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[Deadput]

The true nature of man is hate. Look at every side of every conflict in human history. No matter what side you on, your motives are dictated by hate. Why should a movie portray mankind as anything more or less?

Just some fact checking here real quick, most wars in the real world start because of capital and resources, then hate is used to further conflict. Just like the transformers civil war.

Correct hate is not necessarily what causes it but it is the fuel that keeps it burning strong.

[SlyTF1]

The true nature of man is hate. Look at every side of every conflict in human history. No matter what side you on, your motives are dictated by hate. Why should a movie portray mankind as anything more or less?

Just some fact checking here real quick, most wars in the real world start because of capital and resources, then hate is used to further conflict. Just like the transformers civil war.

You're thinking of vain, materialistic, superficial ****. My concern isn't with what physical thing the war is started over, but what perpetuates it. The leader of a country hates the fact that another country has a resource that he doesn't have unlimited access to. The leader of the other country hates the fact that the other leader wants what they THINK is theirs. You can try to fool yourself into thinking wars are just about the resources they bring, but they never are. Hate fuels them, first and foremost.

[Kurona]

The true nature of man is hate. Look at every side of every conflict in human history. No matter what side you on, your motives are dictated by hate. Why should a movie portray mankind as anything more or less?

Because maybe it's better to rise above that, and fiction can be and is used to communicate such messages and inspire?
Still... maybe we got a bit off-track with the morality discussion.

[ZeroWolf]

We should always strive to be better, to to not succumb to the levels of our enemies. It's not always the easiest path to take but it's the right one.

"An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind"

As for going off topic, it's not so bad in in the lulls between movie news.

[SlyTF1]

"An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind"

I've always hated that saying. I'd much rather the world be blind and just than blatantly unjust, taking pride in its wicked ways, wearing every sin as a badge of honor.

[ZeroWolf]

"An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind"

I've always hated that saying. I'd much rather the world be blind and just than blatantly unjust, taking pride in its wicked ways, wearing every sin as a badge of honor.

I don't think you quite understand the saying as it's more about how you deal with people. To put it simply hatred breeds hatred, sly, if you really wanted a just world, you would want to put an end to the hatred as well, and help everyone overcome it.

Heh, guess I'm letting my optimistic side show more, oh well, never hurts to smile

[Burn]

"An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind"

I've always hated that saying. I'd much rather the world be blind and just than blatantly unjust, taking pride in its wicked ways, wearing every sin as a badge of honor.

I don't think you quite understand the saying as it's more about how you deal with people. To put it simply hatred breeds hatred, sly, if you really wanted a just world, you would want to put an end to the hatred as well, and help everyone overcome it.

Heh, guess I'm letting my optimistic side show more, oh well, never hurts to smile

He understands you perfectly, he just doesn't care. He's just an angry little troll living under his bridge. Not worth responding to because you simply cannot have a reasonable discussion with him as he's not open minded in the slightest to the opinions of others.

Just ignore him.

[Va'al]

Do you want explosions? Do you want some images from the set of Transformers: The Last Knight, as they shoot through the Packard Plant in Detroit - as we already saw here? We got you covered, with the latest imagery from the official Instagram (via Michael Bay) and Twitter accounts for the movie, and a clip of Isabela Moner's fellow movie street kids. Check it all out below, as we also catch up with Sqweeks, Santiago Cabrera, Josh Duhamel and more!

[ZeroWolf]

Forgive me if it has already been confirmed but is sqweeks a minicon? I'm just getting that kind of vibe from him.

[Rainmaker]

Hopefully Sqweeks will be better than Wheelie at his own job.

[Decepticon Stryker]

Well. If anyone had any doubt Michael Bay was directing this.. They don't have it anymore.

[SlyTF1]

"An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind"

I've always hated that saying. I'd much rather the world be blind and just than blatantly unjust, taking pride in its wicked ways, wearing every sin as a badge of honor.

I don't think you quite understand the saying as it's more about how you deal with people. To put it simply hatred breeds hatred, sly, if you really wanted a just world, you would want to put an end to the hatred as well, and help everyone overcome it.

Heh, guess I'm letting my optimistic side show more, oh well, never hurts to smile

See, I always thought that quote to mean that no one should be punished for anything. But in the case of raw vengeance, yeah, I see where you're coming from. I don't think emotion should be involved with any punishment.

He understands you perfectly, he just doesn't care. He's just an angry little troll living under his bridge. Not worth responding to because you simply cannot have a reasonable discussion with him as he's not open minded in the slightest to the opinions of others.

Just ignore him.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Look at that, you've but proven my point. You're coming at me on some hater ****, without even understanding where I'm coming from. I don't come here talking about these things out of my ass. If you can show me a significant number if instances throughout human history that contradict with what I said, by all means.

Anyway, yesterday, my sister showed me a video on her phone. It was one of the TLK cast members, on set, saying he was "making energon," and he had dozens of bottles filled with some type of green goo around him. I don't know where she got the video, but I thought it would be important to mention that there's actual physical energon this time around. Which is cool, but why green?

[Madeus Prime]

Anyway, yesterday, my sister showed me a video on her phone. It was one of the TLK cast members, on set, saying he was "making energon," and he had dozens of bottles filled with some type of green goo around him. I don't know where she got the video, but I thought it would be important to mention that there's actual physical energon this time around. Which is cool, but why green?

Shouldn't the question be, why not green?

Besides, if memory serves correctly, isn't Transformer "blood" green? Speaking strictly on the movie's incarnation of their species.

[Sabrblade]

Anyway, yesterday, my sister showed me a video on her phone. It was one of the TLK cast members, on set, saying he was "making energon," and he had dozens of bottles filled with some type of green goo around him. I don't know where she got the video, but I thought it would be important to mention that there's actual physical energon this time around. Which is cool, but why green?

Shouldn't the question be, why not green?

Besides, if memory serves correctly, isn't Transformer "blood" green? Speaking strictly on the movie's incarnation of their species.

Well, AllSpark energy is blue, and its main power was energon.

[o.supreme]

In G1 toon, Energon was typically pink, but truthfully it can be, and has been just about every color you can imagine. TF "blood" (if you can call it that) is pretty much the same. Though I like how in TF:TM when the Autobots were slaughtered aboard the shuttle, Prowl just smoked, and some "clear" fluid can be seen. In the Bayverse, the blood seems to be a darkish red, I think of Brake Fluid or Battery fluid when I see it, but the decision was made nor doubt to simulate human blood cause...you can get away with way more in PG-13 when slaughtering robots as opposed to humans.

[SlyTF1]

Anyway, yesterday, my sister showed me a video on her phone. It was one of the TLK cast members, on set, saying he was "making energon," and he had dozens of bottles filled with some type of green goo around him. I don't know where she got the video, but I thought it would be important to mention that there's actual physical energon this time around. Which is cool, but why green?

Shouldn't the question be, why not green?

Besides, if memory serves correctly, isn't Transformer "blood" green? Speaking strictly on the movie's incarnation of their species.

The KSI robots had green blood, and Lockdown vomited some green liquid when he was killed. I think Ironhide had some green liquid dripping from his mouth when he died, too. Other than that, energon has usually been pink or purple in every other continuity.

[Sabrblade]

Anyway, yesterday, my sister showed me a video on her phone. It was one of the TLK cast members, on set, saying he was "making energon," and he had dozens of bottles filled with some type of green goo around him. I don't know where she got the video, but I thought it would be important to mention that there's actual physical energon this time around. Which is cool, but why green?

Shouldn't the question be, why not green?

Besides, if memory serves correctly, isn't Transformer "blood" green? Speaking strictly on the movie's incarnation of their species.

The KSI robots had green blood, and Lockdown vomited some green liquid when he was killed. Other than that, energon has usually been pink or purple in every other continuity.

The AllSpark in the movies runs on energon and its energy was colored blue, wasn't it?

[SlyTF1]

Anyway, yesterday, my sister showed me a video on her phone. It was one of the TLK cast members, on set, saying he was "making energon," and he had dozens of bottles filled with some type of green goo around him. I don't know where she got the video, but I thought it would be important to mention that there's actual physical energon this time around. Which is cool, but why green?

Shouldn't the question be, why not green?

Besides, if memory serves correctly, isn't Transformer "blood" green? Speaking strictly on the movie's incarnation of their species.

The KSI robots had green blood, and Lockdown vomited some green liquid when he was killed. Other than that, energon has usually been pink or purple in every other continuity.

The AllSpark in the movies runs on energon and its energy was colored blue, wasn't it?

I always assumed that was just the energy emitted by the Allspark, and not energon itself.

I completely forgot about synthetic energon in TF Prime. That was green.

[Sabrblade]

Anyway, yesterday, my sister showed me a video on her phone. It was one of the TLK cast members, on set, saying he was "making energon," and he had dozens of bottles filled with some type of green goo around him. I don't know where she got the video, but I thought it would be important to mention that there's actual physical energon this time around. Which is cool, but why green?

Shouldn't the question be, why not green?

Besides, if memory serves correctly, isn't Transformer "blood" green? Speaking strictly on the movie's incarnation of their species.

The KSI robots had green blood, and Lockdown vomited some green liquid when he was killed. Other than that, energon has usually been pink or purple in every other continuity.

The AllSpark in the movies runs on energon and its energy was colored blue, wasn't it?

I always assumed that was just the energy emitted by the Allspark, and not energon itself.

Energon is energy, though. It's even in the name.

Granted, it's likely not "normal" energon, as the AllSpark wouldn't even be needed if ordinary energon could do the whole "life-giving" thing on its own, but still probably some special kind of energon, converted from normal energon by the cube to give it life-granting properties.

[OptimalOptimus2]

I am a little surprised that they are taking this marketing campaign really seriously. Using film coverage as a gimmick is one way to attract people to see the movie, no matter the reputation of the franchise.

[Burn]

I am a little surprised that they are taking this marketing campaign really seriously. Using film coverage as a gimmick is one way to attract people to see the movie, no matter the reputation of the franchise.

...what?

[ZeroWolf]

I am a little surprised that they are taking this marketing campaign really seriously. Using film coverage as a gimmick is one way to attract people to see the movie, no matter the reputation of the franchise.

...what?

Yeah, what he said. Though in all seriousness, maybe opt-optimus is thinking that the release of pictures from the film sets is just a marketing campaign. In a way he's right but it's something every movie does.

[Va'al]

The Michael Bay official website and Flickr account have shared another image from the Transformers: The Last Knight set showing ..er.. trucks.. sort of ..um.. flipped, against a green screen. Described by Bay as 'Creating some wicked action in 116 degree weather.', these are a clear indication of the mystical powers of ROM the Spaceknight infused with the wisdom of Merlin of Avalon. Or maybe just an explosion in progress, knowing the modus operandi of the director. In any case, check out the image below, and speculate away entirely about nothing in the Energon Pub!

We have another year of this kind of post, folks, get ready for a weird ride!

[Kibble]

[Microraptor]

Given Bay's tendency to use real pyrotechnics, i doubt it's an explosion.