Mechastrike wrote:is that Spike or Daniel with a girl?
Convotron wrote:Aeros wrote:Do you have any kind of degree in any form of art?
A degree can help inform an opinion. A background in art, either as an artist or education in art, can also help. However, appreciation, which includes critical analysis, of art doesn't require formal education or a stamp of approval such as a degree.
Ravage Eject wrote:Now for some, this is a less than successful venture in that regard, hey it happens. Not every new idea is a moneymaker right? That doesn't mean he is wrong to try something new just because it is an "established brand." Transformers doesn't just belong to the G1 fans. It belongs to any and all who love the concept. Trust me, I hate Cybertron, Aramada, Kiss players etc etc....lol I liked Beast Wars, G1 and Transformers Animated where others do not. I have said it on here before, but I believe there is, and always will be, room for different interpretations of designs and characters within this universe, even if I personally do not care for every one.
Seibertron wrote:I agree that "bad artwork" was not the best choice of words. The faces are extremely distracting, they're extremely plain, and the Autobots look like they're evil now. It's pretty radical departure from anything that's been done before ... and with no reason other than an artist wanting to express his own artistic impression on an established brand.
Mkall wrote:Seibertron wrote:I agree that "bad artwork" was not the best choice of words. The faces are extremely distracting, they're extremely plain, and the Autobots look like they're evil now. It's pretty radical departure from anything that's been done before ... and with no reason other than an artist wanting to express his own artistic impression on an established brand.
Maybe you've been following this more closely than I have Seibs, but I thought I read somewhere that Hasbro approached IDW and "asked politely" to have the next series take a more movie-verse feel?
Mechabreaker wrote:I don't like how they are putting the names of the autobots near the characters in the comic issue. It was fine in issue one, but I know who Optimus Prime is, I don't think I would have forgotten what the characters look like just after one issue.
Counterpunch wrote:I'll go into the street and slap someone's momma for a Leader-1 repaint.
Seibertron wrote:Mkall wrote:Seibertron wrote:I agree that "bad artwork" was not the best choice of words. The faces are extremely distracting, they're extremely plain, and the Autobots look like they're evil now. It's pretty radical departure from anything that's been done before ... and with no reason other than an artist wanting to express his own artistic impression on an established brand.
Maybe you've been following this more closely than I have Seibs, but I thought I read somewhere that Hasbro approached IDW and "asked politely" to have the next series take a more movie-verse feel?
That wasn't the version of the story that I had heard. I'm pretty sure that it was stated on Ryall's blog back in September about this art style being Don driven but I can't find the actual quote right now that I'm remembering.
http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2009/09/t ... ssion.html
Now let me ask you THE question: based on discussions been held on the forums here at Seibertron.com, it seems that fans are thinking of this as a reboot purely based on the change in art style for the Transformers. I know you've read the responses and that some of us either love it, hate it or still can't decide. What influenced the change to the representation of our comic book heroes?
A.S.: I'm glad you asked THE question. I'll address a couple of things that I've seen on the boards and whatnot. First, there was no decision to make the G1 guys look more like movie universe characters. If I thought the movie books would out sell G1, I'd just make more movie books. Isn't that the simple solution if that were the case? And honestly, while I can appreciate the argument, I don't see the new character art as reflecting movie styling. They're all in their original color schemes and retain the key elements that make them identifiable; this is a new, updated style for this contemporary series. I think the art is amazing and I've been really happy to see that a lot of posts on the boards now that the issue has come out have shown that people are starting to dig it. Not everyone, mind you, but it looks like some of the jets are cooling a bit. We'll see. The thing to keep in mind is that Don is still figuring them out too. He's testing here and there.
Seibertron wrote:Convotron wrote:Aeros wrote:Do you have any kind of degree in any form of art?
A degree can help inform an opinion. A background in art, either as an artist or education in art, can also help. However, appreciation, which includes critical analysis, of art doesn't require formal education or a stamp of approval such as a degree.
I agree that "bad artwork" was not the best choice of words. The faces are extremely distracting, they're extremely plain, and the Autobots look like they're evil now. It's pretty radical departure from anything that's been done before ... and with no reason other than an artist wanting to express his own artistic impression on an established brand.
I also don't like that their bodies keep getting changed story after story between artists. I'm up for an artists interpretation, but I don't like that their bodies keep changing for no reason.
No one here needs a degree in order to be able to express their opinion about a certain art style. I'm allowed to express mine and you're allowed to express yours. And while you might not like my art style from ten years ago, I think my ability to draw certainly allows me to be able to express my opinion ... though for those of you who can't draw, you are most definitely entitled to your opinions as well.
I am in no way comparing my artwork from 13 years ago to the work that these artists today do. I'm just stating that I certainly have my own opinions based on my own ability to draw.
SlyTF1 wrote:I dont understand why the hell anyone would see a movie for the story, if you want a story, go read a f*ckin book.
Serpent O - R wrote:First things first. Seibs, i love the site and i remember the success of 'Megatron 101' from back in the day. But, this is a news/information site and, as such, it should not be biased one way or the other. If you want to express your personal opinions in an editorial, you need to present the opposing view as well as the reasons behind behind both views.
Everyone's Got The Same Face
No emotion - Don Figueroa's rebellious art style which showcases unemotional TFs continues to grace (disgrace?) IDW's "all-new" ongoing Transformers series. Love it or hate it, the ink is hitting the paper and this is what we're getting. Check out the preview of the next issue of this controversial art style by clicking here.
Seibertron wrote:
Everyone's Got The Same Face
No emotion - Don Figueroa's rebellious art style which showcases unemotional TFs continues to grace (disgrace?) IDW's "all-new" ongoing Transformers series. Love it or hate it, the ink is hitting the paper and this is what we're getting. Check out the preview of the next issue of this controversial art style by clicking here.
Since some of you make it sound like there's some horrible statement on the homepage, I wanted to review what is actually there. I agree with the first poster that confronted me about the use of the title "Bad Artwork: Part 2". I think that might have been up for ten or twenty minutes before I changed it to a more factual statement: "Everyone's got the same face", because, well, everyone's got the same face. There's nothing unique about any of the Autobot faces except for Prime's face. I also stated on the homepage blurb that the faces are unemotional ... because they are. In none of the faces do you see a smile, a grin, a frown ... there is no emotion. The faces are all plain, unemotional, very cold and "robotic" (as in an uncaring machine, not a sentient robot) ... these are not generally traits that apply to the Transformers.
You stated that I should offer both sides of the story. In the homepage text it says "grace (disgrace?)" which leads to both viewpoints, I use the phrase "love it or hate it" and referred to the art style as "controversial" because it is (as you can see from our posts). I also called it "rebellious" because it is also that since Don wanted to depart from the traditional style, hence calling it "rebellious" because he's "rebelling".
I really refrained from making outrageous statements, or even stating what my views were about the facial artwork other than making two statements that I feel no one can really argue against: their faces are all the same and they look unemotional. If anyone can successfully argue against either of those two statements, I would be open to suggestions about how the text should be worded.
Seibertron wrote:
Everyone's Got The Same Face
No emotion - Don Figueroa's rebellious art style which showcases unemotional TFs continues to grace (disgrace?) IDW's "all-new" ongoing Transformers series. Love it or hate it, the ink is hitting the paper and this is what we're getting. Check out the preview of the next issue of this controversial art style by clicking here.
Since some of you make it sound like there's some horrible statement on the homepage, I wanted to review what is actually there. I agree with the first poster that confronted me about the use of the title "Bad Artwork: Part 2". I think that might have been up for ten or twenty minutes before I changed it to a more factual statement: "Everyone's got the same face", because, well, everyone's got the same face. There's nothing unique about any of the Autobot faces except for Prime's face. I also stated on the homepage blurb that the faces are unemotional ... because they are. In none of the faces do you see a smile, a grin, a frown ... there is no emotion. The faces are all plain, unemotional, very cold and "robotic" (as in an uncaring machine, not a sentient robot) ... these are not generally traits that apply to the Transformers.
You stated that I should offer both sides of the story. In the homepage text it says "grace (disgrace?)" which leads to both viewpoints, I use the phrase "love it or hate it" and referred to the art style as "controversial" because it is (as you can see from our posts). I also called it "rebellious" because it is also that since Don wanted to depart from the traditional style, hence calling it "rebellious" because he's "rebelling".
I really refrained from making outrageous statements, or even stating what my views were about the facial artwork other than making two statements that I feel no one can really argue against: their faces are all the same and they look unemotional. If anyone can successfully argue against either of those two statements, I would be open to suggestions about how the text should be worded.
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