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Burn wrote:

Marcdachamp wrote:When, oh when, will Hasbro give me a G2 colors Beachcomber?

I'm still waiting for Outback from Brawn!

How about Hubcap and Cliffjumper, and maybe even Bumblejumper!

I'm a few days behind here, but this comment had me scratching my head.

King Kuuga wrote:Or they could make him a giant spaceship like the Animated or WFC versions. Or they could do a giant battle train like Energon.

So I have to ask, if you're so against Omega Supreme breaking up into a bunch of different parts then why are you OK with the Energon figure? Sure, it can be turned into a single train, but not without removing the head and splitting the figure into a battleship and construction-thing first.



I think it is possible to make a convincing G1-style Omega that can break down into his three core parts without the tiny parts. For example they could have the forearms not separate from the upper arms and shoulders (and therefore not being part of the tank) and have both the left and right sides connected through a part that runs through the torso. The whole thing then can collapse inside the forearms creating a single cohesive rocket. The rest I'm sure can be worked out with enough swing arms and pivots to get everything where it needs to be without being disconnected. I don't really see a problem with the tracks being removed, but I think there's a work around.

On a side note, there was a comment about Scorponok having a scorpion backpack.



Uh, what? It's just the tail and legs and they aren't even obtrusive.

Emerje

I wonder if POTP will have boxset or if those have been axed for good.

Burn wrote:

Marcdachamp wrote:When, oh when, will Hasbro give me a G2 colors Beachcomber?

I'm still waiting for Outback from Brawn!

It was in the leaks for wave 3 (along with Cindersaur, a repaint of Slash), but it was just a brown Brawn. Hopefully that was just an early moc up and the final figure will have a new head, it would be weird if that mold only had one head tied to it.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Burn wrote:

Marcdachamp wrote:When, oh when, will Hasbro give me a G2 colors Beachcomber?

I'm still waiting for Outback from Brawn!

It was in the leaks for wave 3 (along with Cindersaur, a repaint of Slash), but it was just a brown Brawn. Hopefully that was just an early moc up and the final figure will have a new head, it would be weird if that mold only had one head tied to it.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure it was a mockup like most of post Wave 2. Shame though, I wanted Rollbar to complement Roadburn.

Well I'm still waiting on a Titan Class sized Optimus Prime coz they need to start giving us other characters other than just basebots & combiners in Titan Class size

I mean some people have even suggested that Broadside should've been Titan Class

or how about Overlord? do you think that he should've been Titan Class?

Stuartmaximus wrote:Well I'm still waiting on a Titan Class sized Optimus Prime

Rescue Bots has one in the 2-foot-tall Epic Optimus Prime.

aye but that's RB! I was thinking something more detailed

Emerje wrote:I'm a few days behind here, but this comment had me scratching my head.

King Kuuga wrote:Or they could make him a giant spaceship like the Animated or WFC versions. Or they could do a giant battle train like Energon.

So I have to ask, if you're so against Omega Supreme breaking up into a bunch of different parts then why are you OK with the Energon figure? Sure, it can be turned into a single train, but not without removing the head and splitting the figure into a battleship and construction-thing first.

It was more of an example than anything else, I've never owned any version of that toy. Although being a headmaster with a split-down-the-middle combination is much less partsformery than torso, legs, wings, and arms all breaking off and reassembling into a new configuration with minimal actual transformation. (granted, Energon Omega didn't do a whole lot either but he had the benefit of looking like he turned into somethings)

Emerje wrote:I think it is possible to make a convincing G1-style Omega that can break down into his three core parts without the tiny parts. For example they could have the forearms not separate from the upper arms and shoulders (and therefore not being part of the tank) and have both the left and right sides connected through a part that runs through the torso. The whole thing then can collapse inside the forearms creating a single cohesive rocket. The rest I'm sure can be worked out with enough swing arms and pivots to get everything where it needs to be without being disconnected. I don't really see a problem with the tracks being removed, but I think there's a work around.

Yeah, the rocket arms could be a single piece, similar to how GaoGaiGar's arms work with the train going through the lion torso (although sans-different parts for the gauntlets). I had considered that. All in all though, I'm just really not a fan of G1 Omega's alt mode. I can't find the right words for it but it does nothing for me, and while he has a pretty iconic robot mode, I'm okay with adjustments being made to it to accommodate a more modern alt mode. WFC rode that line pretty well, I think.

Emerje wrote:On a side note, there was a comment about Scorponok having a scorpion backpack.



Uh, what? It's just the tail and legs and they aren't even obtrusive.

Emerje

Oh, I meant the other way around. The Scorpion mode has a giant backpack made of the robot's legs.





So as far as this line is concerned, I'm so far only dead set on the terrorcons, and even then I wish they'd modernized their alt modes a bit like the Beast Hunters figures. And Predaking, but that's a given. I might get that Optimus Prime to go with my Combiner Wars Megatron, and I'll get most of the fembots, but while I like the general concepts of this line, most of the characters aren't really of interest to me. Pretenders are gonna be good though.

I for one am looking forward to the Leader class figures. I intend to buy all 4 revealed at this point in time

GaoGaiGar is exactly what I was thinking of with the pass through arms for Omega Supreme. I've got a vintage one, it's a transformation that's so unique that I wouldn't be against seeing borrowed by Transformers.

There was another example that I couldn't quite remember, but it just hit me now, Tripredicus.


There's a bar that runs through Cicadacon that connects the two halves of Ramhorn together.

King Kuuga wrote:Oh, I meant the other way around. The Scorpion mode has a giant backpack made of the robot's legs.

Ah, I see. He wasn't really meant to represent a real scorpion, more like a tank shaped like a scorpion. Instead of his tail being made to strike it's a laser. It would have been neat if they could have found another use for the legs like sticking canons in the bottom of his feat, but I suppose they still thought of this as a mobile fortress mode similar to Metroplex and Fort Max.

Emerje

Another thing which has crossed my mind: okay so, the 'Prime Masters' are basically Titan Masters with an emblem for a face and are compatible with Titans Return bodies. However, it seems like the center of the Matrices for the leader-class PotP figures are also compatible with the Prime Masters.

Do the regular Matrix crystals themselves unfold into little robots?

Skritz wrote:Do the regular Matrix crystals themselves unfold into little robots?

No, the Matrix(s) don't turn into robots, neither do the enigmas that come with the combiner voyagers. The only ones that turn into robots are the Prime Masters sold on their own.

Emerje

So does anyone else not really care about the unique enigma that come with the voyagers and plan on giving the first 2 to TR Overlord for his boob doors?

Emerje wrote:

Skritz wrote:Do the regular Matrix crystals themselves unfold into little robots?

No, the Matrix(s) don't turn into robots, neither do the enigmas that come with the combiner voyagers. The only ones that turn into robots are the Prime Masters sold on their own.

Emerje

You know, as much as this make sense it makes me a bit sad. That said, do the Matrix and Enigma still have the shape to plug into a neck? Because as dumb as it may (and will) look I....really want to do it just to amuse myself.

By the way, what are the odds that we'll see Bomb-Burst and/or Waveride? Because, oh man, its something which I've said before but it just seem so damn wrong if we can't get these pair of trio completed, especially given they were all major characters in Masterforce. Hell we even got Metalhawk as a pretender shell decoy suit in PotP so it just seem to me we really should get ought to get something to complete these teams. That said, I'm told the (sadly cancelled) Grand Maximus pretender shell is apparently Waveride. So there is hope.

Skritz wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Skritz wrote:Do the regular Matrix crystals themselves unfold into little robots?

No, the Matrix(s) don't turn into robots, neither do the enigmas that come with the combiner voyagers. The only ones that turn into robots are the Prime Masters sold on their own.

Emerje

You know, as much as this make sense it makes me a bit sad. That said, do the Matrix and Enigma still have the shape to plug into a neck? Because as dumb as it may (and will) look I....really want to do it just to amuse myself.

By the way, what are the odds that we'll see Bomb-Burst and/or Waveride? Because, oh man, its something which I've said before but it just seem so damn wrong if we can't get these pair of trio completed, especially given they were all major characters in Masterforce. Hell we even got Metalhawk as a pretender shell decoy suit in PotP so it just seem to me we really should get ought to get something to complete these teams. That said, I'm told the (sadly cancelled) Grand Maximus pretender shell is apparently Waveride. So there is hope.

Bomb-Burst has been leaked, as the suit for Megatronus.

And yes, the Decoy suit that would have come with Grand Maximus was Waverider. So I'd say there's more than just hope at this point

Btw I'm gonna be fuming if someone doesn't create a Starscream Titan Master! so that you can connect him in behind Trypticon's head

Stuartmaximus wrote:Btw I'm gonna be fuming if someone doesn't create a Starscream Titan Master! so that you can connect him in behind Trypticon's head

Takara's making one.

Skritz wrote: Yet, at the same time, I'm in the minority of people who actually find the gimmick of power up interesting.

Count me in the minority. I'm one of these guys who need gimmicks.

And I love these two of course. The only little thing I'm not in love is the head of the small Orion Pax figure.

Skritz wrote:I'm not sure: will they be better once in hand?

Considering most of the toys in these pics are mistransformed...

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So does anyone else not really care about the unique enigma that come with the voyagers and plan on giving the first 2 to TR Overlord for his boob doors?

I guess, everybody owning Overlord ?

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Btw I'm gonna be fuming if someone doesn't create a Starscream Titan Master! so that you can connect him in behind Trypticon's head

Takara's making one.

are they that's news to me

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Btw I'm gonna be fuming if someone doesn't create a Starscream Titan Master! so that you can connect him in behind Trypticon's head

Takara's making one.

are they that's news to me

It's the ghost Starscream head that comes with Octane.

Skritz wrote:That said, do the Matrix and Enigma still have the shape to plug into a neck? Because as dumb as it may (and will) look I....really want to do it just to amuse myself.

Yes, but they lack a joint there so if you use it as a head you won't be able to turn it, unless it's a Voyager or Leader that doesn't use the peg as a neck.



Emerje

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Btw I'm gonna be fuming if someone doesn't create a Starscream Titan Master! so that you can connect him in behind Trypticon's head

Takara's making one.

are they that's news to me

It's the ghost Starscream head that comes with Octane.

And a retool of Nightbeat to boot.

Tiny head joint and translucent plastic. This is, in no way, terrifying.