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Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:19 pm

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Bronzewolf wrote:Seibertronians, we have some additional details on the newly-announced Transformers 5: The Last Knight Optimus Prime Toy. Coming from a post on the official Transformers Instagram, we have an additional shot as well as the full official product name of the first TLK action figure. It seems the figure will have more detail work than standard figures, inspired by Prime's movie paintwork. Take a look at the New "Premier Edition Voyager Optimus Prime" figure below, and tell us if you think this new "Premier Edition" Branding will become a new sublime for the movie figures.
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EEsh, and here I was hoping we would see a premium version of this toy. But no, it IS the premium version #-o
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:20 pm

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It looks decent.

Am I interpreting this right: this is like the First edition toys from Prime and that first Leader Prime from AoE, and another, different retail version will come later?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:32 pm

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Madeus Prime wrote:Bit of a backpack, but honestly this figure looks pretty good, especially in contrast to the crap ones from AOE. I might pick him up for the comic.


Contrasting it with aoe (other than the excellent evasion mode version) is damning it with faint praise. I don't think it looks very good, but it's a single pic, I'll wait for more to judge.

I dont know man, I have never ever heard anyone call AD 31 Armour Knight Prime crap, and it totally counts as an AOE Prime. In fact, 85% of amazon reviews on that toy wee 5 stars https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Adv ... merReviews

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That being said, I think there is great potential for this toy, but the lesser backpack can only go so far when it looks this bland.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Madeus Prime » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:44 pm

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Optimum Supreme wrote:Contrasting it with aoe (other than the excellent evasion mode version) is damning it with faint praise. I don't think it looks very good, but it's a single pic, I'll wait for more to judge.

All I'm saying is it isn't this:
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william-james88 wrote:I dont know man, I have never ever heard anyone call AD 31 Armour Knight Prime crap, and it totally counts as an AOE Prime.

I totally forgot about that, and yeah, he's a beautiful figure. But he does share the retail release's backpack...
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william-james88 wrote:That being said, I think there is great potential for this toy, but the lesser backpack can only go so far when it looks this bland.

I agree. I just was stating that for the backpack, it's the best toy release we've seen of his post-AOE appearance. Strictly for the backpack. I agree that it looks only fair, not great.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:07 pm

I have a normal Retailer Leader Prime that I painted up a bit and the enhanced takara one and frankly they don't look hugely different - except for the few more flames I'd not got around to adding.

But looking at the unaltered Prime - yeah he is a little plain looking - that was why I attacked mine with a paint brush and added a great deal of silver to him.

The main issue with the mould family i'd say is the backpack - something the Overscale KBB Knock Off addresses by making it removable.

He's miles better than Grimlock anyway - I actually consider the mould kinda complementary to the KO Hound toys though.

But it's not like i'd be encouraging people to buy one with huge enthusiasm. Heck I'd say spend your money on the overscale KO as that is at least bigger and has some metal in it as well as the premium deco.
But as I bought my Takara one from Lena (boxed) it was pretty cheap for both of them - (both came from Lena) as being in the UK there was hardly anywhere to buy them aside from online.

I don't really think I can even have a huge opinion dump on AOE simply as I have hardly any of it other than some Onestep and the Optimus toys.
I don't even have an AOE Dlx Bumblebee.

I have tinkered with the idea of buying the Dinobots from time to time though - since they are only Deluxes the only reason I've not done so is I keep thinking - for the same money I can get a bigger partly metal KO version that is a bit more in keeping with their size in the Movie... so that put me off buying them at all I guess.

I never bought the Autobots as I was thinking I'd kinda like the boxed set of Autobots - but I never really saw it for sale so I never ended up with that either.

To be honest I tend to forget to go toy hunting for Movie toys at all for months at a time - despite not really having any great bias against them.
yet I also don't want them so badly that I'd often prioritise them over other things I suppose.

I tend to think... yes I'll get those AOE Movie toys - but it might be AFTER I get around to chasing a lot of other things 1st. It probably doesn't help that I've not seen the Movie all the way through either.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:17 pm

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I'm sure "Premier Edition" just means it'll be the first figure out in the line like the "First Edition" Optimus Prime we got from AOE and not like the "First Edition" line we got for TF Prime.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby transformnerd114 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:21 pm

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He looks pretty good. He also seems to be an EXTENSIVE remold of AOE Voyager Galvatron, based on the way the wheels on his legs are, as well as his shoulder armor, and even the backpack is reminiscent of Galvatron's. :-?
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New Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Optimus Prime

Postby Va'al » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:34 am

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Though not the original source of the images (looks like they're actually from Snapchat), Twitter user @astrotrain has shared two new angles of the recently officially revealed Voyager Optimus Prime figure from the upcoming Transformers: The Last Knight live-action movie toyline. The images of the Premier Edition Autobot leader are mirrored below, and the conversation is already bubbling - join in at the Energon Pub!

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Hero Alpha » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:40 am

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Having the smokestacks be hollow looks horrible in robot mode. When you have something that prevalent and noticeable in both modes, it needs to be filled in.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:50 am

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So those hps really have 2 different grey plastics, thats too bad.

Paint looks better than what I previously thought though.

Also WOW, that guy is really into Taylor Swift. Reminds me of my crush on Michelle Branch back in highschool.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:12 pm

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william-james88 wrote:So those hps really have 2 different grey plastics, thats too bad.

Hasbro seems to be having some issues lately in matching shades between two different types of plastic. Like how Wolfwire has thinner yellow plastic (shoulders and legs) in one shade while the thicker plastic used for structure (torso, pelvis, and elbows) is slightly different. Wolfwire's bicep swivel is made of two obviously different shades of yellow just like this Prime's thigh swivel.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Fc203 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:06 pm

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby bluecatcinema » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:12 pm

At least they reduced the "backpack" a little on this one.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:13 pm

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Are those your pics? if so, could you take a pick of his back? And side?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby feifangongzi » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:30 pm

All movie toy line designer should be Fired! How ugly is this robot! :michaelbay:
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Better Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Premier Edition Optimus Prime

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As an update to our previous story about Transformers: The Last Knight Optimus Prime, in his toy form, fellow Seibertronian Fc203 headed to Snapchat to grab some screenshots for the update from Hasbro - check the better quality of multiple angles below!

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:22 pm

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feifangongzi wrote:All movie toy line designer should be Fired! How ugly is this robot! :michaelbay:

But that would mean firing the best designer of all time, Hasui, the guy who made all those amazing MP toys (from MP 10 all the way to BB, I think). He also designed movie toys, like HFTD Leader Starscream.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby hinomars19 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:56 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
feifangongzi wrote:All movie toy line designer should be Fired! How ugly is this robot! :michaelbay:

But that would mean firing the best designer of all time, Hasui, the guy who made all those amazing MP toys (from MP 10 all the way to BB, I think). He also designed movie toys, like HFTD Leader Starscream.


Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception) RiD toys was absurd.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:56 pm

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It's kinda growing on me but ... I don't feel this screams "The Last Knight" as it looks too "Age of Extinction" to me. I guess I'm use to seeing a different look with each movie and this one doesn't seem to be doing that.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:03 pm

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Burn wrote:It's kinda growing on me but ... I don't feel this screams "The Last Knight" as it looks too "Age of Extinction" to me. I guess I'm use to seeing a different look with each movie and this one doesn't seem to be doing that.


Could that be a good thing, maybe? A sign of some sort of continuity or consistency? :-?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:13 pm

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hinomars19 wrote:Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception)

They didnt, he went from movie toys (2007) to MPs (2011) and still kept designing every starscream ever (aside from the MP, ironically). Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.

And you thought it was absurd before.

If anyone cares, here are the Movie toys made by the same designer of MP 10 and MP Soundawve and MP Wheeljack and on and on:

Backfire (Human Alliance)/Spike Witwicky
Soundwave (Human Alliance)/Mr. Gould
Starscream (Leader class)
Barricade (Human Alliance)/Frenzy
Jazz (Human Alliance)/Captain Lennox
Bumblebee (Human Alliance)/Sam Witwicky
ROTF Sideswipe (Deluxe class)
ROTF Starscream (Voyager class)
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first movie Barricade (Deluxe class)
first movie Jazz (Deluxe class)
first movie Ratchet (Voyager class)
first movie Starscream (Voyager class) (with Eric Siebenaler)

also, I just realized he designed Animated Lockdown, he really is the genius behind all my favourite toys.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:46 pm

william-james88 wrote:
hinomars19 wrote:Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception)

They didnt, he went from movie toys (2007) to MPs (2011) and still kept designing every starscream ever (aside from the MP, ironically). Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.

And you thought it was absurd before.

If anyone cares, here are the Movie toys made by the same designer of MP 10 and MP Soundawve and MP Wheeljack and on and on:

Backfire (Human Alliance)/Spike Witwicky
Soundwave (Human Alliance)/Mr. Gould
Starscream (Leader class)
Barricade (Human Alliance)/Frenzy
Jazz (Human Alliance)/Captain Lennox
Bumblebee (Human Alliance)/Sam Witwicky
ROTF Sideswipe (Deluxe class)
ROTF Starscream (Voyager class)
first movie Arcee (Deluxe class)
first movie Barricade (Deluxe class)
first movie Jazz (Deluxe class)
first movie Ratchet (Voyager class)
first movie Starscream (Voyager class) (with Eric Siebenaler)

also, I just realized he designed Animated Lockdown, he really is the genius behind all my favourite toys.


They do the best they can with the movie designs. They went nuts with revenge of the fallen for making them way too complex for kids. That's why dark of the moon was very...well it was what it was. I don't mind the movie lines, they are what they are and I don't buy a movie figure unless it really speaks to me.

If you don't like movie figures just don't buy them. It's simple as that.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby AlbimusPrime » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:49 pm

Maybe the painting is not perfect, but this figure looks AMAZING! :BOT:
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby hinomars19 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:14 pm

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hinomars19 wrote:Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception)

They didnt, he went from movie toys (2007) to MPs (2011) and still kept designing every starscream ever (aside from the MP, ironically). Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.


Bell whistles, yes, my mistake. I did know that it was Rid, just made a doozy since I knew he had done movie stuff.

My point still stands though; the designers are not to blame if a toy is bad/ too simple, etc Hasui's repertoire alone proves that.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:21 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.

WOW. They couldn't make a bigger step down if they tried.

This figure's looking pretty nice; as someone who doesn't even like the movie aesthetic. Really liking the shape of the head.
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