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[partholon]

Guess we can now more confidently consider that thing to be Cybertron itself and not Unicron or any other planet.

might be, might not.

the lads prime kills at the end look an awfull lot like the "disciples of unicron" from the aul g1 comics.

Those guys share Steelbane's and Skullitron's design.

they look more like a pack of "infernocus"'s

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Darn it prime, Bumblebee JUST got those wings back. . .

that was actually the very thing I was about to post. every trailer just results in Bee getting mroe and more beat up. Poor guy can't catch a break!

And those guys at the end really did look like a pack of Infernoci

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Also, anyone else notice Dragonstorm was the one dragging Prime along around 38 seconds left in the trailer? Prime was being drug along, you could see it was a dragon tail, and then a massive foot stepped down in front of him

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

Darn it prime, Bumblebee JUST got those wings back. . .

that was actually the very thing I was about to post. every trailer just results in Bee getting mroe and more beat up. Poor guy can't catch a break!

And those guys at the end really did look like a pack of Infernoci

Please don't die, Bumblebee. . .

Also, I'm thinking that the reason Lennox talks to Megatron in that one shot is to get him to take out Optimus for them since no one else can.

[Kurona]

The next movie is literally called 'The Bumblebee Movie', so even if he wasn't the huge big advertising monster of a main character he's become... there's no possibility he'll die. Not permanently, at least.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Darn it prime, Bumblebee JUST got those wings back. . .

that was actually the very thing I was about to post. every trailer just results in Bee getting mroe and more beat up. Poor guy can't catch a break!

And those guys at the end really did look like a pack of Infernoci

Please don't die, Bumblebee. . .

Also, I'm thinking that the reason Lennox talks to Megatron in that one shot is to get him to take out Optimus for them since no one else can.

I'm not entirely sure. Megatron keeps appearing with that red bit on his helmet as well, the same way Optimus does. I can't tell if that is supposed to signify something like the spot indicates that person is supposed to be under creator control or what. those 2 are the only ones who have it.

Though I wouldn't doubt enlisting Megatron to stop the apocalypse, though I can't see why Megatron himself wouldn't want Cybertron to live and kill Earth

[Seibertron]

I keep thinking that Megatron will be the last knight and that this movie will be a redemption story for him to bring him more in lines like IDW Megatron. He has to become "good" to stop Optimus Prime. Doesn't want to be the last knight, but he has to become the last knight. This theory also fits the "worlds collide" theme (evil becomes good, good becomes evil) and the "last knight" theme.

Time will tell.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

The next movie is literally called 'The Bumblebee Movie', so even if he wasn't the huge big advertising monster of a main character he's become... there's no possibility he'll die. Not permanently, at least.

Yeah, you're right. Hound's going to need some serious duct tape to get those wings back on though.

[Seibertron]

The next movie is literally called 'The Bumblebee Movie', so even if he wasn't the huge big advertising monster of a main character he's become... there's no possibility he'll die. Not permanently, at least.

Yeah, you're right. Hound's going to need some serious duct tape to get those wings back on though.

I've heard that the stand alone Bumblebee movie will be more of an origin story, a prequel.

[RAR]

When I saw that red on Optimus' Face for a moment I thought he was in Silver Knight form.

Oh this Movie is going to be so hard for people to follow the colour saturation make some scenes incomprehensible as other than dark object moving.

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Some Questions :

1) Where is The Fallen's ship ?

2) Was it The Nemesis and if it was the Nemesis where is the Ancient Prime's ancient vehicle - or did they get here some other way like by space bridge ?

3) If The Fallen's ship was his ship (and was ancient) then how did the other Decepticons get to Earth - and further more isn't implied the Autobots had a larger ship on Mars ?

I can't believe they flew all the way from Cybertron in protoform mode. We seem to be missing some Space ships

4) How come there were a bunch of Decepticons on the Moon - can someone explain that to me a bit - did they go to sleep at someone's orders - or did they crash ?

[Seibertron]

I'm not entirely sure. Megatron keeps appearing with that red bit on his helmet as well, the same way Optimus does. I can't tell if that is supposed to signify something like the spot indicates that person is supposed to be under creator control or what. those 2 are the only ones who have it.

Hm. Well, if Megatron comes under control as well, then my theory is probably wrong. Maybe Bumblebee is The Last Knight, but that seems so obvious, but that would parallel Cade being a Last Knight. Bumblebee could be his Cybertronian Knight, similar to how King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table had their Cybertronian Knights.

[Emerje]

The next movie is literally called 'The Bumblebee Movie', so even if he wasn't the huge big advertising monster of a main character he's become... there's no possibility he'll die. Not permanently, at least.

Pretty sure that's still a working title. It's possible the whole reason he's getting his own movie IS because he dies in this one and they need something to give kids their Bee fix. It is a prequel after all.

Though I wouldn't doubt enlisting Megatron to stop the apocalypse, though I can't see why Megatron himself wouldn't want Cybertron to live and kill Earth

Because if there's one thing Megatron hates it's being used. Destroying Earth and reviving Cybertron is his thing, he isn't going to sit back and let someone else do it while he watches, especially not someone who claims to be his maker. Quintessa is definitely someone that Megatron would rebel against.

Emerje

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

The next movie is literally called 'The Bumblebee Movie', so even if he wasn't the huge big advertising monster of a main character he's become... there's no possibility he'll die. Not permanently, at least.

Yeah, you're right. Hound's going to need some serious duct tape to get those wings back on though.

I've heard that the stand alone Bumblebee movie will be more of an origin story, a prequel.

I think it was confirmed, I was worried that they would pull a Han Solo and kill off Bee, then give him a prequel movie, but his upcoming deluxe figure is too good for him to die

[RAR]

I'd rather have a Bumblebee Road trip action comedy - but if they want to make a bio pic that would be interesting (if flippin' expensive).

There is a LOT or CGI in the 5th Movie they are getting really close to the point now that they barely need the Humans so If bee was the only Transformer and he's in all of a Movie that might be feasible - but a flash back biopic would be expensive and complex.

I don't think they should green light a boring Bumblebee Movie though. or one that has no bearing on anything else.

Oh and am I crazy but when Optimus is fighting the Dragon is the last part showing it Transformed ?

Also is it officially a Predacon ?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Oh and am I crazy but when Optimus is fighting the Dragon is the last part showing it Transformed ?

Also is it officially a Predacon ?

I am pretty sure that is Dragonstorm and yes it appears he transforms into robot mode. And he was confirmed as an Autobot by the toyline.. or at least associated with the good guys.

[partholon]

Darn it prime, Bumblebee JUST got those wings back. . .

that was actually the very thing I was about to post. every trailer just results in Bee getting mroe and more beat up. Poor guy can't catch a break!

And those guys at the end really did look like a pack of Infernoci

Please don't die, Bumblebee. . .

Also, I'm thinking that the reason Lennox talks to Megatron in that one shot is to get him to take out Optimus for them since no one else can.

im getting a "megs as a good guy" vibe too.

certainly they need to do SOMETHING to shake his character up as his villain schtict is getting repetitive. i mean whats his fecking motivation anyway now ?

he'd all be for saving cybertron over earth, but not at the cost of his freedom so a reluctant "anti hero" is a route to go.

cade would seem to be "the last knight" but i cant help thinking it'd be class if he ends up being the equivelent of spike in fortress maximus. particularly as cogman seem to be going the headmaster way. it'd look fecking glorious on the big screen - but as theres no toy i reckon thats not gonna happen.

[ScottyP]

This is starting to look like the Bayverse version of "The Big Broadcast of 2006". Alternately, that story had a baby with "All Hail Optimus" and this is their child.

[X3ROhour]

cool?
sure

except
the only reason to see it now?
to see what order
the scenes
we've already seen
are seen in.

We've already seen
every scene
2 b seen.

gggrrrrrr...

[Sabrblade]

Some Questions :

1) Where is The Fallen's ship ?

On a moon of Saturn (or at least a ringed gas giant that eerily looked like Saturn).

2) Was it The Nemesis

Yes. One of two ships named "Nemesis" in the Movieverse. The other one is parked on Mars and is the ship that brought Starscream and the other Movie 1 Deceopticons to Earth's solar system before the first movie.

and if it was the Nemesis where is the Ancient Prime's ancient vehicle - or did they get here some other way like by space bridge ?

The Seven Primes were not affiliated with the Nemesis, for that ship was not constructed until long after the Seven Primes were deceased. Though the ship contained The Fallen's sarcophagus, it was captained by Soundwave.

3) If The Fallen's ship was his ship (and was ancient)

It was not that ancient. It was launched shortly before the war between Megatron's Decepticons and Optimus's Autobots began, with Megatron himself overseeing the launch of the Nemesis.

then how did the other Decepticons get to Earth

Megatron flew to Earth on his own chasing after the AllSpark, while the rest of the Movie 1 Decepticons got to Earth in the other Nemesis that they parked on Mars.

and further more isn't implied the Autobots had a larger ship on Mars ?

I can't believe they flew all the way from Cybertron in protoform mode. We seem to be missing some Space ships

Optimus's team of Movie 1 Autobots got to Earth via their own ship, the Ark, which is not to be confused with Sentinel Prime's own ship, also called the Ark.

Yes, there are two Arks and two Nemesises in the Movieverse.

4) How come there were a bunch of Decepticons on the Moon - can someone explain that to me a bit - did they go to sleep at someone's orders - or did they crash ?

The Decepticons who hid on the Moon with the Ark were actually from The Fallen's/Soundwave's Nemesis. After the Decepticon crew of that Nemesis abandoned their ship, they followed Sentinel's Ark to its crash site on the Moon where, under Soundwave's command, they harvested the space bridge pillars and lay hidden on the Moon until they were needed.

[Ravage XK]

Do we know who voices Megatron in this film?

It's Mr Welker, oh good.

[william-james88]

Also, anyone else notice Dragonstorm was the one dragging Prime along around 38 seconds left in the trailer? Prime was being drug along, you could see it was a dragon tail, and then a massive foot stepped down in front of him

I caught that too! Then again, the whole highlight of the AOE trailers was also Optimus fighting a good guy giant animal TF.

The next movie is literally called 'The Bumblebee Movie', so even if he wasn't the huge big advertising monster of a main character he's become... there's no possibility he'll die. Not permanently, at least.

While i am sure he wont die permanantly, the bumblebee movie coming out doesnt really say anything since its a prequel and not a sequel.

Also is it officially a Predacon ?

in terms of marketing and products, its officially an autobot.

[Deadput]

Post about answering another person' question with comics

Sabr you do know that the comics are not canon right?

The filmmakers chose to ignore them and Bay himself has said if you didn't see it on screen then it did not happen.

Especially for when the Bee movie and the Cybertron movie comes out which are both prequels it's probably going to make things even more not canon.

[Deadput]

cool?
sure

except
the only reason to see it now?
to see what order
the scenes
we've already seen
are seen in.

We've already seen
every scene
2 b seen.

gggrrrrrr...

As someone who went to the imax event no you have not seen every scene not even close to it.

[Malico]

There are two scenes where Primes eyes are blue. At 1:59 when he jumps through the Osprey and here in this screencap when he is dropped off by the flying transformer.

CGI just may not be done, but find it odd that they would start with blue if it was not supposed to be.

[Kurona]

the Bee movie

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