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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:21 am

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To be honest, this is what I expected. He is bigger than Dinobot so you take that price and up it by 25% and there you go.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:41 am

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*Whelp* I knew he was going to be expensive...oh well, I'll just have to settle with looking from afar. Might dip with the primal rerelease.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:46 am

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I mean, it took me more than a decade to get the complete set of BotCon 2006 exclusives, which are among the most expensive BotCon figures on the secondary market, and about 17 years to get a vintage MISB Car Robots Brave Maximus. The things we want that are really expensive can be purchased if we bide our time, play the long game, and eventually go for them when we find ourselves in the position to afford them. We just have to set aside some cash to save up until we have enough to get them, however long that may take.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby wilcosu35 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:57 am

This is a must buy for me :)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Bucky » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:29 am

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As disheartening as that price is at first glance, it does say right below it that “price is not final and may decrease.” Plus this is just for BBTS. Ordering through HLJ, Amiami, and Anime-Export are generally the cheaper options. Especially when you preorder through the latter, although you do pay upfront, rather than when the product comes in.

It might not be so bad.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:31 am

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Bucky wrote:As disheartening as that price is at first glance, it does say right below it that “price is not final and may decrease.” Plus this is just for BBTS. Ordering through HLJ, Amiami, and Anime-Export are generally the cheaper options. Especially when you preorder through the latter, although you do pay upfront, rather than when the product comes in.

It might not be so bad.
Japanese retail price is listed as equating to $315, so BBTS's price isn't that far higher.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Bucky » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:37 am

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Oof. Didn’t see him listed anywhere else, so I didn’t notice that. Disappointing, but I’ll just wait and see what the best option turns out to be, if there is one.
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Postby Big Grim » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:41 am

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Cobotron wrote: :shock: By Odin's beard! Look at that price!!!!!

Stone the crows! That's pricey!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:42 am

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Bucky wrote:As disheartening as that price is at first glance, it does say right below it that “price is not final and may decrease.” Plus this is just for BBTS. Ordering through HLJ, Amiami, and Anime-Export are generally the cheaper options. Especially when you preorder through the latter, although you do pay upfront, rather than when the product comes in.

It might not be so bad.

It will be for many, and even the US if new custom fees and Tarifs are imposed.

Him being in a big box will make him expensive to ship from Japan internationally so a lot of your savings will be eaen up by shipping and possible customs fees.

Before customs fees, this toy would be around 260 USD shipped from Japan (220 USD thanks to anime export's 30% off plus 40$ for shipping).

That is better but still pretty huge a price.

And if you are hit by customs in the UK, Canada or elsewhere then you end up paying upwards of 300$ when all is said and done.

What I hate is that part of that price is due to added electronics and new recordings I will never ever use and do not care for.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:51 am

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william-james88 wrote:To be honest, this is what I expected. He is bigger than Dinobot so you take that price and up it by 25% and there you go.

Yeah, but expecting isn't the same as actually seeing the price. Sticker shock is real.

I want this figure, I want it a lot, but damn, that is a really high price even by the 3rd party standards I'm use to. It's hard to justify.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:03 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:
william-james88 wrote:To be honest, this is what I expected. He is bigger than Dinobot so you take that price and up it by 25% and there you go.

Yeah, but expecting isn't the same as actually seeing the price. Sticker shock is real.

I want this figure, I want it a lot, but damn, that is a really high price even by the 3rd party standards I'm use to. It's hard to justify.

I think it will be easier to justify in restrospect when it sells on e-bay for 500$ in 2 years.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:40 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
william-james88 wrote:To be honest, this is what I expected. He is bigger than Dinobot so you take that price and up it by 25% and there you go.

Yeah, but expecting isn't the same as actually seeing the price. Sticker shock is real.

I want this figure, I want it a lot, but damn, that is a really high price even by the 3rd party standards I'm use to. It's hard to justify.

I think it will be easier to justify in restrospect when it sells on e-bay for 500$ in 2 years.

300 or 500 matters not much to me. Once a figure crosses that $300 mark, it becomes a super difficult justification for me. Depends on what the KO market does, I guess. I think my final decision will depend on what my feelings on MP Dinobot are once I have him in hand.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:52 am

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They dont seem to be making KO BW MPs
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:11 am

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william-james88 wrote:To be honest, this is what I expected. He is bigger than Dinobot so you take that price and up it by 25% and there you go.

Sorry, I don't see any actual justification that makes him this much, other than that the pre-orders for dinobot sold out and they thought they could get away with more >:oP
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:42 pm

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william-james88 wrote:What I hate is that part of that price is due to added electronics and new recordings I will never ever use and do not care for.


I made mention of this before and how I see such electronics as nothing but a negative. What they should do, is pull the electronics out of MP Megatron, out of MP Primal and throw them in the bin. Use the default light piping and accessories as with the majority of the Masterpiece Collection, because THAT is what it is supposed to be. A line for collectors. Electronics are for toys, which at their price point these barely ascribe to that definition.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:19 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:What I hate is that part of that price is due to added electronics and new recordings I will never ever use and do not care for.


I made mention of this before and how I see such electronics as nothing but a negative. What they should do, is pull the electronics out of MP Megatron, out of MP Primal and throw them in the bin. Use the default light piping and accessories as with the majority of the Masterpiece Collection, because THAT is what it is supposed to be. A line for collectors. Electronics are for toys, which at their price point these barely ascribe to that definition.

The only reason I can see them putting them in is people saying they like this sort of thing. :-? Is this something the Japanese fans go crazy for?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:44 pm

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Holy fudge.... that is worse than I thought. He is big, but he's not Magnus or Star Saber big. And his transformation shouldn't be that complicated, unlike Dinobot.

Yeeeeeeeesh. Still pre-ordering him, and I think I will get the Primal re-release too, but damn. That is my *hopeful* christmas bonus used on my Birthday gift!
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Postby fenrir72 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:41 pm

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Slagging electronics! I despise them! Hopefully this isn't a fricking clusterfrickon like God Omega Prime sound chip mixup!

Same with MP Convoy ver 3.0, frickon electronics! :evil:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:59 pm

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One of Megatron's electronic phrases works in the sound effect of his robot-to-beast mode transformation, which I do find to be kinda cool.

Though, yeah, that price. I think this might be the most expensive that a normal retail line Transformers toy by Hasbro or Takara has ever been priced at for normal mass retail in the entire history of the brand.

The only things that can compare have been exclusives or non-Hasbro/Takara items.
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Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:13 pm

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Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:29 am

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Argh, why does takara have to make such nice things :-(
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:04 am

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Takara Relases Official Images for Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:10 am

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Takara's Transformers site has uplaoded new official images of MP 43 Beast Wars Megatron which also include clearer versions of the images we prviously saw in the Figure King magazine.

We get a good look at the T-Rex mode and how its eyes can move and also how the pupil can dissapear when used in robot mode.

We also get a full designer interview, which Google translated for us below. With the knowledge that the MSRP is above $300 USD, how many of you are still as excited as before? And have any of you chosen not to get him? The Japanese retailers, like site sponsor HLJ, usually have them for less (leaving the importing costs for you to handle), but how much less would he have to be for those of you still on the fence? Let us know!



Q. What was the background of the commercialization this time?

From the very beginning, when the decision to release Beast Wars in the masterpiece series came out, there was a concept itself. Actually, the size of the convoy was also calculated back from the megatron, as we have created comparison charts of major characters at the beginning of the development of the convoy. So, I think that the size of the overwhelming megatron in the symbolic scene that the convoy throws away is reproduced.

Q. What is the point of the product?

Since the current masterpiece is aiming for the reproducibility as if it comes out from the TV, it is necessary to include "to incorporate the talking gimmick", "to reproduce the shape of the middle of the play" To realize mobility beyond common sense "was the point. Megatron is a character that towed the popularity of the work with the talk part, so we recorded a total of 30 kinds of sounds. The voice also contains the multiplication with Black Widow and Navigator, but Ichi push is the reproduction of the opening of 13 episodes. Starting with the melody called Jahn, "Wahaha, I am the destroying great megatron, it is the beginning of the beast wow!" And recorded until the song started. As the sound effect enters firmly into the chorus part, I would like you to take it in hand, remembering the animation of that time and get depressed.

Q. What was the hardest part of development?

The obvious difference between the BW version of the toy at the time and the play was on the back. It was the most impressive place behind the head, so it was the most difficult point at how to show this like a play. Since you can not change the area of ​​the dinosaur's gawa, it is hidden and reproduced by distributing with that hand. Even so, I have folded the leftover part on my back. Besides, BW version of toy at that time is changing for dinosaurs because of the circumstances that the knees are getting shorter, but in this masterpiece version we aim at a balance that does not feel discomfort in both dinosaurs and robots.

Q. What is the evolutionary point of the recent masterpiece series?

In order to reproduce it more thoroughly, it is possible to move to the place where you move the eyeball of the dinosaur mode. Since the head of the dinosaur mode is clogged with sound units, it has a minimum space-saving structure, but by making it movable, you can enjoy the change of facial expressions and the white eye condition of robot mode can be reproduced It is. In the fourth bulletin, the Destron Major corps destroyed megatron appeared, but I'd like to be able to arrange the main characters of Cybatron and Destron all together in a masterpiece, so please look forward to future developments as well.

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Postby Big Grim » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:15 am

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