is a great mold, and they pulled off 2 good figures from it, but I feel a third one would have taken away from the figures.

I apologize for my outburst just now, I don't think you have anything to be sorry for I wasn't trying to argue with you about anything I was just showing the other side to the repaint coin. Obviously a new mold would be preferred but what if instead of blurr they used scourge for Nautica's base, would you feel better about that?

Scourge would be... incredibly bizarre and I don't think it'd be a good fit for Nautica at all; but I'll just assume you're only using him as an off-the-top-of-your-head example of "what if instead of retooling her from a guy that already has a retool, she was retooled from someone who doesn't have a retool already"?
In which case yeah, I would of course prefer it. I am still being blown away by the extent of just how well Hasbro has done their Retools recently - as I keep saying, aside from the thighs torso mode Bruticus looks NOTHING like torso mode Defensor - but having 2 uses for a mold and 2 uses for another mold as opposed to 3 uses for a mold and 1 use for another would work better for me; it'd make each figure more unique in a weird roundabout way.

Scourge would be a better fit for Nautica's alt-mode:





She also has a bit of "wing" kibble on her back, so the wings on Scourge may work with her, provided the shape of the body is altered a bit. I could see it.

^ this here was my thought process. It's not perfect but I think it'd work better than blurr.

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Sorry to have started this, I just don't want Nautica to be a retool of Blurr and Brainstorm. To me, that would be the same thing as trying to get a third figure out of Springer and Sandstorm. that mold is a great mold, and they pulled off 2 good figures from it, but I feel a third one would have taken away from the figures.

I apologize for my outburst just now, I don't think you have anything to be sorry for I wasn't trying to argue with you about anything I was just showing the other side to the repaint coin. Obviously a new mold would be preferred but what if instead of blurr they used scourge for Nautica's base, would you feel better about that?

Scourge would be... incredibly bizarre and I don't think it'd be a good fit for Nautica at all; but I'll just assume you're only using him as an off-the-top-of-your-head example of "what if instead of retooling her from a guy that already has a retool, she was retooled from someone who doesn't have a retool already"?

I thought he picked Scourge because the robot modecould homage Thunderblast who is a nautical themed fembot.

Generator G1 wrote:Latest podcast already up.

1. Legends Chase (repaint of upcoming new legends Bee)
2. Legends Titanmaster Thunderclap
3. Deluxe Fastlane
4. TR Perceptor
5. TR Nautica - remold of TR Blurr
6. TR Quickswitch (remold of TR Sixshot). LEADER class.

1. Meh.
2. Meh.
3. Interesting.
4. Cool.
5. Neat! Given that Blurr is one of the TR molds I'm most excited for (and I don't really read the comics, so I don't care if the mold doesn't resemble her all that much), I'm sure I'll enjoy this as well.
6. NOW we're talking. I'm planning to get Sixshot anyway, but I've always had a bias towards Autobots, so an Autobt six-changer is good news.

About those Speed and Strength packs, I assume they'll be something like the CW boxsets.

Also, Hot Rod

http://www.allspark.com/2016/04/first-p ... s-hot-rod/

Looks awesome!

Randy

Autobot N wrote:About those Speed and Strength packs, I assume they'll be something like the CW boxsets.

Also, Hot Rod

I think the strength/speed sets might just be fun names for two waves. They very well could be box sets but it seems like an odd choice.

As for hot rod..kinda torn. He's a funky mix of g1 with a dash of IDW, without the IDW head. I'll just have to stare at it for an hour and hopefully something happens.

So who is Thunderclap, again?

WAIT WAIT HOLY **** THAT HOT ROD
I NEED IT

Damn, Titans Return keeps knockin' it out of the park! I'm gonna have to get a raise to afford all this...

Kurona wrote:So who is Thunderclap, again?

Probably Thunderclash.

Kurona wrote:So who is Thunderclap, again?

It sounds like a Cybertronian STD...

Delta Magnus wrote:Probably Thunderclash.

I'll go with that, though there is a G1 Thunderclap...

Looks fantastic! I'll probably wait to see what Takara does to enhance the deco. As it is, though, Hasbro's layout looks pretty solid. They got the hood color and flames right, which they rarely bother to do.

Well folks, we have another leak found by the Allspark (supplied by an anonymous source) of the already hinted at Titans Return HotRod! What's surfaced from the darkest depths of the interwebs this time is the Cavaliers design specs and character artwork, but unfortunately no name is attached to his Titan Master pal. See the pics below, and thanks to Seibertronians Autobot N & Powered Convoy for giving us the heads up!

Since the little Titan Masters keep the name of the G1 originals (barring trademark issues, of which there are plenty), we can expect him to be named "Firebolt". Scourge has Fracas and Blurr has Hyperfire, which is analogous to Haywire in a sense.

shajaki wrote:

Awesome, better than the MP and Classics version, definitely interested in him