Megatron Wolf wrote:once i read "more human drama" and realized that blue fembot is Arcee i lost the little hope i had for this show. How do we get something awesome like War For Cybertron then get grade A crap like this? Come on hasbro pull your collective heads out of your collective ass' and give us something good again. Its not that hard.
Puck wrote:Gonna tangent a bit, did you guys hover over to see what the new GI Joe looks like?
Yeah, yikes.
ChrisRiss wrote:So, human drama. Well, I'm not going to complain about it like other people, because I realize, as much as we as fans don't want to admit it, these shows are for KIDS. I've been a fan since I was a little kid, and now twenty something years later, but the point is, most of us were fans when we were kids. That's what this is all about.
SlyTF1 wrote:ChrisRiss wrote:So, human drama. Well, I'm not going to complain about it like other people, because I realize, as much as we as fans don't want to admit it, these shows are for KIDS. I've been a fan since I was a little kid, and now twenty something years later, but the point is, most of us were fans when we were kids. That's what this is all about.
Since when do kids give 2 asses about human drama over giant robots blowing stuff up? I want to see a voilent TF show, where robots are riping eachother apart! Like in the movies.
Puck wrote:Gonna tangent a bit, did you guys hover over to see what the new GI Joe looks like?
Yeah, yikes.
ChrisRiss wrote:Kids need something to relate to most of the time, so they feel like something like this could happen to them.
And as much as I hate to admit it, you look at *shudder* Twilight, and how many kids there are reading that. Honestly, the real reason is because it's some drama, and the characters are so one dimensional that they can relate to them. It's the same thing, and by the way, I apologize to everyone here for comparing Transformers and *shudder* Twilight.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
First-Aid wrote:So, answer me this.
Transformers, from the beginning, has been about giant robots battling- for the most part- on Earth. There are 6.5 billion people on Earth. So, the odds are that humans are going to get in the way. Humans have ALWAYS been in the way. Spike, Sparkplug, Buster, Carly, Daniel, Sari, Una, Jok, Koji, Rad, Carlos, Alexis, Kicker, Bud, Koji...shall I go on? Humans have ALWAYS been in the storyline because the flippin robots fight ON OUR PLANET. Look, if you want a TF series without humans, do it yourself and put it on Youtube like everyone else. Otherwise, quit your whining and grow up. Use some common sense. This is a KIDS show. Kids have been shown to need something human to connect with because some concepts are just too alien for them. Giant alien robots may be one of those things, or maybe not, but if you're Hasbro you're not going to risk the investment or take the chance.
I just can't believe that there are so many people on this site (and others) that are SO closed minded. You look for something specific and whine and cry when something isn't that way. Well boo-effing-hoo. It's not made for you. Ignore it. Deal with it. Grow up. Transformers is about change...whether it's their forms or the series themselves, it has always been about change. This is another change. It happens. Personally, I'm going to roll with it. Enjoy it, maybe, for what it is...something to keep our beloved toy line alive for another generation. Would you rather they just decide, "We're not going to make Transformers cartoons anymore." How much does it affect the sales? A TON. That's why they make the cartoons. Builds the brand recognition in youth and creates sales. The movie exhibited that: Transformers sales increased over 400% when the movie came out. In between, sales are not as good.
If you don't like it, fine. Deal with it, don't watch it, whatever. you're never gonna be happy about anything TF related then...there will always be "human drama". Grow up, though. Whining isn't going to change it. So stop it. Us adults are getting sick of it.
ChrisRiss wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:ChrisRiss wrote:So, human drama. Well, I'm not going to complain about it like other people, because I realize, as much as we as fans don't want to admit it, these shows are for KIDS. I've been a fan since I was a little kid, and now twenty something years later, but the point is, most of us were fans when we were kids. That's what this is all about.
Since when do kids give 2 asses about human drama over giant robots blowing stuff up? I want to see a voilent TF show, where robots are riping eachother apart! Like in the movies.
Kids need something to relate to most of the time, so they feel like something like this could happen to them.
And as much as I hate to admit it, you look at *shudder* Twilight, and how many kids there are reading that. Honestly, the real reason is because it's some drama, and the characters are so one dimensional that they can relate to them. It's the same thing, and by the way, I apologize to everyone here for comparing Transformers and *shudder* Twilight.
Puck wrote:Gonna tangent a bit, did you guys hover over to see what the new GI Joe looks like?
Yeah, yikes.
DavidT wrote:Puck wrote:Gonna tangent a bit, did you guys hover over to see what the new GI Joe looks like?
Yeah, yikes.
Alright! Who's little brother is trying to draw again? Is Doug, Porkchop, and Patti Mayonnaise gonna be making an appearance?
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
First-Aid wrote:Hmmm...the style reminds me of a combination of the new "Spectacular Spider Man" cartoon combined with the CGI "Iron Man: Armored Adventures". Not a big deal for me with one exception: why, in an elite military outfit, is there a fat man? From a strictly logical standpoint, these should be the top physical specimens in the US. THen again, I suppose my own argument about kids relating has to be in there- for kids who are overweight, they have a character to relate to. Kinda like Bulkhead from TF: ANimated was kinda the big, dumb, overweight, clumsy kid. It's a dumb stereotype, to be sure, but I suppose it helps them identify better.
Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder if that's why Arcee isn't pink. "Female" doesn't necessarily equate with "pink" anymore and, since this is a cartoon aimed primarily at the male child demographic- should a toy come out- what little boy would want a PINK action figure? I mean, it's almost like having a flippin Barbie doll...
Rodimus the Prime wrote:Imagining Frank Welker-Superstar's voice coming from this thing is what's got my stomach turning already
http://tformers.net/g/albums/14118/megatron.jpg
Ye gods, when will the Bayverse nightmare end??
Sigh...I'll give it a chance, still, but even so, I also still have a feeling this show is going to suck, really, really bad...As for 'the more human drama than ever before' stuff...When I was a kid, I couldn't stand Buster, or Spike or Daniel or Chip Chase, and especially the girl who loved Powerglide. All I cared for was the giant robots, cause that's who I wanted to see myself in.
TF: Animated got it right when they made the human a robot too...and 'Autobot Spike' was the only time Spike wasn't a pain in the rear .
Other than that, the design for Ratchet looks ok.
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