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[Bumblebee21]

it almost ruins the whole figure

...how?

because thats one of the main things about tlk hound. and its gone now

[Deadput]

In some of the recent trailers the updated shots of Hound also has the red cross removed from his robot mode.

So this probably is not only the toys but Hound in the film as well I knew this would happen eventually.

[-Kanrabat-]

In Reprolabels we trust.

This. Always.

[Carnivius_Prime]

In Reprolabels we trust.

This. Always.

Yep you can bet they'll sort it. I'm keenly waiting for them to release voyager Optimus Prime flame stickers.

[william-james88]

In some of the recent trailers the updated shots of Hound also has the red cross removed from his robot mode.

So this probably is not only the toys but Hound in the film as well I knew this would happen eventually.

Thanks, I was basing my analysis on the official shots of Hound so far. I had not noticed that it was removed from the recent trailers as well.

And Bumblebee21, while it doesnt ruin the figure to me, it does take away some nice detail that broke up all the same coloured plastic.

[Terrsolpix]

I'm probably in the minority, but I think removing the only uses of those colors makes it look superior. The shade of green and stark white really don't mix, at least in my opinion.

[Bumblebee21]

In some of the recent trailers the updated shots of Hound also has the red cross removed from his robot mode.

So this probably is not only the toys but Hound in the film as well I knew this would happen eventually.

Thanks, I was basing my analysis on the official shots of Hound so far. I had not noticed that it was removed from the recent trailers as well.

And Bumblebee21, while it doesnt ruin the figure to me, it does take away some nice detail that broke up all the same coloured plastic.

after hearing what deadput said it might not make me make anymore

[Kurona]

... Gotta be honest, from the pictures I thought this was the turbo changer. That is not the greatest deco.

[Prowl4]

Thought it was odd to give him medical symbols but then again he's probably going to do more medical work than ratchet did.

[griftimus prime]

better take them out of the movie too. we dont want people to get offended.

[Deadput]

Thought it was odd to give him medical symbols but then again he's probably going to do more medical work than ratchet did.

I know head canon's are not true and all but I just chalk it up to Ratchet getting rusty (literally) in his hands from age like from the MTMTE comics so he isn't as good as he used to be so I consider Ratchet to be more of a "knowledge" type doctor who tells you what your symptoms are and not as much as a physical one who saves your life.

What we do know is in movie 1 Ratchet's analysis of Bee's voicebox as well as Sam's uh pheromones, talked about the consequences of Optimus merging his Spark with the Allspark and presumably helped fix Bee's legs, In ROTF He told Jolt what to do with Optimus and Jetfire (in the novel he does the work himself) and he probably checked up on Prime after he died, In DOTM he provided analysis on Sentinel's state while on the moon with Optimus and presumably fixed Prime's arm after the movie.


So the problem isn't really that Ratceht doesn't do medical work but that most of hands on work takes place off screen and when it does it's not obvious lets hope Hound does otherwise in this movie.

[Deadput]

better take them out of the movie too. we dont want people to get offended.

They are since it's absent in the more recent Trailers.

I'm personally glad their removed from the helmet since that looks weird to me but it's a shame their not on his shoulders anymore.

[Evil Eye]

Well that sucks. I guess the Red Cross didn't want to be represented by a foul-mouthed bad-tempered obese robot 'nam veteran. Bloody spoilsports.

[Prowl4]

Thought it was odd to give him medical symbols but then again he's probably going to do more medical work than ratchet did.

I know head canon's are not true and all but I just chalk it up to Ratchet getting rusty (literally) in his hands from age like from the MTMTE comics so he isn't as good as he used to be so I consider Ratchet to be more of a "knowledge" type doctor who tells you what your symptoms are and not as much as a physical one who saves your life.

What we do know is in movie 1 Ratchet's analysis of Bee's voicebox as well as Sam's uh pheromones, talked about the consequences of Optimus merging his Spark with the Allspark and presumably helped fix Bee's legs, In ROTF He told Jolt what to do with Optimus and Jetfire (in the novel he does the work himself) and he probably checked up on Prime after he died, In DOTM he provided analysis on Sentinel's state while on the moon with Optimus and presumably fixed Prime's arm after the movie.


So the problem isn't really that Ratceht doesn't do medical work but that most of hands on work takes place off screen and when it does it's not obvious lets hope Hound does otherwise in this movie.

Ratchet was medically a problem. Movie 1 he had a laser point at bee,he guides ironhide's canon to the window of Sams house and says "yeah yeah yeah" when ironhide asks to take out the parents, when bees legs blew off sam called him nowhere to be seen, also he's not carrying jazz which just seems like he didn't try and gave up. Movie 2 particularly in the desert he just watches jetfire kill himself without even offering to help not to mention when prime dies his first thought is let's go off world. Movie 3 again he's more interested in shooting things up.

Hound and ratchet are looking to be similar in that they don't care about being an actual medic and are more interested in shooting things up.

[Deadput]

Ratchet was medically a problem. Movie 1 he had a laser point at bee,he guides ironhide's canon to the window of Sams house and says "yeah yeah yeah" when ironhide asks to take out the parents, when bees legs blew off sam called him nowhere to be seen, also he's not carrying jazz which just seems like he didn't try and gave up. Movie 2 particularly in the desert he just watches jetfire kill himself without even offering to help not to mention when prime dies his first thought is let's go off world. Movie 3 again he's more interested in shooting things up.

Hound and ratchet are looking to be similar in that they don't care about being an actual medic and are more interested in shooting things up.

What was wrong with the laser pointer it was a medical tool?

Starscram and Brawl were attacking the group at that point I don't think Ratchet had time to check on Bee and Ironhide is carrying Jazz because he is the stronger of the two and it's obvious he tried because Ironhide himself said "We couldn't save him" so that means he obviously tried plus it seems obvious Megatron instantly killed Jazz since he is never shown moving around and he looks pretty dead dangling in Mega's hands lifelessly.

Jetfire chose to kill himself that was his own damn choice he wanted to sacrifice himself plus Scroponok did quite the number on Jetfire so he was probably dying you know from having more then his side being destroyed.

When did Ratchet show interest in shooting things up in DOTM?

Never that's when

[Deadput]

Hey Will not sure if you care but this dude is copying your news post and posting it on another site without giving you credit.

And posting it in an unrelated thread as well weirdly enough.

[Deadput]

Went through the image galleries and I was a bit incorrect.

Their not gone in the recent trailer but they are color edited to be dark green but it's still removed from the helmet it seems.

I did not notice this earlier cause I'm near sighted and have a bit of minor color blindness to some greens and only saw the cross now that I'm looking at it closely and not in a moving image.



Edit: in other news I can say for sure that the "planet" is Cybertron since we got the honeycombs everywhere and that poster for the Toys R Us Cybertron thing mentions that Cybertron transforms as well.

[Bumblebee21]

wonder why there is no lisence on barricade

is he an actual car in the movie or a custom type car

[Overcracker]

wonder why there is no lisence on barricade

is he an actual car in the movie or a custom type car

In the movie he's an actual Ford Mustang GT500 Police Type.

The toy however looks like a mix between the 2017 Dodge Charger Police Pursuit version and the Ford Police Interceptor but not the actual Mustang in the Movie.

Charger Pursuit

Ford Interceptor

Barricade Toy


Barricade Movie


The toy is ambiguous enough of a car to not require a license from anyone. It's definitely not a Mustang, but not a Charger or the Interceptor either.

[Bumblebee21]

interesting. thanks overcracker

[EunuchRon]

This is stupid. Like they didn't get the logo from somewhere else. Cross. Uh... Romans invented that. Red. Blood, right? You know, like Jesus? Ok, so the cross looks more Greek Orthodox, but seems like the J man kind of made it popular as a symbol. Maybe I'm wrong, but if they already copied someone else they got no reason to moan over it?

I mean, you think people looking at "thing with red cross helps me" would be something they like. "Oh, I'm hurt! I should get the box with the red cross on it!" So like, in real life don't people get help from the Red Cross? Makes no sense to me. I think I'd want people going after my symbol. I'd want people to see it everywhere, knowing "hey, that's what you go to for help!" I ain't the brightest bulb, but I think they're just dumb for acting like that.

[Terrsolpix]

This is stupid. Like they didn't get the logo from somewhere else. Cross. Uh... Romans invented that. Red. Blood, right? You know, like Jesus? Ok, so the cross looks more Greek Orthodox, but seems like the J man kind of made it popular as a symbol. Maybe I'm wrong, but if they already copied someone else they got no reason to moan over it?

I mean, you think people looking at "thing with red cross helps me" would be something they like. "Oh, I'm hurt! I should get the box with the red cross on it!" So like, in real life don't people get help from the Red Cross? Makes no sense to me. I think I'd want people going after my symbol. I'd want people to see it everywhere, knowing "hey, that's what you go to for help!" I ain't the brightest bulb, but I think they're just dumb for acting like that.

If you aren't the brightest bulb, they're branding and marketing department(s) must be the burnt out bulbs that somehow got put back in the box.

[Bronzewolf]

Barricade and Road Block are finally on the beat together.




The entire Bronzewolf police force. (Side note, Barricade and legend class groove work REALLY good together)

[Autobot Roadburn]

Found all the wave 1 deluxes at retail, so being the impulsive person I am I picked up Berserker - I want at least one minion for Megatron when I get him. I really wish he didn't have rubber parts for his hands, shoulder spikes, dreadlocks AND weapons - since it's getting warmer I'm really concerned about their longevity - and his vehicle mode is a huge pain to tab together. On the other hand, his robot mode looks really cool and has a nice range of movement, so I'll probably keep him in that mode most of the time. I do want to paint him and bring out those little details like I will with voyager Prime, and I'll post some pictures when I do.

[Emerje]

If they're going to remove the cross then at the very least they could have given Hound regular Autobot symbols. Or as pointed out above the green crosses in the movie would have looked pretty nice.

I'm probably in the minority, but I think removing the only uses of those colors makes it look superior. The shade of green and stark white really don't mix, at least in my opinion.

But that's the whole point of the Red Cross symbol, to be highly visible and instantly recognizable from a distance. It should contrast with the rest of the colors.

Emerje