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[Solrac333]

$30 voyagers? I guess I won't getting any.

[Nexus Knight]

...does this mean TF prices are going up again??? I'm just now becoming okay w/ the 15$ Deluxes and 25$ Voyagers. Of course, the only movie toy I own is the SS Camaro Bumblebee for AOE and I didn't actually buy that one. I mainly buy Generations toys, so I don't know if prices are different.

[Braker]

I need this... It's everything I've always wanted. And that Barricade, if we are getting it. But man, would I love a Masterpiece Blackout... He was our introduction to this universe, after all, and what a badass he was... Til he got shot in the crotch, of course.

[Insurgent]

That voyager looks nice. I was wanting a voyager of this version of Prime for AOE, but the only one was that strange one with the huge backpack and trailer gimmick. Glad to see my patience is paying off. But.... I'm not paying 30 quid for it. So I'll get it when it goes on sale for something stupidly cheap, like all the wave 1 voyagers end up doing.

And unless we get an MP Barricade, I think that'll be all I get in terms of movie toys.

[Evil Eye]

Shadow Spark Optimus Prime looks good...in robot mode. In vehicle mode he looks like a badly-painted custom.

Regarding the prices, bear in mind that in this country, Deluxes are now £20 and Voyagers £30, so you guys can consider yourselves lucky. Especially as this price hike means that the prices over here are almost certainly going up too.

[Kurona]

Short answer: Soon! Longer answer: The Masterpiece Bumblebee figure was created for ages 8 and up, and is slated for release in summer 2017. It has an MSRP of $79.99.

This bit makes me laugh. Yes, that's right, give your $80 Masterpiece figure to your 8 year old.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm still really stoked for an MP Bumblebee. I will get this thing, That is fact.

Although, seeing as how he is based on his first movie body, I imagine that means Prime will also be based on his first movie self, either as another release of the RotF leader or as a new figure similar to it. If that happens, no thanks, I'm good. I still want a really good knight Prime, but if it is his first movie self, at least it definitely saves me some money for a potential really good Barricade (if that is him)

[william-james88]

I'm still really stoked for an MP Bumblebee. I will get this thing, That is fact.

Although, seeing as how he is based on his first movie body

... in bot mode only. For some reason, they didnt give him the right car mode.

[Sigma Magnus]

I'm still really stoked for an MP Bumblebee. I will get this thing, That is fact.

Although, seeing as how he is based on his first movie body

... in bot mode only. For some reason, they didnt give him the right car mode.

How so?

[william-james88]

I'm still really stoked for an MP Bumblebee. I will get this thing, That is fact.

Although, seeing as how he is based on his first movie body

... in bot mode only. For some reason, they didnt give him the right car mode.

How so?

in the movie, BB is a concept camarro, and instead of doing that they gave him the 2010 camaro model.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm still really stoked for an MP Bumblebee. I will get this thing, That is fact.

Although, seeing as how he is based on his first movie body

... in bot mode only. For some reason, they didnt give him the right car mode.

How so?

in the movie, BB is a concept camarro, and instead of doing that they gave him the 2007 camaro model,so the actual car that was out that year.

That car mode is identical to the one he got in the 2007 movie. I'm not really sure why you think they're different?

[william-james88]

That car mode is identical to the one he got in the 2007 movie. I'm not really sure why you think they're different?

Because they are.

In the film, he transforms into a 2006 concept camaro, but this toy transforms into a 2010-2013 Camaro SS.

[Deadput]

The cars hardly look different in those photos so who cares really?

[william-james88]

The cars hardly look different in those photos so who cares really?

I know I dont, I was just reporting it in case anyone did.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

That car mode is identical to the one he got in the 2007 movie. I'm not really sure why you think they're different?

Because they are.

In the film, he transforms into a 2006 concept camaro, but this toy transforms into a 2010-2013 Camaro SS.

Much like in the first Transformers live action movie, Bumblebee converts from his dynamic, Autobot scout form into a 2006 Chevy Camaro concept car.

[Jeddostotle7]

That car mode is identical to the one he got in the 2007 movie. I'm not really sure why you think they're different?

Because they are.

In the film, he transforms into a 2006 concept camaro, but this toy transforms into a 2010-2013 Camaro SS.

Much like in the first Transformers live action movie, Bumblebee converts from his dynamic, Autobot scout form into a 2006 Chevy Camaro concept car.

Some of the details look closer to the 2010-2013 Camaro SS, but as many, if not more, are closer to the actual '06 Concept Camaro.

[Deadput]

The cars hardly look different in those photos so who cares really?

I know I dont, I was just reporting it in case anyone did.

I don't know what to say to the people who actually care about minor differences most people would never notice.


At least he doesn't transform into something drastically different like lets say this




Also for the people who are going to complain about the price this is the normal price for Hasbro masterpiece car bots.

[ScottyP]

So wait, this is a new mold? I've been out of the movie toy game for awhile, just assumed this was the Leader or Battle Ops bee done up fancier but no, this looks new. And real nice too. I'm gonna assume the fingers move individually with that 31 points of articulation line.

[Sabrblade]

So wait, this is a new mold?

Yep. Completely new mold based specifically on the 2007 Movie 1 Bumblebee's CG model, and seems to be around the size of the G1 MP Autobot Cars.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

O, don't mind me, just leaving this for you all to consider:



Slug was a Ceratopsian. Age of Extinction has exclusives as redecos of older figures. Thus:

[Carnivius_Prime]

Yeah, you know what? I'll very likely buy this Bumblebee. It's a gorgeous figure of one of my all time fave TF designs and the most accurate one he's ever had most likely.


"Does it convert?" "Does it ever!" No, it transforms. IT TRANSFORMS. SAY IT! hehe. yeah i know the reasons why they don't but it still amuses me.

[Jeddostotle7]

"Does it convert?" "Does it ever!" No, it transforms. IT TRANSFORMS. SAY IT! hehe. yeah i know the reasons why they don't but it still amuses me.

I've never been entirely clear on why they can't say "transform". What's stopping them?

[RAR]

The differences I can see between the Concept and that toy are the shape of the bonnet bulges are different - the wheels are slightly inaccurate the wing mirrors are like the production car. It may be the wrong shade of yellow too.

Also It makes you wonder if Takara make their own version would it have bonus shoulder rocket launchers on it (perhaps as an Amazon exclusive) ?

Also the original (and the production model) have a black B pillar and the toy has a yellow one.

"Does it convert?" "Does it ever!" No, it transforms. IT TRANSFORMS. SAY IT! hehe. yeah i know the reasons why they don't but it still amuses me.

I've never been entirely clear on why they can't say "transform". What's stopping them?

Perhaps this will help :

From The Wiki : http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trademark

Hasbro has realised that using the word "transform" as a verb to describe the process of changing a Transformers toy from one mode into another one would make the brand name "Transformers" descriptive, making the mark indefensible. The end result would have been a loss of the mark Transformers as a registered trademark, allowing competitors to use it as a generic term for their shape-shifting robot toys and thus creating further confusion among parents when asked to buy a Transformer.

As a consequence, the use of "transform" as a verb when being used to describe Transformers product is almost strictly forbidden in certain written materials:[4] If it's a toy that "converts", Hasbro can argue that Transformers is not merely a descriptive term, thus allowing for trademark protection to persist. Although this mandate does not extend to character dialogue within fiction, synonyms like "convert" (or simply "change") are used in Hasbro's own products (like packaging call-outs and instructions) and in licensees' products (such as game guides). Even the novels Transformers: Exodus and Transformers: Exiles, unusually for actual fiction, avoid using "transform" as a verb - always replaced with either "proto-form" (the first usage of such term as a verb) or "alt-form", depending on the mode into which a Cybertronian is shifting.

As a matter of fact, "Transformer" (specifically "with a capital initial") is listed in the Oxford English Dictionary as a description of "a type of children's toy, first manufactured in Japan, consisting of a model robot which can be transformed into another toy". However, since the term is identified as a "proprietary name" and Hasbro is specifically mentioned in the name etymology, the entry makes it pretty clear that the term is not a catch-all description of a general product type, but tied to a specific manufacturer, hence posing no threat to Hasbro's exclusive claim of the trademark.[5] The fact that the entry has been in the dictionary since 1993 also implies that Hasbro has never seen any need for intervention. (The same dictionary also has an entry for Mattel's "Barbie", for that matter.)
Many Hasbro competitors have used "transform" as a verb on their toy packaging in the past. More recently, however, some such as Mattel and LEGO have changed (ha ha) to using terms like "convert" and "shift" instead. Whether this is due to Hasbro legal intervention is, at the moment, pure conjecture.

[Stuartmaximus]

First...in a previous TF5 TRU listing it was two different scales of Cybertron toy that we're getting...& now in this new UK toy listing.....it's now an RC Earth!(so...is it Cybertron or Earth toys we're getting? really confusing )
http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/transf ... dule/12882

[RAR]

From the product descriptions, movie tag lines on the TV spots and the trailer it seems something that might be what is left of Cybertron is wrapping tendrils around the entire Earth. (inspired by Independence day 2 I guess - only more so).

But that said what is wrapped around the earth may not be Cybertron alone and there is likely more to it than that.