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News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:45 pm

Mindmaster wrote:wat

The first wave hasn’t even hit my local Walmarts yet. On the bright side, means I’m that much closer to completing Volcanicus/Dreadwing.

Lore Keeper wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Decepticon Symbol! EFFING!!! YESSS!!!!!!

Also, what in the hell is it doing showing up already?!

Good person, you said EFFING!!! YESSS!!!!!! I believe you meant to say EFFING!!! NOOOO!!!!!! This must be the case for I am displeased with this turn of events, and I shall brook no disagreement on the matter.

This is where Reprolabel saves lives.

To me, it's more of a matter of principle. The toy is designed specifically as Rodimus under the influence of Unicron. This doesn't make him a Decepticon; Unicron is not affiliated with the Decepticons. This just seems to come down to Hasbro's reluctance to stray from the Autobot: good, Decepticon: bad structure. They appear to believe children just won't understand any variation to the formula, and I believe they're not giving kids enough credit. My son is eight (cliche I know) and when he sees a :SG-BOTS:

, he goes, "Woah! An evil Autobot!" He gets it. I think most kids would get it.

by **Rated X** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:47 pm

Lore Keeper wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Decepticon Symbol! EFFING!!! YESSS!!!!!!

Also, what in the hell is it doing showing up already?!

Good person, you said EFFING!!! YESSS!!!!!! I believe you meant to say EFFING!!! NOOOO!!!!!! This must be the case for I am displeased with this turn of events, and I shall brook no disagreement on the matter.

I agree the Decepticon symbol looks much better. This is not shattered glass. This is repurposing shattered glass characters into something less niche.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:48 pm

Lore Keeper wrote:Unicron is not affiliated with the Decepticons.

He is as far as Hasbro marketing department is concerned. Every Unicron toy for the past 12 years has been sold as a Decepticon toy by Hasbro.

News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:23 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Unicron is not affiliated with the Decepticons.
He is as far as Hasbro marketing department is concerned. Every Unicron toy for the past 12 years has been sold as a Decepticon toy by Hasbro.

This is true. I still find it to be a very uninspired approach. There's nothing wrong with throwing a little more variety in the mix. I don't remember any kids my age being like, "Maximals? Predacons? What's going on? My litle brain can't handle all these factions!!!"

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:26 pm

Unicron = Evil. Must be a Decepticon! :-s

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:31 pm

Lore Keeper wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Unicron is not affiliated with the Decepticons.
He is as far as Hasbro marketing department is concerned. Every Unicron toy for the past 12 years has been sold as a Decepticon toy by Hasbro.

This is true. I still find it to be a very uninspired approach. There's nothing wrong with throwing a little more variety in the mix. I don't remember any kids my age being like, "Maximals? Predacons? What's going on? My litle brain can't handle all these factions!!!"

I'm a Beast Wars kid and, for me, that was because I never knew about Autobots and Decepticons beforehand. To me, the Maximals and Predacons were the good guys and bad guys, period, no further questions asked.

I had little difficultly transitioning into the other named factions that came after Beast Wars because I had others explain it all to me as it was happening. But let me tell you, I sure was royally confused I was when RiD rolled around in 2001 and it was "Autobots vs. Predacons" when, before that point, everyone told me that the Autobots and Decepticons were the ancient ancestors of the Maximals and Predacons, so instead of it being either "Maximals vs. Predacons" or "Autobots vs. Decepticons", it was neither and that felt weird to my little childlike mind. Then once I got used to it, the show went and introduced the Decepticons in addition to the Predacons, making it then be "Autobots vs. Predacons and Decepticons". 8-}

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:31 pm

AmiAmi orders are up for wave 2. Looks like there's a few extra photos in there, but I can't be bothered to look through all of them. Grimlock's are kinda goofy, though.

: Discobot Fever

: Pontoons!

Emerje

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:37 pm

Emerje wrote:AmiAmi orders are up for wave 2. Looks like there's a few extra photos in there, but I can't be bothered to look through all of them. Grimlock's are kinda goofy, though.

Those photos were all in the link we newsed to dengeki hobby. I didnt bother newsing many of those because its toys we already have and already know exactly what they look like.

Also, MERGING TIME!!!!!!

News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:44 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:Moonracer looks great, can't wait to get the new fembots, especially if Elita really is using the fixed starscream mold

I do really hope they give us two more fembots to complete a combiner made up of Elita's cartoon team. There's still Greenlight and Lancer to touch on. Chromia is a candidate too, but because she already has a generations toy, it should be one of the other two.

News Credits: 2 · by **Crosscheck** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:47 pm

Does anyone know what the rectangular pegs on the sides of Starscream's legs are for? What about the ones on his wings next to the 5mm holes?

Also, am I doing something wrong or do the null ray's not peg into the upper arm peg holes in vehicle mode correctly?

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:51 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:remember this guy? and they called him Menasor

So what? Doesnt the Titanium line predate the SG concept? Those are indeed Motormaster colours (the main component of menasor) and the alt mode having the bulk part be the integated trailer works with how Motormaster has been portrayed in toy form. I dont see it being that much worse than these redecos representing a similar character:

News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:25 pm

Crosscheck wrote:Does anyone know what the rectangular pegs on the sides of Starscream's legs are for? What about the ones on his wings next to the 5mm holes?

Also, am I doing something wrong or do the null ray's not peg into the upper arm peg holes in vehicle mode correctly?

Ya know, I have no idea. They're not used for any of his forms. Though, the pegs on his legs fit perfectly into the unused slots on his forearms and the pegs on his wings fit several slots found o the figure. Perhaps they are the remnants of some abandoned design ideas?

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:44 pm

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:56 am

Lore Keeper wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:Does anyone know what the rectangular pegs on the sides of Starscream's legs are for? What about the ones on his wings next to the 5mm holes?

Also, am I doing something wrong or do the null ray's not peg into the upper arm peg holes in vehicle mode correctly?

Ya know, I have no idea. They're not used for any of his forms. Though, the pegs on his legs fit perfectly into the unused slots on his forearms and the pegs on his wings fit several slots found o the figure. Perhaps they are the remnants of some abandoned design ideas?

Who knows? And they're unique to Starscream since his retool switches the wings out.

And why is Elita-1 a jet? Slight wink and nudge to Leader-1 of the Gobots?

News Credits: 379 · by **Bounti76** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:24 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:Does anyone know what the rectangular pegs on the sides of Starscream's legs are for? What about the ones on his wings next to the 5mm holes?

Also, am I doing something wrong or do the null ray's not peg into the upper arm peg holes in vehicle mode correctly?

Ya know, I have no idea. They're not used for any of his forms. Though, the pegs on his legs fit perfectly into the unused slots on his forearms and the pegs on his wings fit several slots found o the figure. Perhaps they are the remnants of some abandoned design ideas?

Who knows? And they're unique to Starscream since his retool switches the wings out.

And why is Elita-1 a jet? Slight wink and nudge to Leader-1 of the Gobots?

Because they didn't want to make a Voyager sized Cybertronian minivan mold for just her?

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:46 am

Lore Keeper wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Moonracer looks great, can't wait to get the new fembots, especially if Elita really is using the fixed starscream mold

I do really hope they give us two more fembots to complete a combiner made up of Elita's cartoon team. There's still Greenlight and Lancer to touch on. Chromia is a candidate too, but because she already has a generations toy, it should be one of the other two.

Then we'd have repaint wars again. I'd prefer Obsidian and Strika (from Elita's IDW team). That'd be awesome :michaelbay:

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:38 am

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Burn wrote:Sludge has leg warmers ... ugh.
Blame it on stupid toy accurate decos. If it was cartoon accurate it would have been all grey. I never understood why people want toy inspired decos on cartoon inspired molds.
B/c they'd be crappy under-colored figures, one of the reasons the newer mp's aren't receiving the mass love they used to, the show colors are lazy at best, monochromatic at worst, I never buy the figure with the more subdued color scheme, and, judging from comments going back a ways, a lot of people feel that way too.

So you prefer the Dinobot toys having dull yellow heads and other parts over a great looking multi-layered look with techy details and a sparkling golden color? I thought :TAKARATOMY:

might go that way because they are the guys for cartoon accuracy but even they didn't decide to do it. Maybe that whole "trademarks uniting" nonsense is just an excuse for them to not do that because they know it wouldn't sell well. :lol:

Rated X wrote:All those toy accurate decos homage the worst of gang molding choices, lack of paint apps, and ugly stickers.

And the stickers are now replaced by tempographs, at least at 80 % of the Dinobots. So that's not a problem.

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:53 am

Lore Keeper wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:wat

The first wave hasn’t even hit my local Walmarts yet. On the bright side, means I’m that much closer to completing Volcanicus/Dreadwing.

Lore Keeper wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Decepticon Symbol! EFFING!!! YESSS!!!!!!

Also, what in the hell is it doing showing up already?!

Good person, you said EFFING!!! YESSS!!!!!! I believe you meant to say EFFING!!! NOOOO!!!!!! This must be the case for I am displeased with this turn of events, and I shall brook no disagreement on the matter.

This is where Reprolabel saves lives.

To me, it's more of a matter of principle. The toy is designed specifically as Rodimus under the influence of Unicron. This doesn't make him a Decepticon; Unicron is not affiliated with the Decepticons. This just seems to come down to Hasbro's reluctance to stray from the Autobot: good, Decepticon: bad structure. They appear to believe children just won't understand any variation to the formula, and I believe they're not giving kids enough credit. My son is eight (cliche I know) and when he sees a , he goes, "Woah! An evil Autobot!" He gets it. I think most kids would get it.

Not every kids parents are transformers geeks.

News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:45 am

Randomhero wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:wat

The first wave hasn’t even hit my local Walmarts yet. On the bright side, means I’m that much closer to completing Volcanicus/Dreadwing.

Lore Keeper wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Decepticon Symbol! EFFING!!! YESSS!!!!!!

Also, what in the hell is it doing showing up already?!

Good person, you said EFFING!!! YESSS!!!!!! I believe you meant to say EFFING!!! NOOOO!!!!!! This must be the case for I am displeased with this turn of events, and I shall brook no disagreement on the matter.

This is where Reprolabel saves lives.

To me, it's more of a matter of principle. The toy is designed specifically as Rodimus under the influence of Unicron. This doesn't make him a Decepticon; Unicron is not affiliated with the Decepticons. This just seems to come down to Hasbro's reluctance to stray from the Autobot: good, Decepticon: bad structure. They appear to believe children just won't understand any variation to the formula, and I believe they're not giving kids enough credit. My son is eight (cliche I know) and when he sees a , he goes, "Woah! An evil Autobot!" He gets it. I think most kids would get it.
Not every kids parents are transformers geeks.

Thing is, I've never told him about SG. He just picked up on the visual cues. Purple with evil red eyes is like guaranteed to be a bad guy in Transformers.

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:05 am

Lore Keeper wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:wat

The first wave hasn’t even hit my local Walmarts yet. On the bright side, means I’m that much closer to completing Volcanicus/Dreadwing.

Lore Keeper wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Decepticon Symbol! EFFING!!! YESSS!!!!!!

Also, what in the hell is it doing showing up already?!

Good person, you said EFFING!!! YESSS!!!!!! I believe you meant to say EFFING!!! NOOOO!!!!!! This must be the case for I am displeased with this turn of events, and I shall brook no disagreement on the matter.

This is where Reprolabel saves lives.

To me, it's more of a matter of principle. The toy is designed specifically as Rodimus under the influence of Unicron. This doesn't make him a Decepticon; Unicron is not affiliated with the Decepticons. This just seems to come down to Hasbro's reluctance to stray from the Autobot: good, Decepticon: bad structure. They appear to believe children just won't understand any variation to the formula, and I believe they're not giving kids enough credit. My son is eight (cliche I know) and when he sees a , he goes, "Woah! An evil Autobot!" He gets it. I think most kids would get it.
Not every kids parents are transformers geeks.

Thing is, I've never told him about SG. He just picked up on the visual cues. Purple with evil red eyes is like guaranteed to be a bad guy in Transformers.

someone should probably tell Misfire that...

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:43 am

I picked up a Starscream yesterday. Batch number 73121.
He has the fix on the wing assembly. ;)^

by **Niblis** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:28 am

The Target I visited last night had two Screamers from batch V-2976B. Interestingly enough, it seems like one did not have the corrected port and one did. I think the one I got is the revised one right?

by **Rated X** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:35 am

Lore Keeper wrote:Unicron is not affiliated with the Decepticons.

How is Unicron NOT affiliated with the Decepticons?

Lets see...

*He summoned Megatron and made him a deal he couldnt refuse and Galvatron was born.

*He conspired with Starscream's ghost to try and make Cybertron his new body.

*He interacted with Megatron/Galvatron in major story points in the Armada/Energon series.

*He possessed Megatron in the TF Prime series.

How much more interaction with the Decepticons does Unicron have to have to be "affiliated" ?

At the end of the day the fandom is divided on Shattered Glass. Half of the Botcon/TFCC fans loved it, the other half thought it was really dumb. Hasbro liked the character, but decided to go with the more trusted method of bringing him in the fiction, rather than swim in risky waters.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:40 am

Rated X wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Unicron is not affiliated with the Decepticons.

How is Unicron NOT affiliated with the Decepticons?

Lets see...

*He summoned Megatron and made him a deal he couldnt refuse and Galvatron was born.

*He conspired with Starscream's ghost to try and make Cybertron his new body.

*He interacted with Megatron/Galvatron in major story points in the Armada/Energon series.

*He possessed Megatron in the TF Prime series.

How much more interaction with the Decepticons does Unicron have to have to be "affiliated" ?

At the end of the day the fandom is divided on Shattered Glass. Half of the Botcon/TFCC fans loved it, the other half thought it was really dumb. Hasbro liked the character, but decided to go with the more trusted method of bringing him in the fiction, rather than swim in risky waters.

Still NOT affiliated.
He interacts a lot with Decepticons because they share interests and because HE and them are both the bad guys. BUT Unicron is not a Decepticon. Why should he join them if he can just use them? And therefore he has no interest in turning Hot Rod from an Autobot into a Decepticon.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:41 am

Rated X wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Unicron is not affiliated with the Decepticons.

How is Unicron NOT affiliated with the Decepticons?

He meant faction-wise, as in Unicron himself is not a Decepticon.

Though, Hasbro's marketing department keeps selling all of Unicron's toys from 2006-Present under the Decepticon label.