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[william-james88]

So neither of these two are new molds? Optimus looks like a straight up redeco of TF4 Prime and Bee looks like the older masterpiece from around ROTF.

Its the same toy. I dont know if this means it will be reissued or if its just there for show. Its the same box as the older one too.

Here is our original article on that toy from 2010

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... bee/20462/

[dragons]

So neither of these two are new molds? Optimus looks like a straight up redeco of TF4 Prime and Bee looks like the older masterpiece from around ROTF.

I should have known before I clicked article it bee repaints of two
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[Actar]

Is it the same toy, though? All other sources point to Bee being a completely new mold, or at least a heavy, HEAVY retool. A longer neck with collar pieces, extra two back wings, no cannon/guns with proper articulated hands, no electronics, etc... Look, the wheels are no longer at the ankles even and the shin guards end at the same length on both sides. None of the parts look to be shared and the angles and contours of all the pieces are different. They'll obviously look similar because they're the same character, but there a ton of minor differences here and there that seem to indicate a completely new figure.

The box is just a picture of the old "Masterpiece" Movie line with Starscream as the first release. Why is it attached to this figure? I haven't seen the box picture anywhere else, nor have I seen it being referred to by the "MPM-2 monicker" outside of the box.

[Lackadaisical]

That is Battle Ops Bumblebee I think, by the right hand, so not the Leader of hasbro but a bigger fig, not scaled to none other of the movies. Even tough perhaps one of the best BBB around.

The Optimus looked neat and expensive, until the wheels look backpacked... That looks just awful no matter how great the front is.

[Actar]

The toy in the picture was mistransformed! The wheels at the side of Bee's legs fold down and sit in his ankles just like in the movie!

That's it. I'm buying two.

[william-james88]

The toy in the picture was mistransformed! The wheels at the side of Bee's legs fold down and sit in his ankles just like in the movie!

That's it. I'm buying two.

Does that mean that is the same toy afterall? And if so, are we to assum they are simply rereleasing him? Could it be that he is just there as a reminder of his previous look?

[william-james88]

Ok, so it has differences from that original mold but it is still based on it right?

Also, I just wanted to point out that the Optimus redeco makes no sense for this movie line. His body changed at the end of AOE and that is reflected in the leader retool from Takara. This toy, being for The Last Knight should use that mold to at least reflect those changes. It could have beena chance for Hasbro to release that retool. But no, same leader mold again.

[Actar]

Ok, so it has differences from that original mold but it is still based on it right?

It is definitely hard to tell, because it's the same character, but I'm putting my money on a new mold as it doesn't seem to share any parts with the previous figure.

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They talk about the figure in this press conference/presentation. It's a new line of Masterpiece movie figures, it's based on the first movie appearance and it seems that the figure will have diecast in it as well.

Also, I just wanted to pint out that the Optimus redeco makes no sense for this movie line. His body changed at the end of AOE and that is reflected in the leader retool from Takara. This toy, being for The Last Knight should use that mold to at least reflect those changes. It could have beena chance for Hasbro to release that retool. But no, same leader mold again.

Agreed 100%. Hopefully this doesn't mean that we won't be getting a new Leader figure down the line.

[Houstonian Prime]

I hope this isn't a sign of what's to come from this next movie. Seeing these two makes me a little weary. A simple repaint to AOE Leader Optimus Prime, which in my opinion wasn't a great figure to begin with. Another ROTF/DOTM Bumblebee. I'm really hoping Hot Rod isn't just a repaint of AOE Deluxe Lockdown, and we get a new mold for Deluxe Drift. This style of marketing is pure evil, using people's anticipation as a ploy to dump off some older, less desirable figures; at a much higher price...

[william-james88]

Hasbro just sent us a message confirming what we saw this morning and giving us more detail. As it turns out, that is indeed a new Movie Masterpiece Bumblebee, numbered at MPM-3. It is done to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the first film. More linked to the new film, The Last Knight, is the Leader Optimus Redeco with new weapons. Both seem to be Asian editions so it is currently unkown if they will be sold in the west at big box retail. Below is all the info we have from Hasbro, including the prices and official stock images.

Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Leader Shadow Spark Optimus Prime

(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $69.99/Available: April 2017)

The explosive Transformers saga continues with Transformers: The Last Knight, and this Asia-Edition Premier Edition Leader Class Shadow Spark Optimus Prime figure allows fans to bring the action home with them. The large-scale figure features incredibly intricate space deco and purple eyes inspired by the movie and converts between robot and truck mode in 20 steps. This 9-inch Optimus Prime figure also comes equipped with two space weapons.








Masterpiece Movie Series Bumblebee MPM-3 Figure

(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $79.99/Available: July 2017)

This premium movie Bumblebee MPM-3 figure from the Transformers Masterpiece series brings the 10th anniversary of the 1st Transformers movie to life with this film-version of the iconic Autobot scout. This figure includes stunning intricate detailing and 33 steps of articulation, as well as a flip-down battle mask and Chevrolet Camaro design. Whether he’s cruising the highway as a slick Chevrolet Camaro or facing Decepticons in battle, Bumblebee is one of the bravest bots in the universe.

[Overcracker]

It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

The back of the figure is near identical. Same backpack, transformation panels, legs etc... all the same. Even the same sword.

I'm calling a slight retool at best:

[william-james88]

It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

Its just a redeco, we wrote as such in the news post.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ece/37095/

[Overcracker]

It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

Its just a redeco, we wrote as such in the news post.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ece/37095/

Missed the news post. Just went for the thread here.

[Sabrblade]

It is baffling that they went to such lengths to make that neat looking deco and didn't use the retooled Armor Knight version that is more movie-accurate than Hasbro's original version that was instead based more on earlier AOE concept art.

[Seibertron]

I'm fairly certain that Bumblebee is either a new mold or, at the very least, it's not the Battle Ops Bumblebee/MPM-2 Bumblebee mold.

[Targetmaster Kup]

Let's hope these wave are quick and are done quickly.

[Overcracker]

The fully lit stock pictures make the color scheme look quite a bit more bland than the original reveal pics did.

Those arms look super bare. And the rust on the chest looks very much out of place with the shiny blue plastic around.

[Bumblebee21]

I'm fairly certain that Bumblebee is either a new mold or, at the very least, it's not the Battle Ops Bumblebee/MPM-2 Bumblebee mold.

im pretty sure its a retooled dotm version

[RAR]

The amusing thing is that someone like Wei Jiang can easily copy the "Nemesis" Optimus Prime deco onto their superior Mould and it would look a lot better too - there is a very premium light up one they keep showing - I do wonder if they just use that for promotional displays or plan to release it.

I think Optimus is going to be 3 different colours in this Movie - initially he will be iced up but look like he did in AOE then he will be this darker muted banged up look with purple eyes (suggestive of Nemesis Prime) and then he might get the Silver Knight Optimus deco they crapped out on from the last Movie - as I've seen a fair bit of promotional stuff for The Last Knight showing the silver deco - so there must be a reason for that.

[MaverickPrime]

Why does everyone asume Bumblebee is a retool? Look at the near perfect proportions, DOTM Bee looked quite clunky, this one looks fit, the wheels ARE the ankles instead of being at the side, the front of the car compresses, the hands are articulated (and I'm pretty sure the wrists can swivel) AND THEY FINALLY GAVE HIM THE LITTLE WINGS!!!(upside down, but meeeeh)

[william-james88]

I've seen a fair bit of promotional stuff for The Last Knight showing the silver deco - so there must be a reason for that.

yeah, the reason is early on in the development, back when the movie makers were giving the info to Hasbro to plan out the toyline, Optimus was supposed to become a silver knight at the end. However, the dropped the idea during production and his only change is his chest and forearms.

Poor Target, they went all in on that Silver Optimus concept.

[Bumblebee21]

yep looking at it more that bee is definetly looking like a retool of the dotm leader version

[Stuartmaximus]

It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

The back of the figure is near identical. Same backpack, transformation panels, legs etc... all the same. Even the same sword.

I'm calling a slight retool at best:

It seems to be! but seeing as this is the Dark Energon(or Shadow Spark as they are officially calling it) version....i guess they were going for a kind of Nemesis dark tone style of paint scheme.

[william-james88]

yep looking at it more that bee is definetly looking like a retool of the dotm leader version

Do you think that retooling make it worth double what that figure's price was?

[SlyTF1]

There's a Masterpiece movie line!? Ok, now I have to get a job.