Prowl4 wrote:I think inferno is a missed opportunity to include heatwave and the other rescue bots in chug. It'd be cool to get those characters.
Now that's a damn good idea!
Prowl4 wrote:I think inferno is a missed opportunity to include heatwave and the other rescue bots in chug. It'd be cool to get those characters.
You haven't heard? John Warden considers Beast Wars "too obscure" for this brand.Autobot Roadburn wrote:Aw, was kind of hoping it would be Beast Wars Inferno before I saw the pictures. No glory for the colony today.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Burn wrote:Prowl4 wrote:I think inferno is a missed opportunity to include heatwave and the other rescue bots in chug. It'd be cool to get those characters.
Now that's a damn good idea!
Sodan-1 wrote:I love how the bios for the Prime Masters tell us to "imagine" the powers at work. You just know if they didn't someone would try to sue Hasbro for selling a toy that can't actually control time.
Kurona wrote:No, see, you don't understand. Characters like Heatwave, Bulkhead and Cheetor are faaaar too obscure to put in Generations. Now Inferno? Wolfwire? Dreadwind? Everyone knows who they are.
Munkky wrote:Kurona wrote:No, see, you don't understand. Characters like Heatwave, Bulkhead and Cheetor are faaaar too obscure to put in Generations. Now Inferno? Wolfwire? Dreadwind? Everyone knows who they are.
As far as I'm concerned, the "Too obscure" argument became invalid the second Lione and Shuffler happened. Speaking of which, where the Hell is Toraizer?
Munkky wrote:Kurona wrote:No, see, you don't understand. Characters like Heatwave, Bulkhead and Cheetor are faaaar too obscure to put in Generations. Now Inferno? Wolfwire? Dreadwind? Everyone knows who they are.
As far as I'm concerned, the "Too obscure" argument became invalid the second Lione and Shuffler happened. Speaking of which, where the Hell is Toraizer?
Sabrblade wrote:I get the feeling Inferno was made because he was yet another one of the 1984-1985 Autobot Cars that were being made into Combiners in CW. The TCC prose story "Lively Pursuit" strongly implied that Inferno was to have been the torso of one more Hasbro CW Combiner that never got released called Firestormer, whose limbs would have consisted of four other unreleased-at-retail-the-time 1984-1985 Autobot Cars: Hoist (CW Trailbreaker's pretool), Ratchet (who saw release only as the BotCon 2016 custom class figure), Bluestreak (who only saw release in the TFSS), and Sideswipe (a potential straight redeco of CW Breakdown).
That Inferno gets to see the light of day at all, let alone as a mass retail Hasbro release two-three years after the line he was developed for has ended, is a bit remarkable.
Sabrblade wrote:I get the feeling Inferno was made because he was yet another one of the 1984-1985 Autobot Cars that were being made into Combiners in CW. The TCC prose story "Lively Pursuit" strongly implied that Inferno was to have been the torso of one more Hasbro CW Combiner that never got released called Firestormer, whose limbs would have consisted of four other unreleased-at-retail-the-time 1984-1985 Autobot Cars: Hoist (CW Trailbreaker's pretool), Ratchet (who saw release only as the BotCon 2016 custom class figure), Bluestreak (who only saw release in the TFSS), and Sideswipe (a potential straight redeco of CW Breakdown).
That Inferno gets to see the light of day at all, let alone as a mass retail Hasbro release two-three years after the line he was developed for has ended, is a bit remarkable.
Flashwave wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I get the feeling Inferno was made because he was yet another one of the 1984-1985 Autobot Cars that were being made into Combiners in CW. The TCC prose story "Lively Pursuit" strongly implied that Inferno was to have been the torso of one more Hasbro CW Combiner that never got released called Firestormer, whose limbs would have consisted of four other unreleased-at-retail-the-time 1984-1985 Autobot Cars: Hoist (CW Trailbreaker's pretool), Ratchet (who saw release only as the BotCon 2016 custom class figure), Bluestreak (who only saw release in the TFSS), and Sideswipe (a potential straight redeco of CW Breakdown).
That Inferno gets to see the light of day at all, let alone as a mass retail Hasbro release two-three years after the line he was developed for has ended, is a bit remarkable.
I would love to know if thats true, but TFCC has long made figures out of current molds anyway. Inferno from Hot Spot takes about 2 seconds to come up with. So I wouldnt rely on a story to prove Hasbro intentions.
The real indicator would be if Takara Ratchet came from TFCC tooling, or if TFCC used the tooling because Hasbro said "Nah, we're not gonna get to that." that might indicate more as to whether or bot there was another combiner on the chopping block
Takara Ratchet uses the same headsculpt as BotCon Ratchet. Fun Pub confirmed at BotCon 2016 that the new headsculpt toolings for Ratchet, Reflector/Flash Sentry, Counterpunch, and Toxitron all came from Hasbro, who gave those toolings to Fun Pub and told them to use them so as to get them out to the fans since Hasbro at the time had no plans to release those toolings themselves.Flashwave wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I get the feeling Inferno was made because he was yet another one of the 1984-1985 Autobot Cars that were being made into Combiners in CW. The TCC prose story "Lively Pursuit" strongly implied that Inferno was to have been the torso of one more Hasbro CW Combiner that never got released called Firestormer, whose limbs would have consisted of four other unreleased-at-retail-the-time 1984-1985 Autobot Cars: Hoist (CW Trailbreaker's pretool), Ratchet (who saw release only as the BotCon 2016 custom class figure), Bluestreak (who only saw release in the TFSS), and Sideswipe (a potential straight redeco of CW Breakdown).
That Inferno gets to see the light of day at all, let alone as a mass retail Hasbro release two-three years after the line he was developed for has ended, is a bit remarkable.
I would love to know if thats true, but TFCC has long made figures out of current molds anyway. Inferno from Hot Spot takes about 2 seconds to come up with. So I wouldnt rely on a story to prove Hasbro intentions.
The real indicator would be if Takara Ratchet came from TFCC tooling, or if TFCC used the tooling because Hasbro said "Nah, we're not gonna get to that." that might indicate more as to whether or bot there was another combiner on the chopping block
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
Kurona wrote:No, see, you don't understand. Characters like Heatwave, Bulkhead and Cheetor are faaaar too obscure to put in Generations. Now Inferno? Wolfwire? Dreadwind? Everyone knows who they are.
AS: On that note, in Titans Return, every mold got a second use except Hot Rod and Galvatron. Is there something else in the works?
JW: No, I think it’s that some characters are more unique designs, so it’s a little bit more difficult to make a second head for them. But we do plan ahead and build in a second head into the toy plan from the beginning. So we’ll work with Takara and kinda get their suggestions, and some of them end up being kinda weird and obscure, like a lot of the little Titan Master assortment guys, they’re like Beast Wars characters or characters produced in their markets.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:To clarify something I mentioned before, I wasn't kidding when I said that John Warden called Beast Wars "obscure". Behold this interview snippit:AS: On that note, in Titans Return, every mold got a second use except Hot Rod and Galvatron. Is there something else in the works?
JW: No, I think it’s that some characters are more unique designs, so it’s a little bit more difficult to make a second head for them. But we do plan ahead and build in a second head into the toy plan from the beginning. So we’ll work with Takara and kinda get their suggestions, and some of them end up being kinda weird and obscure, like a lot of the little Titan Master assortment guys, they’re like Beast Wars characters or characters produced in their markets.
Prowl4 wrote:Burn wrote:Prowl4 wrote:I think inferno is a missed opportunity to include heatwave and the other rescue bots in chug. It'd be cool to get those characters.
Now that's a damn good idea!
They would be a small bridge from rescue bot fans to chug fans then and they already are known through their tv series and IDW could certainly expand upon them. I'm just surprised hasbro don't see these angles rather than constantly reverting to characters not really seen since g1.
Skritz wrote:Sabrblade wrote:To clarify something I mentioned before, I wasn't kidding when I said that John Warden called Beast Wars "obscure". Behold this interview snippit:AS: On that note, in Titans Return, every mold got a second use except Hot Rod and Galvatron. Is there something else in the works?
JW: No, I think it’s that some characters are more unique designs, so it’s a little bit more difficult to make a second head for them. But we do plan ahead and build in a second head into the toy plan from the beginning. So we’ll work with Takara and kinda get their suggestions, and some of them end up being kinda weird and obscure, like a lot of the little Titan Master assortment guys, they’re like Beast Wars characters or characters produced in their markets.
I guess in Geewunner language, obscure translate back into english as 'beloved characters for fans of the franchise who grew up in the mid '90'. Then again, Beast Wars characters do get figures here and there. Can't imagine how horrible it must be for RiD 2001 or Unicron trilogy fans who are adults by now. That Thrilling 30 Starscream and that Titans Return Tidal Wave must have been quite the event for them...and probably the only love the part of the franchise they grew up with is going to get for the next 10-20 years.
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
Qwan wrote:which suggests to me that it's simply the oversaturation of G1 making me respect it moreso than any inherent "greater value" as some of the design team seem to be under the impression that it has.
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