Sabrblade wrote:Like I said, it's basically the same case that G2 Smokescreen, Energon Starscream, and FOC Starscream were. Different molds using similar engineering to get the same basic transformation across the board.Randomus wrote:Looking at the two, there's just too many similarities for Chromedome to have not started from Dead End (or Streetwise), but probably not past the CAD stage. It looks like every singe piece is different, even the wheels and fists, to say nothing of the parts and joints needed for the new feet, canopy, and torso modifications.
Do we call this a retool? Do we come up with a new term (e.g. "total retool")? Is it all just semantics anyway? After all, from Springer/Sandstorm to now, we've seen a spectrum that throws the 3-step "New mold-retool-redeco" model out the window.
Other cases like this would be:
- The G1 Bumblebee, G1 Cliffjumper, and G1 Bumper molds
- The G1 Runabout and G1 Runamuck molds,
- The Alternators Smokescreen and Alternators Meister molds
- The Energon Sledge/Bonecrusher and Cybertron Hardtop molds
- The Prime Cyberverse Legion Knock Out and Prime Beast Hunters Cyberverse Legion Smokescreen molds
- The DOTM Deluxe Roadbuster and AOE Deluxe Lockdown molds
I think you guys are trying to say the same. I think they use the exact same transformation scheme but only one or two parts are the same.
1. The knees to the waist are the same.
2. The combiner peg takes up a lot of space so having a hollow space there but having a solid connection between the shoulders would probably increase mold stability. The dead end mold is almost completely hollow from the stomach to the back/canopy.
3. The chromedome mold has the door panel stop at the wrist rather than halfway down the forearm. This means that the feet can take the space where the lower forearms would go.
4. With no more need for a combiner peg or a head, there is more than enough room for the master to fit in vehicle mode under the canopy.
By my count there are 17 shared parts (4 are wheels). Crotch, hips, knees, clavicles, and the parts connecting the front end to the back.