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[Sabrblade]

It's weird to think that in spite of the run time, this is the only other Transformers film. The Movie, Bayformers, BB and this BW2 movie.

The Beast Wars season 3 episode "Cutting Edge" was released as a theatrical film in Japan. It was extended with added footage from "Optimal Situation" to recap Optimus's "great transformation" to the viewers since that season hadn't aired on TV in Japan yet. It's the only Season 3 episode that was omitted from the Japanese DVD release of Beast Wars Metals since it's counted as a movie instead of an episode.

Same with "Bad Spark" being omitted from the Japanese DVDs since it too was released theatrically in Japan.

I didn't follow Prime, so I had no idea about Predacons Rising. A quick look on the wiki only mentions 'Hulu'. So I assume it wasn't released in cinemas. Which would mean BW2 counts more towards this line than it would.

Predacons Rising is something of a gray area. It was first released as a TV movie on the Hub, but eventually was added to the show's episode rerun rotation as Episodes 66, 67, and 68, split up into three parts.

This is basically the same thing that happened for Transformers Animated's two TV specials, "Transform and Roll Out" and "TransWarped", which both first aired as feature-length TV specials before being cut up into three-part episode form later.

Similarly, the first three episodes of Prime's third season aired in Singapore as a combined TV movie, but aired everywhere else in episode format.

Conversely, many of Prime's multi-part episodes were released on DVD in an edited-together format to present them as feature-length DVD movies: "Darkness Rising" went from five episodes to one movie, seven serialized episodes ("One Shall Fall", "One Shall Rise, Parts 1-3", and "Orion Pax, Parts 1-3") were combined into a movie called "One Shall Stand", and the first four episodes of season 3 (s "Darkmount, NV", "Scattered", "Prey", and "Rebellion") were combined into a movie called "Dawn of the Beast" (essentially what aired earlier in Singapore only without the fourth part, giving it a cliffhanger ending in that version).

[Emerje]

In fact they're more like longer episodes given their runtime (under 1 hour), and can't really be compared to feature length movies here.

At the time, yeah, when they used to be double features with other anime movies. These days anime films made to go with TV series tend to have full feature length run times. Most recently Demon Slayer: Mugen Train has a two hour run time, Jujutsu Kaisen 0 is 1h 45m, and Evangelion: 3.0+1.0: Thrice Upon A Time runs 2h 34m. Even One Piece went from their earlier movies being less than hour 20 years ago to their most recent ones being on either side of two hours.

Emerje

[AllNewSuperRobot]

It's weird to think that in spite of the run time, this is the only other Transformers film. The Movie, Bayformers, BB and this BW2 movie.

The Beast Wars season 3 episode "Cutting Edge" was released as a theatrical film in Japan. It was extended with added footage from "Optimal Situation" to recap Optimus's "great transformation" to the viewers since that season hadn't aired on TV in Japan yet. It's the only Season 3 episode that was omitted from the Japanese DVD release of Beast Wars Metals since it's counted as a movie instead of an episode.

Same with "Bad Spark" being omitted from the Japanese DVDs since it too was released theatrically in Japan.

If only Beast Wars had been given an actual movie. Imagine The Nemesis finale being reworked with a movie budget? We might have gotten to see the Coneheads appearance that Simon Furman envisioned.

I didn't follow Prime, so I had no idea about Predacons Rising. A quick look on the wiki only mentions 'Hulu'. So I assume it wasn't released in cinemas. Which would mean BW2 counts more towards this line than it would.

Predacons Rising is something of a gray area. It was first released as a TV movie on the Hub, but eventually was added to the show's episode rerun rotation as Episodes 66, 67, and 68, split up into three parts.

This is basically the same thing that happened for Transformers Animated's two TV specials, "Transform and Roll Out" and "TransWarped", which both first aired as feature-length TV specials before being cut up into three-part episode form later.

Similarly, the first three episodes of Prime's third season aired in Singapore as a combined TV movie, but aired everywhere else in episode format.

Conversely, many of Prime's multi-part episodes were released on DVD in an edited-together format to present them as feature-length DVD movies: "Darkness Rising" went from five episodes to one movie, seven serialized episodes ("One Shall Fall", "One Shall Rise, Parts 1-3", and "Orion Pax, Parts 1-3") were combined into a movie called "One Shall Stand", and the first four episodes of season 3 (s "Darkmount, NV", "Scattered", "Prey", and "Rebellion") were combined into a movie called "Dawn of the Beast" (essentially what aired earlier in Singapore only without the fourth part, giving it a cliffhanger ending in that version).

To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The precedent set so far for the Studio Series, theatrically released features, keeps it more black and white. Which is obviously academic, as neither PR nor BW2 have a chance of joining this line. As we've all already noted.

I just thought to add it once more to the conversation since BW2 is so radically different to the current output of the SS line. It could add some variety. Taken from the era that didn't keep forcing out a new Prime, BB, Ratchet etc into every new project.

I have friends that collect the SS line and I respect what has been achieved with these figures. While not for me. If they gave new versions of Spittor*, Iguanus* or the Gestalts produced at this level of quality. Then, I'd be interested.

**Diver and Crazybolt, respectively.

[william-james88]

The first core class toys from the Studio Series line have now been found on US shelves. Shockwave and Ravage, both from the Bumblebee Movie, were found at a Texas Walmart which looked really well stocked, especially coming out of the Christmas shipping season. Th photo was posted by @PopCultureJunk2 on Twitter. As can be seen in the picture below, these core class figures were placed on pegs a little off from the main Transformers section, which was too full.

Spike will be in wave 2 and he has already been found in the middle east so that wave could show up soon in other places as well.

If you have found them, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

It's sad to think I haven't seen toy shelves like that in years.

[Cyber Bishop]

One of the guys in our line chat group found ravage and shockwave yesterday at a Wal Mart in Harvey Louisiana.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

One of the guys in our line chat group found ravage and shockwave yesterday at a Wal Mart in Harvey Louisiana.

I picked them up (Online via Kapow) for a friend who is collecting the Core Class. I misread the description and thought they were '86 SS

[william-james88]

To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

[transformers_va]

Just found Shockwave & Ravage today in a Virginia Walmart... looked to have several in stock

[william-james88]

Just found Shockwave & Ravage today in a Virginia Walmart... looked to have several in stock

Did you get them?

[o.supreme]

To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

Exactly. TF:TM was split into 5 parts in 1988/89 and shown with other episodes in the puppet prime reruns. That dosen't make it any less of movie. Same for Predacons Rising.

[transformers_va]

Just found Shockwave & Ravage today in a Virginia Walmart... looked to have several in stock

Did you get them?

Yes, but I'm not hugely pleased with Ravage. He doesn't look good in either mode, or in Soundwave's chest

[Jelze Bunnycat]

To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

Exactly. TF:TM was split into 5 parts in 1988/89 and shown with other episodes in the puppet prime reruns. That dosen't make it any less of movie. Same for Predacons Rising.

I'll give you that, but there is a bit of a difference in feel of production value between theatrical releases and "made-for-TV" or "straight-to-DVD": the latter category is notorious for lackluster sequels of successful theatrical movies, plus the lower budget really shows.

[o.supreme]

True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

[william-james88]

True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

Plus it has its own accompanying merchandise.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

Plus it has its own accompanying merchandise.

If you could find it

[william-james88]

True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

Plus it has its own accompanying merchandise.

If you could find it

Well it was Target exclusive. Was it hard to find in the US?

[o.supreme]

I don't think so. I was able to get the Legion Abominus set for my son on clearance.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

True. Predacons Rising dosen't have the feel of a theatrical release. But personally, I still think it's a pretty awesome addendum to a series that had a really strong ending as it was.

Plus it has its own accompanying merchandise.

If you could find it

Well it was Target exclusive. Was it hard to find in the US?

Wave 2 (Nova Blast Bumblebee, Cryofire Predaking, Bombshock & Soundwave, Night Shadow Bumblebee vs. Blight) had limited distribution in the US, and none if any anywhere else including Canada and Europe.

[Sabrblade]

To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

It aired on TV first, four days before its DVD release.

[o.supreme]

To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

It aired on TV first, four days before its DVD release.

Similar to how all of WB major films in 2021 were released in theaters and on HBO Max the same day . Except PR only aired once before the DVD release, and still as a single film.

[Sabrblade]

To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

It aired on TV first, four days before its DVD release.

Similar to how all of WB major films in 2021 were released in theaters and on HBO Max the same day . Except PR only aired once before the DVD release, and still as a single film.

So then it's a "TV movie" rather than a "DVD movie".

[william-james88]

To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

It aired on TV first, four days before its DVD release.

Similar to how all of WB major films in 2021 were released in theaters and on HBO Max the same day . Except PR only aired once before the DVD release, and still as a single film.

So then it's a "TV movie" rather than a "DVD movie".

It's both

[Sabrblade]

To me, if it could be broken evenly into parts, that would mean Predacons Rising doesn't count as a Movie in the same context as BW2. Following the logic of that, every multipart Transformers story could be classified as a film. Five Faces of Darkness, The Rebirth, Other Voices, The Agenda etc, etc Which isn't the case.

The original intent of Predacon rising was a straight to video movie release. What happens after doesn't matter.

It aired on TV first, four days before its DVD release.

Similar to how all of WB major films in 2021 were released in theaters and on HBO Max the same day . Except PR only aired once before the DVD release, and still as a single film.

So then it's a "TV movie" rather than a "DVD movie".

It's both

Is the same also true of "Transform and Roll Out" and "TransWarped"? As they too were later split into episode form after their initial broadcasts as TV specials.

[o.supreme]

No because those were made specifically to be individual episodes. They have obvious act breaks etc. Similar to the first 3 episodes of Superman TAS or Justice League. 3 episodes that aired as specials on TV in their premiere. Predacons Rising is a proper film. There are no obvious act breaks. Like TF:TM in 1988, they would have to abruptly pick a place to end an pick up PR if broken into episodes later.

Neither special from TFA was advertised as an actual film.