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[DedicatedGhostArt]

What does "History: No longer in hiding" mean
I mean I get what it's trying to say but it's really awkward


In any case red is cool. Like I said when the car mode was revealed, probably trying to bring it closer to the RiD 2015 cartoon design.

The RID scheme was apparently based on an early color scheme for AoE Drift.

That pose look familiar?

Huh, interesting. It's still very... questionable to me why they went with a prototype colour scheme for RiD 2015 rather than matching either IDW or Movie, but that's a discussion for another time and isn't an actual flaw or anything. Just weird to me.

Maybe it's an easteregg?

[Noideaforaname]

Black Car > Red Robot how?
I mean, Drift's design always looked like it couldn't possibly transform anyways, but this is just ridiculous.

[Sabrblade]

What does "History: No longer in hiding" mean

History: No longer needing to hide from those who hunted him down.

[Bounti76]

Black Car > Red Robot how?
I mean, Drift's design always looked like it couldn't possibly transform anyways, but this is just ridiculous.

That's my deal with it. The car is mostly black, with red accents. How does he transform into a mostly red robot?

[Ultra Markus]

nice to see drift is back

[Nexus Knight]

That's my deal with it. The car is mostly black, with red accents. How does he transform into a mostly red robot?

I realise this is not the best if replies buuuut... black jet to white robot w/ red highlights.

[william-james88]

Black Car > Red Robot how?
I mean, Drift's design always looked like it couldn't possibly transform anyways, but this is just ridiculous.

The car kibble gets flipped inside out. The last toy did it with the shoulder pads by folding the sides to reveal the inside.

[SlyTF1]

Black Car > Red Robot how?
I mean, Drift's design always looked like it couldn't possibly transform anyways, but this is just ridiculous.

It's called concept art.

[JazZeke]

Black Car > Red Robot how?
I mean, Drift's design always looked like it couldn't possibly transform anyways, but this is just ridiculous.

It's called concept art.

Sly,you don't get to be snide when you haven't even responded to the last callout of your bullshit.

[SlyTF1]

Grimlock never became leader of the Autobots.

... actually.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Grimlock_(G1)/Marvel_Comics_continuity

Ah, beat me to it. Hoist by your own ignorance there, Ol' Sly.

Those don't count.

Why don't they count? You said Grimlock never bale and leader of the Autobots, were proven wrong, and then it doesn't count? What's your criteria? to count?

Because the general audience who were asking for Hot Rod to be in the movie don't care about the Marvel Comics. They probably don't even know they exist.

[MrBlack]

Black Car > Red Robot how?
I mean, Drift's design always looked like it couldn't possibly transform anyways, but this is just ridiculous.

The car kibble gets flipped inside out. The last toy did it with the shoulder pads by folding the sides to reveal the inside.

Hips aside, the Deluxe AoE toy was pretty fantastic, and it was both faithful to the alt-mode and the animation model. Lots of armor in bot mode, and a great looking car.

[Rodimus Prime]

tweaked

And I now see why the movies stick with realistic colors and not use the G1 colors.


Just looks cheesy and dumb it's good work but it would not work in a movie.

That's one opinion, one I disagree with. They should definitely do something about the head and face, though.

[MrBlack]

Grimlock never became leader of the Autobots.

... actually.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Grimlock_(G1)/Marvel_Comics_continuity

Ah, beat me to it. Hoist by your own ignorance there, Ol' Sly.

Those don't count.

Why don't they count? You said Grimlock never bale and leader of the Autobots, were proven wrong, and then it doesn't count? What's your criteria? to count?

Because the general audience who were asking for Hot Rod to be in the movie don't care about the Marvel Comics. They probably don't even know they exist.

Even setting that aside, Grimlock is at least as big a character as Hot Rod, if not bigger. He was a significant character in the pre-Movie G1 cartoon, and and even bigger player post-movie. He got a Masterpiece toy before Rodimus. He was in the recent High Moon games and Devastation when Hot Rod wasn't. He is in RID (or at least a character based on him is) when Hot Rod isn't.

[Nerdimus Maximus]

Michael Bay has been putting the absolutely ugliest and goofiest faces on to these Transformers' characters. The faces don't look like Transformers to me but some hideous organic-nightmare. The character designs need more attention to the faces and make them look like Transformers, you know, actual robots! This is movie 5 and Bay has YET to get this right. WHY do they keep making money when they are "Blasphemy" to Transformers?

[Sabrblade]

Michael Bay has been putting the absolutely ugliest and goofiest faces on to these Transformers' characters. The faces don't look like Transformers to me but some hideous organic-nightmare. The character designs need more attention to the faces and make them look like Transformers, you know, actual robots! This is movie 5 and Bay has YET to get this right. WHY do they keep making money when they are "Blasphemy" to Transformers?

Erm, Michael Bay isn't the one who makes the robot mode designs for the movie TFs.

[Noideaforaname]

The car kibble gets flipped inside out. The last toy did it with the shoulder pads by folding the sides to reveal the inside.

Eh, that's too big of a cheat for my tastes.

[Gunmetal]

Michael Bay has been putting the absolutely ugliest and goofiest faces on to these Transformers' characters. The faces don't look like Transformers to me but some hideous organic-nightmare. The character designs need more attention to the faces and make them look like Transformers, you know, actual robots! This is movie 5 and Bay has YET to get this right. WHY do they keep making money when they are "Blasphemy" to Transformers?

Because the wider movie-going public doesn't see the franchise as a religion.

[Fires_Of_Inferno]

I still really like THIS Drift as opposed to the comic Drift.

[Carnivius_Prime]

Michael Bay has been putting the absolutely ugliest and goofiest faces on to these Transformers' characters.

No, 'Transformers: Animated' did that.


I liked Drift's design in AoE and he looks even cooler here in the red. Glad to see him back (and I still find it odd to say positive things about a Transformer called Drift)

[Madeus Prime]

Michael Bay has been putting the absolutely ugliest and goofiest faces on to these Transformers' characters. The faces don't look like Transformers to me but some hideous organic-nightmare. The character designs need more attention to the faces and make them look like Transformers, you know, actual robots! This is movie 5 and Bay has YET to get this right. WHY do they keep making money when they are "Blasphemy" to Transformers?

Because the wider movie-going public doesn't see the franchise as a religion.

I think his point is that generally the public likes robots that look like robots, and not mishy mashy alien creatures made of metal. Ex. Pacific Rim, Iron Man, or Ultron. One only has to look at how Marvel has updated its corny designs (looking at you Cap, Falcon and Hawkeye) into the badassery that we know and, personally speaking, love. It stuns me that the studio and designers behind the TF movie franchise haven't even once done that (taken a classic and honored design and updated it without actually changing that much, case in point: Thor)

[Deadput]

You guys do clearly know these are not his actual colors right?

Something got screwed up with the coloring in fact it's given me a theory Hot Rod and Drift have their colors switched somehow for these posters.

Drift from facebook


Drift's alt mode from Bay's Flickr


Hot Rod from Bay's Flickr




So why does Hot Rod have the same colors as Drift's altmode despite the Lamborghini car parts while Drift has a red robot mode which has colors usually associated with Hot rod

So what is the most likely scenario that the colors are switched up on the posters or that Hot Rod is the same color as Drift's car mode while Drift turns into a completely different color pallet in robot mode?

Use logic sometime people I know it's the movie thread and we scream our butts off over everything but please think.

[Nexus Knight]

Why does EVERYTHING need to be based off the original source? This is a sore spot for me. Just because it's not based off the source material makes it bad. Is all the designs good? Heeeeell no. Personally, I thought Starscream looked absolutely ridiculous. I do appreciate, though, that the creators are still taking the time to come up with something new with old characters. People like to complain there's nothing original anymore, and awhile the movies are not original, it's nice to see them trying to do new and original. It's annoying to see people get so worked up over how "it's nothing like the original". I think that's the point.

And don't get me wrong. I loved the original designs for G1 characters. Optimus Prime was just awesome. Simple design that felt like a leader of a robotic race that could convert into a semi truck.

[Deadput]

I think his point is that generally the public likes robots that look like robots, and not mishy mashy alien creatures made of metal. Ex. Pacific Rim, Iron Man, or Ultron. One only has to look at how Marvel has updated its corny designs (looking at you Cap, Falcon and Hawkeye) into the badassery that we know and, personally speaking, love. It stuns me that the studio and designers behind the TF movie franchise haven't even once done that (taken a classic and honored design and updated it without actually changing that much, case in point: Thor)

Welcome to Paramount we are not Marvel studios or Disney the richest company in the world who has somehow not bought Hasbro yet and improved it.


Seriously thought we would benefit from Disney's help in making these movies.

[Madeus Prime]

Welcome to Paramount we are not Marvel studios or Disney the richest company in the world who has somehow not bought Hasbro yet and improved it.
Seriously thought we would benefit from Disney's help in making these movies.

Probably they don't want to worry about another toyline. Additionally, how would the public react to Transformers going from CGI laden, raunchy humored, and ultra violent to Marvel/Disney level cleanliness? People wouldn't know what to do without their racially offensive characters, Baysplosions, hot babes, and college pothead level humor.

My opinion, hope this expanded universe idea burns out and give it another decade for another company to buy Hasbro.

[ZeroWolf]

I like that not too much has changed for drift outside his alt and colour scheme.

Madeus@ remember just because you don't like the movies doesn't mean you get to forget all the people who do like the movies (I'm talking all the people on this spectrum, from those who see these films as a guilty pleasure to those who worship the ground these movies were made on)

It's fine for us to have opinions but not everyone will share them

Another thing, I still don't see how these movies existence hurts the rest of the brand considering how far reaching it is. It also doesn't affect anything that came out before. So why not just accept these are a thing, not saying you have to like it or see it but it's certainly not going anywhere yet.