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[ZeroWolf]

*squints at the sword*

Crap that does look a lot like the accepted appearance of excalibur. that means the rumour about the merlin plot is possibly true. Wonder if they would point out that merlin is actually Welsh

C'est la vie though, I'll fully judge the movie when it's out.

[Powermaster Swag]

I don't know about anyone else, but I think Sqweeks might be one of those old British generals who always go on about "back in the glory days....." and stuff like that.

[Emerje]

Did we already know there would be a convertible version of Bee? I wonder how that will look in robot mode if he transforms to/from it without reformatting?

Emerje

[Sabrblade]

Did we already know there would be a convertible version of Bee? I wonder how that will look in robot mode if he transforms to/from it without reformatting?

Emerje

Could be that his robot mode might look like it normally does from the front, while his back would simply lack the car roof kibble it's had in Bee's previously forms.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

Did we already know there would be a convertible version of Bee? I wonder how that will look in robot mode if he transforms to/from it without reformatting?

Emerje

I just realized that Bee's convertible mode is a completely different mode altogether, not just his normal look minus the roof. The convertible Bee has a different spoiler and side vents, among other things. I don't know if it'll impact his robot mode that much, but it probably means we'll be getting two different deluxe class Bumblebee figures from TLK ( which I am perfectly ok with )

[Rodimus Prime]

We never had a Brawl in Bayverse. Not onscreen.

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

[Kurona]

We never had a Brawl in Bayverse. Not onscreen.

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

Why don't they count? He's retroactively known as Brawl, it's pretty clear the name Devastator was just an error. Especially considering we have a completely different Devastator in the next movie.

[Windsweeper]

We never had a Brawl in Bayverse. Not onscreen.

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

Official merchandise doesn't count?

The inclusion of Squeek bugs me no end. Another Transformer that looks nothing like a Transformer. Bad enough Drift is back. They'll probably bring back bloody Brains too.

Dino, Jolt and Arcee get killed off and they bring back the naff bots.

Probably bring back that damn Leo and Simmons next.

[Deadput]

The inclusion of Squeek bugs me no end. Another Transformer that looks nothing like a Transformer. Bad enough Drift is back. They'll probably bring back bloody Brains too.

Dino, Jolt and Arcee get killed off and they bring back the naff bots.

Probably bring back that damn Leo and Simmons next.

Squeaks actually looks like he can Transform at least and what is wrong with Drift and Brains just wondering?

Don't say Drift is racist please don't... at the very least Drift is getting a redesign with the new alt mode.


Dino was never coming back due to issues with Ferrari unfortunately, Jolt was a useless character shoehorned at the last minute as advertising for a car, and Bay hated Arcee from the start and I can see why since the only thing notable about her personality basically is that she is a girl and that's where it ends so she is a weak character most of the time.


If they were bringing back Leo or Simmons they would announced it by now if they were in the main cast but at the very least Leo is not coming back since he hasn't been relevant since ROTF in 2009.

[Stuartmaximus]

If Drift still has his triple-changing helicopter mode...i hope the toy manufacturers get it right this time & give us a triple changing toy! instead of two toy Drifts....one which was HeliDrift

[dragons]

We never had a Brawl in Bayverse. Not onscreen.

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

I remember seeing name brawl in theaters when stars cream was calling everyone together to free megaton it may still be on DVD release wouldn't know I haven't saw first
Movie on bluray yet

[ZeroWolf]

If Drift still has his triple-changing helicopter mode...i hope the toy manufacturers get it right this time & give us a triple changing toy! instead of two toy Drifts....one which was HeliDrift

I doubt it, I mean, it would be a nice surprise to see his helicopter mode referenced again but considering how long it was used for in aoe, I don't think it's even a consideration

[Tyrannacon]

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

Well it's not just toys and comics here that's saying it, even though that's where it primarily is focused on with the name. There's lots of other sources here calling the Con, Brawl. It ranges from the Writers, to Hasbro itself, and yeah the other external media like comics and what not. There's nothing wrong with you calling him "Devastator" though. I get the "movie purist" aspect totally. So I'm not attacking that with this post. Just showing there's multiple sources where it's been more or less confirmed by the powers that be from the writers that he is "Brawl". What you do with it is obviously your choice of course in the end and respectfully is entirely up to you and the name you wish to call Brawl/Devastator in your personal canon. I say this respectfully to you of course and to show there's an opposing/dissenting view.

I remember seeing name brawl in theaters when stars cream was calling everyone together to free megaton it may still be on DVD release wouldn't know I haven't saw first Movie on bluray yet

Not in any of the distributions of the movie I've seen (I saw it in theaters when it first came out and own the DVD that I've watched quite a few times) did I see the name "Brawl" make an appearance at all. It's always been "Devastator" in the film. The source for it being "Brawl" is and has been primarily outside of the film itself. I have not watched the Blu ray though, but I doubt there is a difference there in any event in this case.

[Deadput]

I remember seeing name brawl in theaters when stars cream was calling everyone together to free megaton it may still be on DVD release wouldn't know I haven't saw first
Movie on bluray yet

I have the blue ray and it's still Devastator.



Let's just say Devastator is Brawl's nickname that he prefers to call himself.

[Tyrannacon]

I remember seeing name brawl in theaters when stars cream was calling everyone together to free megaton it may still be on DVD release wouldn't know I haven't saw first
Movie on bluray yet

I have the blue ray and it's still Devastator.



Let's just say Devastator is Brawl's nickname that he prefers to call himself.

At least he doesn't hate everything like Bonecrusher.

[Deadput]

At least he doesn't hate everything like Bonecrusher.

While the films have not been the best with Decepticons I do like how some characters are handled Bonecrusher was one of them he might have had short screen-time but every part of it showed how much anger the guy had he went out of his way to destroy a bus for no reason and Bonecrusher also yelled a lot he clearly did hate everything and it got him killed for acting out on it.

[Tyrannacon]

Kinda reminds me of a fan theory I read somewhere about the Decepticons in the "Bayverse" being the more or less "misunderstood good guys" or more appropriately, anti-villains, than anything. Point is, I thought it made a compelling argument for it in any case. Kinda like how in certain Star Wars circles where people insist the Sith are actually not that evil. Heh.

[william-james88]

We never had a Brawl in Bayverse. Not onscreen.

Where in any of the movies was this character named Brawl? Toys and comics don't count.

I remember seeing name brawl in theaters when stars cream was calling everyone together to free megaton it may still be on DVD release wouldn't know I haven't saw first
Movie on bluray yet

I dont even see why any of these matters and why there is a debate. This character is called Brawl by all movie related info and merchandise, so he's Brawl. But so what? None of these characters (aside from Optimus, sadly) are claimed to be depictions of their G1 selves. Its seperate characters in a different universe.

Universe Silverbot didnt combine but he was still G1 silverbolt. And this guy is no even G1 brawl.

TLDR: His name is Brawl, but why does that even matter? Its just the movies, since when do they care about anything?

[william-james88]

Man, that Cybertron Con sure looks awesome. Not only do they have arguably the bigger Titans Return Reveals (Trypticon and Sixshot) but they also get an actual behind the scenes video of Michael Bay walking us through a scene he is shooting. This video was being filmed live in an enormous set for an underwater scene in a submarine with Mark Wahlberg. Even people who are just fans of movie making in general would get a kick out of it. You get a great idea of the insane scope of a film like this. I myself was very surprised with the amount of actors who stay on the set even if a scene does not have them (though it may simply be for this special live video), like Josh Duhamel who stops by to say hi. An even more interesting tidbit is an actress in full on motion capture which surprised Mark Walhberg's character while he is injured on the sub. Which CG character could that be? One last interesting note on a filming standpoint is how long the scene actually plays out and how Michael Bay would rather keep the actors working to get it right, rather than cut. The takes last longer than the shots, thanks to multiple cameras being used, which helps keep actors within character and cuts on continuity errors.

Regardless of how the story in these films play out, it is undeniable that Michael Bay runs a tight ship and seeing him at the centre of such an immense project, yet also being able to be up close and personal with the scenes being filmed gives you a good idea of why he keeps getting these projects. We were made aware of this video by fellow Seibertronian SlyTF1.

Another behind the scenes video:
http://alcdn.static.xiaoka.tv/img/swf/p ... eKQEh_fjdx

[SeventhSage]

Submarine transformer? We don't have that many come to think of it...

[william-james88]

Submarine transformer? We don't have that many come to think of it...

I dont know where you got that, there is no submarine transformer confirmed. Its just a scene that takes place in a sub.

[Beyonder]

I am a very big non-fan of the Bayverse TF designs.

In my head canon, anything that looks remotely the way the Cybertronians in the Bayverse SHOULD be cosmic powered, or have some mystical qualities.

If not, they are just weak ugly fodders (robotic or otherwise) to be either smashed by the incredible Hulk, or be blown to bits by the Sentry.

You see the designs in Titans Return or Combiner Wars? Or any of the 3D games? Now THOSE are Cybertronians!!

[Deadput]

Good opinion beyonder and i can see why you don't like the designs due to being different.


But difference between the movies and the new titans return/combiner wars/ recent games designs is that at least the movies have imagination to make something new and not a rehash of an old 30 year design.


But seriously unless it's a new character then nothing generations gives us is remotely new or creative and has to rely on reusing the basic blocky designs just with a different twist.

Not that it's bad but at least the movies try to move the brand forward and not bumble around in the past.

[ZeroWolf]

While I love innovation and have no problems with the movie designs I think a lot of people expected the g1 designs to be used as they were the most well known. Now bay has said why the art took the direction it did and he's right, would people of liked prime looking exactly like his g1 version doing all the things the movie prime does?

Still, it seems some people can't separate the characters from all incarnations and just let them be their own characters.

Besides, are these designs any weirder than what we got from beast machines or what we would of got in trans tech?

[Rodimus Prime]

Even though it was seen in Times Square already, the art for the poster for The Last Knight officially gets released:

Transformers: The Last Knight Poster Officially Released

Though the film doesn’t hit theaters until next summer, the first poster for Transformers: The Last Knight debuted in Times Square last month and now Paramount Pictures has officially released the art online.

Source: http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/7 ... d#/slide/1