Lockdownhunter wrote:MEH!!!!!!Grimlock's mold looks nice but does not scream G1 grimlock.
Madeus Prime wrote:Eh, so far I'm only going to get Strongarm, because I like collecting fembots. I'll wait to see what any of the Warrior class Decepticons look like, but so far this has been a big pass for me. Drift kind of looks interesting, but I'll only pick it up if they do it up in a Bludgeon deco.
There's also these non-G1-looking Grimlocks:Metro Prime wrote:Lockdownhunter wrote:MEH!!!!!!Grimlock's mold looks nice but does not scream G1 grimlock.
It isn't G1 Grimlock and it was never supposed to look like G1 Grimlock. You already have the original G1 toy, the Energon mold, Classics Grimlock, TF:Animated Grimlock, Masterpiece Grimlock, and FOC Grimlock (especially the one that comes with Silver Knight Optimus), all of which are very GEEWUN. Can we just let Hasbro do something different for once, instead of just rehashing your warm and fuzzy 1984-1985 memories over and over ad infinitum?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Metro Prime wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Eh, so far I'm only going to get Strongarm, because I like collecting fembots. I'll wait to see what any of the Warrior class Decepticons look like, but so far this has been a big pass for me. Drift kind of looks interesting, but I'll only pick it up if they do it up in a Bludgeon deco.
He's already orange. Paint some purple and green on him and you've got an excellent Bludgeon.
Well, if you add in a black one to the four existing ones, you'd have Drift Fever J.LE0KING wrote:Metro Prime wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Eh, so far I'm only going to get Strongarm, because I like collecting fembots. I'll wait to see what any of the Warrior class Decepticons look like, but so far this has been a big pass for me. Drift kind of looks interesting, but I'll only pick it up if they do it up in a Bludgeon deco.
He's already orange. Paint some purple and green on him and you've got an excellent Bludgeon.
Lets see now we have a white (generations), Red (shattered glass), blue (AOE), and orange (rid), soon I will have all the Drift Rangers.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Delta Magnus wrote:I for one like the new Grimlock design. It's different but it's cool.
The toys on the other hand are very disappointing. I kinda feel like they're treating kids like idiots, as if they're too stupid to handle more than 10 steps in a transformation or that much articulation. I mean sure, have simpler stuff available too, but don't deprive them of any level of complexity! My first ever Transformer was RID Side Burn, who I eventally learned to transform by heart. I mean sure, not every toy has to be ROTF Optimus Prime, but they don't have to starve children's brains!
What makes it worse is that even by autotransforming figures the one-step changers are just awful. Fused legs, single-axis arms and basically no poseability. Heck, I know they can do better- the Animated Activators were decent autotransforming toys with good poseability and that was 2008! Simplicity doesn't have to mean crudeness. Look at some of the molds from Energon, Cybertron and Animated- very simple transformations and pretty solid construction but a lot of poseability and a lot of fun to play with.
I think we need to start some kind of petition to Hasbro to recognize kids' rights to a stimulating toy.
kaijuguy19 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:I for one like the new Grimlock design. It's different but it's cool.
The toys on the other hand are very disappointing. I kinda feel like they're treating kids like idiots, as if they're too stupid to handle more than 10 steps in a transformation or that much articulation. I mean sure, have simpler stuff available too, but don't deprive them of any level of complexity! My first ever Transformer was RID Side Burn, who I eventally learned to transform by heart. I mean sure, not every toy has to be ROTF Optimus Prime, but they don't have to starve children's brains!
What makes it worse is that even by autotransforming figures the one-step changers are just awful. Fused legs, single-axis arms and basically no poseability. Heck, I know they can do better- the Animated Activators were decent autotransforming toys with good poseability and that was 2008! Simplicity doesn't have to mean crudeness. Look at some of the molds from Energon, Cybertron and Animated- very simple transformations and pretty solid construction but a lot of poseability and a lot of fun to play with.
I think we need to start some kind of petition to Hasbro to recognize kids' rights to a stimulating toy.
Honestly the Warrior class toys to me aren't that much different from what Animated did in terms of toys. I mean yeah they're simple from what we've seen but for the most part they're spot on to how they look on the show especially Grimlock. Also just because a toy is simple to transform doesn't really mean they're bad or boring. Sometimes they can be interesting like how the Animated line did and besides having them be complecated isn't always the best direction with designs like this like Universe Ironhide and Ratchet proved as well as ROTF Blazemaster and Classics Galvatron proved long ago. If these toys are more on the lines of the upsclaed 2014 BH figures then I'd get what you're saying but I just don't see how the Warrior class toys are insulting kid's intelligence when they look to have a good balance between easy and challenging like the Animated line did and most modern toys like Generations Trailcutter.
As for the one step changers well we've had toys that weren't really any different in most of the past lines like in the first three movies and even lines like Animated and Prime and they're aimed for younger children.
kaijuguy19 wrote:
As for the one step changers well we've had toys that weren't really any different in most of the past lines like in the first three movies and even lines like Animated and Prime and they're aimed for younger children.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Why are people saying that the Animated toys were simple? No, they were as advanced in engineering as any other 2007-2010 toys were, and were about as complex as the easiest-to-medium ROTF toys and the HFTD toys. They were not this simple (speaking of the Warrior class toys, that is).
william-james88 wrote:I didnt know this until a little while ago and now I don't know why people are making a fuss about there being one step changers. It looks like they have been part of the franchise since 1985.
-Kanrabat- wrote:kaijuguy19 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:I for one like the new Grimlock design. It's different but it's cool.
The toys on the other hand are very disappointing. I kinda feel like they're treating kids like idiots, as if they're too stupid to handle more than 10 steps in a transformation or that much articulation. I mean sure, have simpler stuff available too, but don't deprive them of any level of complexity! My first ever Transformer was RID Side Burn, who I eventally learned to transform by heart. I mean sure, not every toy has to be ROTF Optimus Prime, but they don't have to starve children's brains!
What makes it worse is that even by autotransforming figures the one-step changers are just awful. Fused legs, single-axis arms and basically no poseability. Heck, I know they can do better- the Animated Activators were decent autotransforming toys with good poseability and that was 2008! Simplicity doesn't have to mean crudeness. Look at some of the molds from Energon, Cybertron and Animated- very simple transformations and pretty solid construction but a lot of poseability and a lot of fun to play with.
I think we need to start some kind of petition to Hasbro to recognize kids' rights to a stimulating toy.
Honestly the Warrior class toys to me aren't that much different from what Animated did in terms of toys. I mean yeah they're simple from what we've seen but for the most part they're spot on to how they look on the show especially Grimlock. Also just because a toy is simple to transform doesn't really mean they're bad or boring. Sometimes they can be interesting like how the Animated line did and besides having them be complecated isn't always the best direction with designs like this like Universe Ironhide and Ratchet proved as well as ROTF Blazemaster and Classics Galvatron proved long ago. If these toys are more on the lines of the upsclaed 2014 BH figures then I'd get what you're saying but I just don't see how the Warrior class toys are insulting kid's intelligence when they look to have a good balance between easy and challenging like the Animated line did and most modern toys like Generations Trailcutter.
As for the one step changers well we've had toys that weren't really any different in most of the past lines like in the first three movies and even lines like Animated and Prime and they're aimed for younger children.
Agreed. Since when does simple to transform = bad? If the overall toy look nice, is well articulated and is fun n' quick to transform, whay the hell are people complaining about? Sure, I love my complicated TFs. However, my most funs are quick and simple to transform.
Sabrblade wrote:Why are people saying that the Animated toys were simple? No, they were as advanced in engineering as any other 2007-2010 toys were, and were about as complex as the easiest-to-medium ROTF toys and the HFTD toys. They were not this simple (speaking of the Warrior class toys, that is).
william-james88 wrote:DecepticonFinishline wrote:What happened to that really really nice looking Bumblebee that we started seeing a long time ago? Is it, like, another 1st edition deal, so it's not getting much advertisement?
He's there but at a different angle. And this time it's coloured plastic and not fully painted like all Hasbro Stock images are initially (and in less perfect lighting and so on).
Pretty much, without all the marketting flash, this
becomes this
Still interested?
Sabrblade wrote:Why are people saying that the Animated toys were simple? No, they were as advanced in engineering as any other 2007-2010 toys were, and were about as complex as the easiest-to-medium ROTF toys and the HFTD toys. They were not this simple (speaking of the Warrior class toys, that is).
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