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Good news for fans who still prefer to buy toys at brick and mortar rather than online. The two voyagers class figures from Legacy Evolution wave 1 were found at Target. The image below was taken by tf fan Bryanwes who found Tarn and Leo Prime at his local Target in Fair Lakes, Virginia, and posted it on the TFW site.

Each case has 2 Leo Primes and 1 Tarn. Those who ordered them from Amazon.com should be getting them soon as well.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:My nearest Walmart never carried any Commander class toys.

I never, ever saw any Commanders at Walmart too. Just online, my local geek store, and at Toys R Us.

Right now, you can still find Rodimus Prime in TrU's brick and mortar stores on clearance at 84$CAN. Strangely, I never saw Motormaster in a TrU store.

Motormaster sold like crazy in Canada. Looks like people were ok with that $140 price.

Ironically, that's also the price my local geek store sell Motormaster for. He also have a few Rodimus Primes for 120$. That's the price I paid at Amazon. Looks like it's sold out at Amazon.

Still plenty of Leader SS RotF Scavengers to go around though, online and off. But this time around, ironically at full price. Why so many tho?

Sabrblade wrote:At one Target, I did see empty shelf spots reserved for Motormaster, but they were always empty with no Motormasters on the shelf. And now those spots are gone, too.

Exact same thing at my Target.

Like most figures there are issues with the individual Stunticons, and even with Menasor as well.
And yet, overall, both the figures and combined form are really pretty well done.

Not sure how Hastak can match this with other future combiners when the torso bots don’t have the support (literally) of a trailer type of component.
I’m sure eventually it will get sorted out.
But either way, this Menasor is pretty special.
Especially for those of us that appreciate how G1 accurate this version is.

Fortunately I preordered Motormaster shortly after listing so he wasn't that difficult to get, I had a $20 gift card at Amazon so he only ended up costing me $60! Preordered Wildrider the same time but paid full price for him.

Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

DeathReviews wrote:Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

He looks like a borzoi!

DeathReviews wrote:Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

Isn't that the rule for 99% of the transformers ever released?

My WalMarts are still on Wave 1 over Legacy. Thank God for online buying.

First-Aid wrote:My WalMarts are still on Wave 1 over Legacy. Thank God for online buying.

Same

-Kanrabat- wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

Isn't that the rule for 99% of the transformers ever released?

Maybe, but not to this extreme…
Most artwork stays pretty close to the actual figure designs, maybe hiding hollowness/gaps…
But that Leo artwork is a fully organic-looking lion, appearing like something from a movie or tv show…
And in comparison, that figure is nowhere even close.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

Isn't that the rule for 99% of the transformers ever released?

Maybe, but not to this extreme…
Most artwork stays pretty close to the actual figure designs, maybe hiding hollowness/gaps…
But that Leo artwork is a fully organic-looking lion, appearing like something from a movie or tv show…
And in comparison, that figure is nowhere even close.

-- "Corporate need you to tell the difference between this picture and this picture:"





-- "They're the same picture."

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

Isn't that the rule for 99% of the transformers ever released?

Maybe, but not to this extreme…
Most artwork stays pretty close to the actual figure designs, maybe hiding hollowness/gaps…
But that Leo artwork is a fully organic-looking lion, appearing like something from a movie or tv show…
And in comparison, that figure is nowhere even close.

-- "Corporate need you to tell the difference between this picture and this picture:"





-- "They're the same picture."

HAHA!! YES!!!!

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:My WalMarts are still on Wave 1 over Legacy. Thank God for online buying.

Same

Same here. They outdid themselves on Earthrise.

-Kanrabat- wrote:-- "Corporate need you to tell the difference between this picture and this picture:"





-- "They're the same picture."

ZeroWolf wrote:It would be pretty unlikely unless it was part of an exclusive subline. Hasbro have made it clear they like some diversity amongst alt modes (hence why the early waves of combiner wars wasn't team specific).

We had three Stunticons in a wave during Combiner Wars. I understand variety and diversity, but then we end up with situations where a number of people will never have a complete Menasor.

I would assume tooling budget plays into it as well as other factors. I'm sure for collectors it might have been more convenient to have them all out at the same time, but if retail isn't getting them in consistently what good is it? It would only be beneficial for online shoppers to get them all at one time. There's also the fact of breaking them up so it's not as hard on the wallet having to get them all at once, at least for those who only need Stunticons and none of the others like me. This current lull in product would have been a blessing if I was to buy them all at the same time, because for me t's been a blight for a good several months.

Aside from finally getting Rumble the other day, Wheelie a month ago and Elita-1 and Wild Rider about two months ago. So it definitely would have been absorbable compared to other times when more were available that I wanted.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:It would be pretty unlikely unless it was part of an exclusive subline. Hasbro have made it clear they like some diversity amongst alt modes (hence why the early waves of combiner wars wasn't team specific).

We had three Stunticons in a wave during Combiner Wars. I understand variety and diversity, but then we end up with situations where a number of people will never have a complete Menasor.

And a lot of people still didn't get Menasor in CW because their stores skipped Wave 2 and moved onto wave 3. But its also the factors that Till-all-r1 says above me. Basically, if Hasbro could have done an all Stunticon wave...they would have done it. That they didn't is its own proof. This (outside of a boxset) was the only way to handle them at retail.

Did the people that didn't find Commander Jetfire at Walmart look in the right place? Most sightings came from the car shelves, not the Transformers section. That's where I initially found him, then he got moved to a toy overstock area before going to clearance in the span of two months or so.

Emerje

That CC Jetfire at Walmart was a complete cluster. I found mine in the action figure aisle, just not with the other TFs. This happens often though. For all the talk of plan-o-grams, I'm not sure if it's because the employees are incompetent, or just don't care, but they don't know how to handle variance at all, so when a new random item arrives they just place it anywhere, And sometimes won't even make a price tag on the shelf for it.

I've seen some weird stuff. Even so much as adding plastic peg holes to Voyager and Leader toys so they can hang from pegs, which of course rip over time because of the weight.

Emerje wrote:Did the people that didn't find Commander Jetfire at Walmart look in the right place? Most sightings came from the car shelves, not the Transformers section. That's where I initially found him, then he got moved to a toy overstock area before going to clearance in the span of two months or so.

Emerje

While I wasn't looking for Jetfire, mainly because I didn't know anything about him until it was too late. I stopped playing wild goose hunt for stuff long ago, if I can't find it in a logical location near actual like product then I don't find it. Now I'll look on the overhead above said section as well as the whole AF isle just in case, or even behind other products. But going into the doll section or bike accessories feels like a fools errand and often just a waste of my time. I've rarely ever found what I'm looking for in a completely different section/area. Aside from something that looked discarded on the way to somewhere else.

Also how do you "miss" a Commander Class box? I can understand a DLX or core being lost somewhere out of place but the size box of a CC isn't something you would generally look over and not see. lol

As I've said I haven't seen a CC in a store since 2019 and any time I've ever gone into a Walmart they've had almost zero product for pretty much any product I was looking for, other than core class which doesn't interest me. Maybe it was simply due to the fact someone else was more dialed into shipments and got there before me every time and bought what little they did get in. IDK..

I can understand why some Walmart stores in certain high theft areas would pass on such an expensive item and just not carry it, that might be why some could find him either.

Till-all-R1 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Did the people that didn't find Commander Jetfire at Walmart look in the right place? Most sightings came from the car shelves, not the Transformers section. That's where I initially found him, then he got moved to a toy overstock area before going to clearance in the span of two months or so.

Emerje

While I wasn't looking for Jetfire, mainly because I didn't know anything about him until it was too late. I stopped playing wild goose hunt for stuff long ago, if I can't find it in a logical location near actual like product then I don't find it. Now I'll look on the overhead above said section as well as the whole AF isle just in case, or even behind other products. But going into the doll section or bike accessories feels like a fools errand and often just a waste of my time. I've rarely ever found what I'm looking for in a completely different section/area. Aside from something that looked discarded on the way to somewhere else.

Also how do you "miss" a Commander Class box? I can understand a DLX or core being lost somewhere out of place but the size box of a CC isn't something you would generally look over and not see. lol

As I've said I haven't seen a CC in a store since 2019 and any time I've ever gone into a Walmart they've had almost zero product for pretty much any product I was looking for, other than core class which doesn't interest me. Maybe it was simply due to the fact someone else was more dialed into shipments and got there before me every time and bought what little they did get in. IDK..

I can understand why some Walmart stores in certain high theft areas would pass on such an expensive item and just not carry it, that might be why some could find him either.

The minions found Jetfire and Kingdom Rodimus in the toy sections at Walmart, so not EVERY store puts them in weird, out of the way places. But enough of them do that it makes searching problematic. Lack of consistency has made a lot of confusion.

The distribution issues were also inconsistent. Depending on which country, and even which region and/or state, some stores would see tons of some figures, and none of the others in a given wave. And vice-verse. Like with Earthrise - some states probably got tons of Megatron, Trailbreaker and Mirage figures. But other areas didn't see any at all, and had to hope they could buy it on Hasbro Pulse. Or go crawling to Ebay and pay scalper prices.

Not all of it is Hasbro's fault. Not all of it is the stores' fault. But both of them together have problems which leave buyers feeling like they're working together to make it impossible to find/buy some figures. Need we bring up Velocitron Cosmos again...?

DeathReviews wrote: Need we bring up Velocitron Cosmos again...?

Please don't. I did finally break down and buy from a UK seller because it was the cheapest and I figured if I don't do it now he'll only clime in price. Or I'll have to wait for some variation in a different packaging. Luckily I had some PayPal Money I didn't even know about/forgotten so I figured why not if it's not technically out of pocket.

you gotta do what you gotta do with some Bots and Cosmos is one of those for me.

Till-all-R1 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote: Need we bring up Velocitron Cosmos again...?

Please don't. I did finally break down and buy from a UK seller because it was the cheapest and I figured if I don't do it now he'll only clime in price. Or I'll have to wait for some variation in a different packaging. Luckily I had some PayPal Money I didn't even know about/forgotten so I figured why not if it's not technically out of pocket.

you gotta do what you gotta do with some Bots and Cosmos is one of those for me.

Well - for my sake, I hope Hasbro repents and does a re-issue, so those of us who aren't willing to pay the Ebay/overseas markup can get this figure.

But on the other hand, that would mean folks like you, who DID pay the scalper prices, would wind up eating the difference. The way it's going, some people are bound to get scroo'd....

DeathReviews wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote: Need we bring up Velocitron Cosmos again...?

Please don't. I did finally break down and buy from a UK seller because it was the cheapest and I figured if I don't do it now he'll only clime in price. Or I'll have to wait for some variation in a different packaging. Luckily I had some PayPal Money I didn't even know about/forgotten so I figured why not if it's not technically out of pocket.

you gotta do what you gotta do with some Bots and Cosmos is one of those for me.

Well - for my sake, I hope Hasbro repents and does a re-issue, so those of us who aren't willing to pay the Ebay/overseas markup can get this figure.

But on the other hand, that would mean folks like you, who DID pay the scalper prices, would wind up eating the difference. The way it's going, some people are bound to get scroo'd....

Yeah...I think it's the folks expecting a like for like reissue.