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[Deadput]

Just because Skullitron has that name doesn't make him a Decepticon and since he is just a remold of Steelbane I think he is also one of the Knights and is simply on neither side.

The Decepticons having a smaller group of defined characters is good not only because each Decepticon is their own character with a name but also since the Creators are the main antagonists or at least the greater threat having an army of Decepticons would just clog up the movie like how the army of KSI bots did in AOE.

Does any one think that Nitro might also be fairly important since he is the only one of the known Decepticon group besides Megatron and Barricade to receive their own main line figure while Onslaught, Hooligan and Mohawk the latter who doesn't seem to be a reuse of a previous con cgi model do not have their own figures?

[Bumblebee21]

hes been confirmed to be a con

[Kurona]

We have seen Armor Knight Turbo Changer Hound with all the other Transformers: the Last Knight toys at Toyfair, but we had yet to get any official images. Well, thanks to a tip from Seibertronian Scotty P, we now have images from Toysrus France. It is an early listing and no stock is available yet. What is fun to see here is that this simplified Hound has a totally different transformation scheme than the other new simplified Hound molds for this line where instead of his missile racks becoming his arms, they become his legs. While Megatron is getting a lot of love with new molds in this film, it seems the runner up would be Hound.

... is... is that Longtooth?

[Autobot N]

Where's Tazerface?!

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[Jelze Bunnycat]

Huh, turns out both sides of the green Blackout debate were wrong. What are the odds

[Emerje]

Just because Skullitron has that name doesn't make him a Decepticon and since he is just a remold of Steelbane I think he is also one of the Knights and is simply on neither side.

If only there was some sort of clue, like a giant faction symbol or something.




Emerje

[Autobot N]

Just because Skullitron has that name doesn't make him a Decepticon and since he is just a remold of Steelbane I think he is also one of the Knights and is simply on neither side.

If only there was some sort of clue, like a giant faction symbol or something.




Emerje

Wasn't Lockdown given a for the last movie, though?

[Emerje]

Wasn't Lockdown given a for the last movie, though?

Hasbro does feel a need slap faction symbols on everyone (Unicron sure isn't a Decepticon), but it is a good indicator of their alignment (good or evil). And since Skullitron is most likely not in the movie to begin with we're left believing he's just another Decepticon until some fiction says otherwise.

Emerje

[Kurona]

Yeah, Hasbro tends to give characters clear-cut factions even when it doesn't make sense for the characters; sometimes even leaking into the fiction. Lockdown, Unicron, most RiD Decepticons if we're being honest... I guess they figure it's easier to sell a character as being on a particular side rather than their own.

We can glean from this that Skullitron is definitely not an Autobot, though

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Wasn't Lockdown given a for the last movie, though?

Hasbro does feel a need slap faction symbols on everyone (Unicron sure isn't a Decepticon), but it is a good indicator of their alignment (good or evil). And since Skullitron is most likely not in the movie to begin with we're left believing he's just another Decepticon until some fiction says otherwise.

Emerje

The Dinobots aren't Autobots in the movies. They are Cybertron Knights. Yet they add the Autobot symbols to the toys to tell you their orientation of character. So yes, I agree.

[Deadput]

hes been confirmed to be a con

By who?

No one official anyways... and there is no faction symbols on the figure himself.

Just because Skullitron has that name doesn't make him a Decepticon and since he is just a remold of Steelbane I think he is also one of the Knights and is simply on neither side.

If only there was some sort of clue, like a giant faction symbol or something.




Emerje

Yeah and Infernocus has Autobot symbols despite the trailer clearly showing them to be a bunch of monsters.


It's a packaging thing and Skullitron is clearly one of the same knights Steelbane is part of so he can't be related to Megatron's Decepticons unless he joins them in the movie and it could always just a a two pack with Bomber Megatron or someone else.

Also character's without factions have been labeled as one or the other in their toys such as Lockdown and packaging mistakes are also a thing look at Tr Soundwave and Broadside's faction symbols on the top of their boxes.

[Bumblebee21]

the tr ones cant be compared.
all through cw and waves 1-2 of cw there was the autobot symbol
starting with wave 3 they changed it to the con symbol

[Deadput]

Wasn't Lockdown given a for the last movie, though?

Hasbro does feel a need slap faction symbols on everyone (Unicron sure isn't a Decepticon), but it is a good indicator of their alignment (good or evil). And since Skullitron is most likely not in the movie to begin with we're left believing he's just another Decepticon until some fiction says otherwise.

Emerje

There's like dozens of those knights in the film I'm pretty sure one of them is Skullitron or he is based off one of them even if he goes unnamed.

He's more likely to be in the film then Berserker.

[Deadput]

the tr ones cant be compared.
all through cw and waves 1-2 of cw there was the autobot symbol
starting with wave 3 they changed it to the con symbol

Yes they can their both packaging art from Hasbro products for main line toys.

I'm not going to ignore one just because it's "G1".

[Bumblebee21]

the tr ones cant be compared.
all through cw and waves 1-2 of cw there was the autobot symbol
starting with wave 3 they changed it to the con symbol

Yes they can their both packaging art from Hasbro products for main line toys.

I'm not going to ignore one just because it's "G1".

i didnt say its because its g1. its jon the packaging of all of them like that.
tr prime has an con symbol as well.

[Deadput]

the tr ones cant be compared.
all through cw and waves 1-2 of cw there was the autobot symbol
starting with wave 3 they changed it to the con symbol

Yes they can their both packaging art from Hasbro products for main line toys.

I'm not going to ignore one just because it's "G1".

i didnt say its because its g1. its jon the packaging of all of them like that.
tr prime has an con symbol as well.

Never said you did but I'm stating that I'm going to compare all of the recent packaging.

So what's different between your examples and TLK?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Hound's mask is hilarious and i love it! Plus he actually looks somewhat as round as he does in the movie

Also, this whole faction thing may be just strange, but we can't put it past Steelbane and Infernicus to be bots (or good guy aligned). The monsters that look like Infernicus are charging a purple eyed Prime, making me think they are meant to be good guys attacking an evil Prime, just dying in the process. And Steelbane appears to be the character on that one movie poster, so he could be considered good too. Just like how Skullitron could be the bad guy version of Steelbane seen punching Prime in trailers, hence bad guy aligned.

Also, I watched the Emgo review of Steelbane last night and he is a definite nope

[Bumblebee21]

Hound's mask is hilarious and i love it! Plus he actually looks somewhat as round as he does in the movie

Also, this whole faction thing may be just strange, but we can't put it past Steelbane and Infernicus to be bots (or good guy aligned). The monsters that look like Infernicus are charging a purple eyed Prime, making me think they are meant to be good guys attacking an evil Prime, just dying in the process. And Steelbane appears to be the character on that one movie poster, so he could be considered good too. Just like how Skullitron could be the bad guy version of Steelbane seen punching Prime in trailers, hence bad guy aligned.

Also, I watched the Emgo review of Steelbane last night and he is a definite nope

but infernocus is with quintessa and quintessa made prime prime.

yea the box ting is confusing

[Jelze Bunnycat]

the tr ones cant be compared.
all through cw and waves 1-2 of cw there was the autobot symbol
starting with wave 3 they changed it to the con symbol

Yes they can their both packaging art from Hasbro products for main line toys.

I'm not going to ignore one just because it's "G1".

i didnt say its because its g1. its jon the packaging of all of them like that.
tr prime has an con symbol as well.

Never said you did but I'm stating that I'm going to compare all of the recent packaging.

So what's different between your examples and TLK?

The point is we can't blindly trust the insignia shown anywhere on any given image to be correct or even to be associated with the figure in question.

The ones on the sides of the TR boxes are indeed all from Wave 3 on (in fact, Optimus Prime and Broadside are the only in that range), but the names on the bottom still show the correct one. The ones in the background of the TLK images seems to be random.

[Emerje]

Yeah and Infernocus has Autobot symbols despite the trailer clearly showing them to be a bunch of monsters.

Depends on how they play up the whole Autobot origin thing with Quintessa. If she considers herself the Autobot matriarch it would make sense for Infernocus to have an Autobot symbol even if he's evil.

It's a packaging thing and Skullitron is clearly one of the same knights Steelbane is part of so he can't be related to Megatron's Decepticons unless he joins them in the movie and it could always just a a two pack with Bomber Megatron or someone else.

Being a knight has absolutely nothing to do with factions in this movie, just look at Megatron himself.

Also character's without factions have been labeled as one or the other in their toys such as Lockdown and packaging mistakes are also a thing look at Tr Soundwave and Broadside's faction symbols on the top of their boxes.

That's not a packaging error. Waves 1 and 2 had Autobot symbols on all of the boxes, 3 and on have had Decepticon symbols.

Emerje

[Deadput]

Depends on how they play up the whole Autobot origin thing with Quintessa. If she considers herself the Autobot matriarch it would make sense for Infernocus to have an Autobot symbol even if he's evil.

Where the hell did Quintessa being an Autobot matriarch come from? Isn't she just a creator or someone who is aligned with them?

Being a knight has absolutely nothing to do with factions in this movie, just look at Megatron himself.

Well Megatron isn't one of those knights from the past now is he?

Skullitron and Steelbane are clearly part of the same group considering the trailers and their boxes both giving them the same jobs.

That's not a packaging error. Waves 1 and 2 had Autobot symbols on all of the boxes, 3 and on have had Decepticon symbols.

Point is not to trust random pictures on packaging.

[-Kanrabat-]

We have seen Armor Knight Turbo Changer Hound with all the other Transformers: the Last Knight toys at Toyfair, but we had yet to get any official images. Well, thanks to a tip from Seibertronian Scotty P, we now have images from Toysrus France. It is an early listing and no stock is available yet. What is fun to see here is that this simplified Hound has a totally different transformation scheme than the other new simplified Hound molds for this line where instead of his missile racks becoming his arms, they become his legs. While Megatron is getting a lot of love with new molds in this film, it seems the runner up would be Hound.

Well, that's a thing.
Guess I'll have to get for my Hound/Bulkhead shrine!

[Emerje]

Depends on how they play up the whole Autobot origin thing with Quintessa. If she considers herself the Autobot matriarch it would make sense for Infernocus to have an Autobot symbol even if he's evil.

Where the hell did Quintessa being an Autobot matriarch come from? Isn't she just a creator or someone who is aligned with them?

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Being a knight has absolutely nothing to do with factions in this movie, just look at Megatron himself.

Well Megatron isn't one of those knights from the past now is he?

Not one of the specific ones shown, no, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a knight in the past.

Skullitron and Steelbane are clearly part of the same group considering the trailers and their boxes both giving them the same jobs.

That doesn't mean they stayed on the same side in the story. Again, the leader of the Decepticons is also a knight of Cybertron, it doesn't prove anything.

That's not a packaging error. Waves 1 and 2 had Autobot symbols on all of the boxes, 3 and on have had Decepticon symbols.

Point is not to trust random pictures on packaging.

They aren't random and appear in two specific spots on the box where the character isn't shown. Show me the back of any wave 1 or 2 Premier figure box that has the wrong faction symbol behind the character and I'll concede that Skullitron and Infernocus have the wrong symbols behind them.

Emerje

[RAR]

All Steelbane requires is a little clear nail polish in his ball cups - hardly some dire crime considering how often that is the case in recent years.

Though it is a slight puzzle how the managed to get them "that weak" as that wasn't the case even on most Beast Wars toys and those are covered in ball joints.

[Va'al]

Some Australian news for the toy line for the live action Paramount movie Transformers: The Last Knight comes to use via Ozformers' griffin, who spotted some animated toy promotional posters around Westfield Centre. You can find out more info on the two clips, and their contents, below!

For those with a Westfield shopping centre near them, some people have been seeing this week, two short promo videos on their advertising screens, for the Transformers movie, featuring Deluxe Bumblebee (in one) and Voyager Optimus (in the other).

Both promo clips go for 10 seconds, starting off with the movie logo and its release date in Australia (June 22nd)... then it shows the feature character, morphing from the recent 3D movie promos on facebook into their first wave toy... running and transforming into vehicle mode, then transforming back to take place in a line-up of the six Deluxe and Voyager wave 1 toys.

These promo clips might show up on youtube or facebook by Hasbro or Paramount, but here is a taping of the two clips that I took today at the Garden City Westfield (outside Target)..