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[Rtron]

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[ZeroWolf]

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[EvasionModeBumblebee]

We have a winner!

DOTM Warpath kept his top spot from the rankings and took 57% of the finale vote, becoming this year's Studio Series September champion! For everyone who voted for him, what would you like to see if he was to get a Studio Series figure? Voyager or Leader Class? Would he include a ROTF claw accessory that could work with DOTM Megatron to recreate his game appearance?

Here's a little bit of a summary of this year's tournament:

A big thank you to everyone who voted and participated this year! You all make this a fun event to run!

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

With the tournament over, I'm back to customs! First up is Bonecrusher:

[TF-fan kev777]

Wow, he looks great! I really like the detailing you used to make the grill and air intake areas of the hood look dirty.

[Overcracker]

We have a winner!

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DOTM Warpath kept his top spot from the rankings and took 57% of the finale vote, becoming this year's Studio Series September champion! For everyone who voted for him, what would you like to see if he was to get a Studio Series figure? Voyager or Leader Class? Would he include a ROTF claw accessory that could work with DOTM Megatron to recreate his game appearance?



A big thank you to everyone who voted and participated this year! You all make this a fun event to run!

I'm still shocked Longarm didn't make it out of the first round. I love that toy, and would love an update.



Also the cheeky reference on him is excellent.

[Rtron]

With the tournament over, I'm back to customs! First up is Bonecrusher:

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He looks great! Bonecrusher is one of my favorite Bayverse characters.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

Wow, he looks great! I really like the detailing you used to make the grill and air intake areas of the hood look dirty.

Thanks! I actually got the idea for that from the MPM!

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I'm still shocked Longarm didn't make it out of the first round. I love that toy, and would love an update.

Also the cheeky reference on him is excellent.

An update would be really cool! I don’t think I knew about that reference, I have the screen battles version that says “Mike’s Towing” instead!

He looks great! Bonecrusher is one of my favorite Bayverse characters.

Thank you! Bonecrusher is a great design, I ended up appreciating it even more after looking through all the reference images!

[Sabrblade]

"Orson's Towing" is a dual reference to two people. First is Aaron Archer, who used the name "Orson" as his online screenname back when he hosted Orson's World. And second is the person whom Archer's "Orson" alias was named after, legendary Hollywood film actor Orson Welles, who we know as the voice of Unicron in TFTM.

[SGMLordMirage]

Got lucky and found wave 8 Core Class at a local Walmart in Springfield,Mo.

SGM

[TulioDude]

I had a hard time chossing between Warpath and Springer.
Great work on the paint with Bonecrusher, EvasioModeBumblebee!I like how clean detail turned out.

WIth respect, I disagree. It won't matter whether or not they are movie bots. The names are G1 and that's really all that matters. We'll see if I'm correct. If not, well...

Hound is not really hound. Starscream could have an entire different name and we wouldn't know that's supposed to be Starscream. Wheeljack in ROTB could be named Skids for all it's worth. ROTB Scourge have more to do with RiD than G1. All the Megatrons could have been their own original characters with their own name. Only in the intro of the Bee movie that the names match the bots. In all other instances, appart Optimus Prime, all the others could have been named something else and we would have never noticed. Even Bumblebee.

I disagree with this view, that the character is false if the name usage doesn't match the G1 version;
Hasbro has to reuse names because of trademark stuff,why not do something cool with it?
The reuse of names gave us these character below
-Beast Wars Inferno
-2001 Rid Scourge
-Armada Wheeljack
-Movie Barricade
-Animated Prowl

And sometimes we get someone like Rise of The Beasts Scourge, that is mix of various aspects of the previous versions.
The reuse of names open the door to more possibilites to be explored.

[-Kanrabat-]

I had a hard time chossing between Warpath and Springer.
Great work on the paint with Bonecrusher, EvasioModeBumblebee!I like how clean detail turned out.

WIth respect, I disagree. It won't matter whether or not they are movie bots. The names are G1 and that's really all that matters. We'll see if I'm correct. If not, well...

Hound is not really hound. Starscream could have an entire different name and we wouldn't know that's supposed to be Starscream. Wheeljack in ROTB could be named Skids for all it's worth. ROTB Scourge have more to do with RiD than G1. All the Megatrons could have been their own original characters with their own name. Only in the intro of the Bee movie that the names match the bots. In all other instances, appart Optimus Prime, all the others could have been named something else and we would have never noticed. Even Bumblebee.

I disagree with this view, that the character is false if the name usage doesn't match the G1 version;
Hasbro has to reuse names because of trademark stuff,why not do something cool with it?
The reuse of names gave us these character below
-Beast Wars Inferno
-2001 Rid Scourge
-Armada Wheeljack
-Movie Barricade
-Animated Prowl

And sometimes we get someone like Rise of The Beasts Scourge, that is mix of various aspects of the previous versions.
The reuse of names open the door to more possibilites to be explored.

That still proves my point.
All these name-swaps could be attributed to anyone.

Bumblebee in the Bayverse could have been named Waspinator and it could have worked.



Now I want a green and yellow repaint of a BayBee toy into Waspinator.

[Rtron]

I had a hard time chossing between Warpath and Springer.
Great work on the paint with Bonecrusher, EvasioModeBumblebee!I like how clean detail turned out.

WIth respect, I disagree. It won't matter whether or not they are movie bots. The names are G1 and that's really all that matters. We'll see if I'm correct. If not, well...

Hound is not really hound. Starscream could have an entire different name and we wouldn't know that's supposed to be Starscream. Wheeljack in ROTB could be named Skids for all it's worth. ROTB Scourge have more to do with RiD than G1. All the Megatrons could have been their own original characters with their own name. Only in the intro of the Bee movie that the names match the bots. In all other instances, appart Optimus Prime, all the others could have been named something else and we would have never noticed. Even Bumblebee.

I disagree with this view, that the character is false if the name usage doesn't match the G1 version;
Hasbro has to reuse names because of trademark stuff,why not do something cool with it?
The reuse of names gave us these character below
-Beast Wars Inferno
-2001 Rid Scourge
-Armada Wheeljack
-Movie Barricade
-Animated Prowl

And sometimes we get someone like Rise of The Beasts Scourge, that is mix of various aspects of the previous versions.
The reuse of names open the door to more possibilites to be explored.

I agree, it's cool when they're flexible with the characters that carry a name.

[ZeroWolf]

I had a hard time chossing between Warpath and Springer.
Great work on the paint with Bonecrusher, EvasioModeBumblebee!I like how clean detail turned out.

WIth respect, I disagree. It won't matter whether or not they are movie bots. The names are G1 and that's really all that matters. We'll see if I'm correct. If not, well...

Hound is not really hound. Starscream could have an entire different name and we wouldn't know that's supposed to be Starscream. Wheeljack in ROTB could be named Skids for all it's worth. ROTB Scourge have more to do with RiD than G1. All the Megatrons could have been their own original characters with their own name. Only in the intro of the Bee movie that the names match the bots. In all other instances, appart Optimus Prime, all the others could have been named something else and we would have never noticed. Even Bumblebee.

I disagree with this view, that the character is false if the name usage doesn't match the G1 version;
Hasbro has to reuse names because of trademark stuff,why not do something cool with it?
The reuse of names gave us these character below
-Beast Wars Inferno
-2001 Rid Scourge
-Armada Wheeljack
-Movie Barricade
-Animated Prowl

And sometimes we get someone like Rise of The Beasts Scourge, that is mix of various aspects of the previous versions.
The reuse of names open the door to more possibilites to be explored.

I agree, it's cool when they're flexible with the characters that carry a name.

Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names

[-Kanrabat-]

Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names

And that's why people should stop making a big deal out of this.
They started doing it right after G1 and it's been over 3 decades already since G1's finale.

[ZeroWolf]

Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names

And that's why people should stop making a big deal out of this.
They started doing it right after G1 and it's been over 3 decades already since G1's finale.

Agreed, wasn't there an instance of it in G2?

[-Kanrabat-]

Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names

And that's why people should stop making a big deal out of this.
They started doing it right after G1 and it's been over 3 decades already since G1's finale.

Agreed, wasn't there an instance of it in G2?

On top of my mind, I don't think so.
So, it would be after G2 that names began to jump around. Unless it would count for Lazer Optimus and Tank Megatron, who had different shapes.

[Sabrblade]

Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names

And that's why people should stop making a big deal out of this.
They started doing it right after G1 and it's been over 3 decades already since G1's finale.

Agreed, wasn't there an instance of it in G2?

On top of my mind, I don't think so.
So, it would be after G2 that names began to jump around. Unless it would count for Lazer Optimus and Tank Megatron, who had different shapes.

There were lots of instances in G2. The name "Afterburner", for example, was originally an Autobot Technobot in G1, but in G2 was instead the name of a Decepticon Skyscorcher.



And then there's probably the most famous name-reuse in G2, "Sureshot". In G1, the name belonged to an Autobot Targetmaster. In G2, he was Optimus Prime in all but name.

[Emerje]

Same, otherwise it's like saying that every person called Paul has to be exactly the same...An argument taken to the extreme I know but you get the point. We shouldn't get hung up on characters reusing G1 names

And that's why people should stop making a big deal out of this.
They started doing it right after G1 and it's been over 3 decades already since G1's finale.

Agreed, wasn't there an instance of it in G2?

On top of my mind, I don't think so.
So, it would be after G2 that names began to jump around. Unless it would count for Lazer Optimus and Tank Megatron, who had different shapes.

There was a few name reuses for new characters in G2. G2 Ransack is not the same character as the G1 Deluxe Insecticon. G2 Smokescreen is unrelated to the G1 Autobot car and likewise Dreadwing isn't related to G1 Dreadwind and Darkwing. G2 Roadblock is unrelated to the G1 Pretender. And European G2 Sureshot (Hero Optimus Prime) is unrelated to the G1 Targetmaster.

Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.



(Edit)Oops, missed Afterburner.

Emerje

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

I had a hard time chossing between Warpath and Springer.
Great work on the paint with Bonecrusher, EvasioModeBumblebee!I like how clean detail turned out.

Thank you very much! I have a really fun project coming up next!

[-Kanrabat-]

Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

Emerje

So Lazer Prime was always meant to be RID Scourge from the beginning. Interesting.

[Emerje]

Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

Emerje

So Lazer Prime was always meant to be RID Scourge from the beginning. Interesting.

Wait, what? How did you get that from what I said? His '95 counterpart is the Megatron and Starscream pack from the same year, I even posted a picture of it.

Emerje

[-Kanrabat-]

Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

Emerje

So Lazer Prime was always meant to be RID Scourge from the beginning. Interesting.

Wait, what? How did you get that from what I said? His '95 counterpart is the Megatron and Starscream pack from the same year, I even posted a picture of it.

Emerje

Oh. I thought you meant G2 Optimus Prime who was a repaint of the G1 original with a black trailer and extra bits.
It would have been interesting.

[Sabrblade]

Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

Emerje

So Lazer Prime was always meant to be RID Scourge from the beginning. Interesting.

Wait, what? How did you get that from what I said? His '95 counterpart is the Megatron and Starscream pack from the same year, I even posted a picture of it.

Emerje

Oh. I thought you meant G2 Optimus Prime who was a repaint of the G1 original with a black trailer and extra bits.
It would have been interesting.

Keyword in his post: "Laser"

[-Kanrabat-]

Incidentally, Laser Prime wasn't meant to be the counter to the green tank Megatron, he was meant to be pitted against his '95 counterpart.

Emerje

So Lazer Prime was always meant to be RID Scourge from the beginning. Interesting.

Wait, what? How did you get that from what I said? His '95 counterpart is the Megatron and Starscream pack from the same year, I even posted a picture of it.

Emerje

Oh. I thought you meant G2 Optimus Prime who was a repaint of the G1 original with a black trailer and extra bits.
It would have been interesting.

Keyword in his post: "Laser"

You misunderstood.
I expected G2 Prime VS Laser Prime.

The real keyword would be 1995.