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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby padfoo » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:21 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:Well Transformers and scale have never exactly got along well- and considering most of the Season 3 episodes were animated by the notoriously shoddy AKOM (leading to some truly awful size changing) and the general disregard for the scale chart the animators had...yeah, I don't care. He looks good next to him anyway, and Ultra Magnus' size seems to be one of those things nobody can agree on (let's not forget that time he was able to pick up the constructicons in his hands like they were toys- which is hilarious considering they combine into a robot that at one point held Prime in his fist in a similar manner!).

He looks a good size to me anyway.


Thanks for those memories. Season 3 was so awful that even as a kid I was always thinking wth. Magnus's size is fine Grimlock on the other hand is a whole other story!
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:22 pm

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You guys can have this one. I don't think the blue looks as nice as the G1 toy, not even close. :BANG_HEAD:
Because it's based on the cartoon's blue.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby G1COLLECTOR » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:51 pm

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G1COLLECTOR wrote:BIG FAT PASS !!! >:oP

You guys can have this one. I don't think the blue looks as nice as the G1 toy, not even close. :BANG_HEAD:
Because it's based on the cartoon's blue.

I don't care even thought your right ! LOL :sad:
Most MP's are after designed after the Cartoon colors. However, they go back and forth from G1 Toy colors and Cartoons. Look at Takara's MP10 and Hasbro's MP Prime. Starscream, Soundwave's eyes, and this goes threw out the whole Transformers toy line. Which to make them like, G1 Toy colors, or like cartoon. Just saying.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby megatronus » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:02 pm

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G1COLLECTOR wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
G1COLLECTOR wrote:BIG FAT PASS !!! >:oP

You guys can have this one. I don't think the blue looks as nice as the G1 toy, not even close. :BANG_HEAD:
Because it's based on the cartoon's blue.


I don't care even thought your right ! LOL :sad:
Most MP's are after designed after the Cartoon colors. However, they go back and forth from G1 Toy colors and Cartoons. Look at Takara's MP10 and Hasbro's MP Prime. Starscream, Soundwave's eyes, and this goes threw out the whole Transformers toy line. Which to make them like, G1 Toy colors, or like cartoon. Just saying.

Want to try again? Because I have an idea of what you're trying to say, but it's not at all clear.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:06 pm

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G1COLLECTOR wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
G1COLLECTOR wrote:BIG FAT PASS !!! >:oP

You guys can have this one. I don't think the blue looks as nice as the G1 toy, not even close. :BANG_HEAD:
Because it's based on the cartoon's blue.

I don't care even thought your right ! LOL :sad:
Most MP's are after designed after the Cartoon colors. However, they go back and forth from G1 Toy colors and Cartoons. Look at Takara's MP10 and Hasbro's MP Prime. Starscream, Soundwave's eyes, and this goes threw out the whole Transformers toy line. Which to make them like, G1 Toy colors, or like cartoon. Just saying.
If you're trying to use Hasbro's MP releases as examples of MPs using toy colors then there's your problem. This isn't a Hasbro release. This is Takara, who goes for cartoon colors every time since MP-9.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Robogeek1973 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:30 pm

I definitely prefer the darker blue over the G1 toy's blue.


It just looks better to me.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Evil Eye » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:18 pm

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I do like the toy blue, but I think it would look a tad iffy on this figure. I'm glad they're going with the cartoon shade of blue.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby megatronus » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:18 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:I do like the toy blue, but I think it would look a tad iffy on this figure. I'm glad they're going with the cartoon shade of blue.

I'm sure if Hasbro takes a whack at this, we'll get a lighter toy-esque blue.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Robogeek1973 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:25 pm

megatronus wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:I do like the toy blue, but I think it would look a tad iffy on this figure. I'm glad they're going with the cartoon shade of blue.

I'm sure if Hasbro takes a whack at this, we'll get a lighter toy-esque blue.


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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:36 pm

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I wouldn't be to hasty in judging the color yet G1C. There are time, you probably experienced this as well when photographing a figure using the latest digicams, the colors are a bit different from the real thing. G1 UM for example when photographed looks , well like the pics in the site. dark royal(?) blue. But hands on, the color is a little lighter.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:48 pm

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https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/545021241610887168

Some Transform steps for UM.

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Btw guys, which came first? Titanium UM with the no core robot fig or the IDW UM spotlight? Just want to know for trivial pursuit.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:27 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Btw guys, which came first? Titanium UM with the no core robot fig or the IDW UM spotlight? Just want to know for trivial pursuit.
Probably SL: UM since, while both it and the Titanium came out in 2007, the comic came out in January of that year.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Desslok2201 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:30 pm

well..... I LOVE IT!!!!! I LOVE IT SO FRIGGIN' MUCH!!!!!
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Agamemnon » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:02 pm

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Heh. It appears that the entire bot form is contained within the trailer. The cab may not be needed at all. Maybe that solves the butt-flap issue for some people? Image

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:05 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Btw guys, which came first? Titanium UM with the no core robot fig or the IDW UM spotlight? Just want to know for trivial pursuit.
Probably SL: UM since, while both it and the Titanium came out in 2007, the comic came out in January of that year.


Is it okay to infer that with the exception of DonFig whose TF art were techincally transform capable, the SL UM version must have been THEN based on the upcoming Titanium UM?

I raise the question based on the almost similar TF sequence MP UM has to Titanium UM.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby xyl360 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:56 am

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fenrir72 wrote:Btw guys, which came first? Titanium UM with the no core robot fig or the IDW UM spotlight? Just want to know for trivial pursuit.
Probably SL: UM since, while both it and the Titanium came out in 2007, the comic came out in January of that year.

But aren't toys engineered/designed like at least a year in advance of them even going into production, much less actually being available on store shelves? At least that's what I've heard from interviews and such, although of course it may be different in this case since (I don't think) Has/Tak actually designed this one (it was the Micromachines guys or something, right?). If so, then that would put the toy at least a year before the comics, and while I'm certain some level of advance planning goes into the comics, I sincerely doubt those guys are planning this stuff a year ahead unless it's some kind of major arc for the entire series or something.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:07 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:well..... I LOVE IT!!!!! I LOVE IT SO FRIGGIN' MUCH!!!!!


Yeah! I also like how Tomy implemented that wheel swapping trick. At least UM won't be "roller skating" in robot mode. Can't wait until the end of December. :DANCE:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby dragons » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:52 am

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Desslok2201 wrote:well..... I LOVE IT!!!!! I LOVE IT SO FRIGGIN' MUCH!!!!!


Yeah! I also like how Tomy implemented that wheel swapping trick. At least UM won't be "roller skating" in robot mode. Can't wait until the end of December. :DANCE:


Wont he still be able to roller skate? His wheels still out bit
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:37 am

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dragons wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:well..... I LOVE IT!!!!! I LOVE IT SO FRIGGIN' MUCH!!!!!


Yeah! I also like how Tomy implemented that wheel swapping trick. At least UM won't be "roller skating" in robot mode. Can't wait until the end of December. :DANCE:


Wont he still be able to roller skate? His wheels still out bit


The wheels seem to be decorative.............won't roll.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:17 am

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fenrir72 wrote:Btw guys, which came first? Titanium UM with the no core robot fig or the IDW UM spotlight? Just want to know for trivial pursuit.
Probably SL: UM since, while both it and the Titanium came out in 2007, the comic came out in January of that year.

But aren't toys engineered/designed like at least a year in advance of them even going into production, much less actually being available on store shelves? At least that's what I've heard from interviews and such, although of course it may be different in this case since (I don't think) Has/Tak actually designed this one (it was the Micromachines guys or something, right?). If so, then that would put the toy at least a year before the comics, and while I'm certain some level of advance planning goes into the comics, I sincerely doubt those guys are planning this stuff a year ahead unless it's some kind of major arc for the entire series or something.
I was answering the question in regards to "Which was released first?" rather than "Which was conceived first?" since the former is easier to deduce than the latter.

And yes, Galoob made the Titaniums instead of Hasbro.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Evil Eye » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:46 pm

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So, his wheels hide in his feet to be replaced by...slightly different wheels?

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:00 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:So, his wheels hide in his feet to be replaced by...slightly different wheels?

OK then.
It's the little things like this that make this so special. That they went this extra mile of swapping out the functional wheels for the vehicle mode with the cartoon-accurate wheels for the robot mode in order to both keep the toy from slipping around on roller skates and adhere to the cartoon design to the nth degree is really impressive.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Evil Eye » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:12 pm

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Yeah, I see. It still seems amusing though (a bit like the Voyager DOTM Prime, who has a fake window chest that...covers up his existing window chest...)

Still beats the original Legends Jazz and his amazing roof-grille...
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