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Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Nexus Knight » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:44 pm

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Quintessons! Being this feels a bit more official, I can be happy about it! Season 3 of G1 was my favorite, with the Quintessons being a big reason for it.

Megatron Wolf wrote:Im calling it now shes quintesson in name only, shes organic not mechanoid (maybe some borg parts but not a robot) and there will be no face changing. This is the bayverse remember they dont care about what came before only what they feel like doing now. How many times have they just slapped a name on a character for the hell of it, going to be the same deal here. There may be some half assed homage to the original quimtessons but thats about it.


Whoa... salt much? This is one thing I don't understand. Why is "new" or "different" considered "bad"? I actually appreciate the Movieverse's different interpretation of classic characters. If they had to be limited to the characters' original designs and be stuck to only the original ideas, it would suck a lot of creativity and imagination out of the movies that make them fun, IMO. The movies may not be incredibly great, but at least they put enough effort to give us new interpretations of characters we love.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:51 pm

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Nexus Knight wrote:Quintessons! Being this feels a bit more official, I can be happy about it! Season 3 of G1 was my favorite, with the Quintessons being a big reason for it.

Megatron Wolf wrote:Im calling it now shes quintesson in name only, shes organic not mechanoid (maybe some borg parts but not a robot) and there will be no face changing. This is the bayverse remember they dont care about what came before only what they feel like doing now. How many times have they just slapped a name on a character for the hell of it, going to be the same deal here. There may be some half assed homage to the original quimtessons but thats about it.


Whoa... salt much? This is one thing I don't understand. Why is "new" or "different" considered "bad"? I actually appreciate the Movieverse's different interpretation of classic characters. If they had to be limited to the characters' original designs and be stuck to only the original ideas, it would suck a lot of creativity and imagination out of the movies that make them fun, IMO. The movies may not be incredibly great, but at least they put enough effort to give us new interpretations of characters we love.

There is a difference between "a new spin on an old element" and "being completely new and just re-using the name of something popular to skate by". Captain America's World War II costume in the movies is an example of the former. It kept the recognizable elements of the classic design, but used more grounded, realistic materials and tailoring. The entire 1998 Godzilla movie is an example of the latter.

When a property gets translated into a live-action movie, fans want to see the same things they love, but with a new twist. Optimus Prime's design in the first three movies is a fairly decent example, even if the radical aesthetic departure took some getting used to. But most adaptations in this franchise tend to skew in the direction of being like Skids, a totally different, inferior character that just has the name of a classic character. It's the difference between Anne Hathaway's Catwoman and Halle "I just vomited in my mouth a little just thinking about her" Berry's Catwoman.

Bay and company have treated our franchise with just about as much respect as the Nazis treated the lost ark in Raiders. It's a means to an end to them, and nothing more.

So yeah, it's understandable that fans would be pretty salty and jaded at this point.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:11 pm

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That would be fair enough if it weren't for the fact that Transformers has been all about using old names for new characters since forever. Beast Wars had a load of (very well developed) characters using names of older, completely unrelated characters- in the same continuity. Case in point, Silverbolt went from a concorde that was scared of heights into a noble but dorky winged wolf, and Rampage went from a one-note angry tiger into a twisted abomination that turned into a crab.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:25 pm

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And I reiterate, it would be one thing if those new characters were as good as, if not better than, the originals. But going from
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:31 pm

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Yes, because G1 Skids was such a deep and developed character...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:32 pm

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:05 pm

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Black Hat wrote:Yes, because G1 Skids was such a deep and developed character...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Nexus Knight » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:08 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Yes, because G1 Skids was such a deep and developed character...
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If you find someone on the internet that gets the difference between sarcasm and realism, that'll be a minor miracle.

I seriously think it's unfair to harp on the designers that have to put TFs in a "realistic" (ha ha ha) setting, while keeping up with the fans. Do most people even know who the names of the designers? At least they have to put work in their um... work and keep it interesting. Or they purposely design the characters to make some people rage just so their work will be remembered.

EDIT: And for those of you not smart enough to tell the difference between sarcasm and not, that last sentence was sarcastic.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Munkky » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:45 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:When it comes to stuff that has yet to be released, IMDB is as unreliable as Wikipedia.

Anyone else remember the three times IMDB flat out lied about some TF: Prime episodes that hadn't aired yet, but got news'd by all the fansites each time anyway?


I know what you mean, I remember seeing an IMDB page of Predacons Rising a few months before it aired, and it was just a list of actors like Anthony Anderson and Raquel Taylor reprising their roles from the first Michael Bay movie, along with a fan-ficcy wishlist of 'bots and voice actors (the only ones I remember now are Frank Welker voicing Galvatron rather than Megatron, and Garry Chalk as Optimus Primal....)

Anyway, it would be great if Gemma Chan really was part of The Last Knight's voice cast, I've seen her in a couple of things and she is a pretty good actress. The movie's Wikipedia page is now saying that John DiMaggio is voicing Megatron, Dee Bradley Baker is voicing Sqweeks and Alan Tudyk is voicing Hot Rod (it also claims that the VW camper van is named Hooligan, the Decepticon motorcycle is named Mohawk and the silver Aston Martin is a Headmaster), has any of this been backed up by any reliable sources?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:28 pm

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Munkky wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:When it comes to stuff that has yet to be released, IMDB is as unreliable as Wikipedia.

Anyone else remember the three times IMDB flat out lied about some TF: Prime episodes that hadn't aired yet, but got news'd by all the fansites each time anyway?


I know what you mean, I remember seeing an IMDB page of Predacons Rising a few months before it aired, and it was just a list of actors like Anthony Anderson and Raquel Taylor reprising their roles from the first Michael Bay movie, along with a fan-ficcy wishlist of 'bots and voice actors (the only ones I remember now are Frank Welker voicing Galvatron rather than Megatron, and Garry Chalk as Optimus Primal....)
Now, that I hadn't seen. What I was referring to were three instances where IMDB posted false info for new Prime episodes during season 1.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:24 am

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Munkky wrote:
(it also claims that the VW camper van is named Hooligan, the Decepticon motorcycle is named Mohawk and the silver Aston Martin is a Headmaster), has any of this been backed up by any reliable sources?



The two Decepticon names were stated by people who saw behind the scenes stuff which also claim that the VW Van looks like a Dread in the same way Berserker from the first wave of TLK deluxes does.


Cogman (Aston Martin) being a Headmaster was something that comes from Bay who says he is also Psychopathic and rips off heads to replace them.
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Transformers: The Last Knight Bay, Wahlberg, Moner, Haddock, Duhamel, di Bonaventura at #HasbroToyFa

Postby Va'al » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:03 pm

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Not entirely news news in the newsiest sense of the word, but it is nice to get to see the people behind the live-action movies closer to the toys that made that particular slice of the Transformers world possible. That's right, along with the actual movie prop Sqweeks from Toy Fair, Michael Bay, Josh Duhamel, Mark Wahlberg, Isabela Moner (in a new haircut!), Laura Haddock and producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura were all in attendance in New York! Check out some shots below, via the various The Last Knight social media feeds.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:16 pm

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If Bay or any of the crew didn't give a darn they would not be at that toy fair.

It's good to see them there.
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More photos of the Transformers: Last Knight crew at Toy Fair 2017

Postby Seibertron » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:57 pm

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We just received some new photos from Hasbro for us to share with you of several stars from the upcoming Transformers The Last Knight at Toy Fair 2017! Other photos from various social media sites and accounts were posted earlier today. Check out the new pics from Hasbro below:

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Transformers: The Last Knight stars Mark Wahlberg, Josh Duhamel, Isabela Moner, Laura Haddock, director Michael Bay and producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura joined Hasbro’s Entertainment Preview Event on Monday, February 20, 2017 during New York Toy Fair!

They were able to get a sneak peek of all the new movie-themed figures which are set to release later this year. Transformers: The Last Knight is coming out in theaters on June 23, 2017.

See below for photos and captions from the event. Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else.

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TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura (L) is joined by film stars Mark Wahlberg, Isabela Moner, Laura Haddock, Josh Duhamel and Director Michael Bay (rear) at the Hasbro Entertainment Preview Event, Monday, February 20, 2017 in New York City.

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TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT star Isabela Moner plays with TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT RC AUTOBOT SQWEEKS at the Hasbro Entertainment Preview Event Monday, February 20, 2017 in New York City. Inspired by a new character from the film, the remote controlled bot will be available this spring.

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TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT star Laura Haddock holds TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT – KNIGHT ARMOUR TURBO CHANGER MEGATRON figure at the Hasbro Entertainment Preview Event, Monday, February 20, 2017 in New York City. Inspired by the film, this figure will be available this spring.

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TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT star Josh Duhamel holds Mega 1-Step Turbo Changer Dragonstorm figure at the Hasbro Entertainment Preview Event, Monday, February 20, 2017 in New York City. Inspired by the upcoming movie, the Dragonstorm figure features premium detailing and movie-inspired effects and will be available in fall.

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TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT star Mark Wahlberg holds TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST NIGHT PREMIER EDITION LEADER CLASS MEGATRON at the Hasbro Entertainment Preview Event, Monday, February 20, 2017 in New York City. Inspired by the movie, the 9-inch figure will be available this fall.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Amelie » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:21 pm

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:23 pm

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Emerje wrote:It's like the cast of a new CBS sitcom:
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:30 am

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:46 am

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:46 am

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:08 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Glad to see Josh Duhamel back. So...why is Nicola Peltz not returning as Mark Wahlberg's daughter?
Maybe Tessa's away at college by the movie's point in time.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:09 am

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:03 am

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In case it wasn't made known over here yet, it was revealed over in the TLK toy thread that the giant three-headed dragon, Dragonstorm, is actually an Autobot! :BOT: :shock: 8-)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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Sabrblade wrote:In case it wasn't made known over here yet, it was revealed over in the TLK toy thread that the giant three-headed dragon, Dragonstorm, is actually an Autobot! :BOT: :shock: 8-)

Damn you! I saw that on twitter last night after I had logged off and just got to this thread to post it!
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Transformers: The Last Knight Wahlberh and Duhamel Interviewed at #HasbroToyFair

Postby Va'al » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:58 am

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We've shown you images and releases about the Transformers: The Last Knight cast and crew, including producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura and director Michael May, at Toy Fair in New York last weekend - thanks to two new videos from the Associated Press, we also have some brief interviews with actors Mark Wahlberg and Josh Duhamel. They tease the upcoming Paramount movie, talk about their involvement, their families, their injuries and more, check them out for yourselves below!



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