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Postby bodrock » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:09 am

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And I totally get that we gotta fund what we want - I did so with Victorion at full MSRP! But I never saw Sky Lynx till Ross had him. I would have skipped G2 Menasor, but could NOT at that price. :STARSEEKERS:

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Postby Fc203 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:02 am

COOL I need skydive and firefly to complete superion hope i find a superion set
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:00 am

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william-james88 wrote:If you have ever purchased a Takara item instead of a hasbro item because you preferred the paint apps, then the blame is the same since the Hasbro item was not encouraged and hasbro sees none of your money.
Hear, hear, that's what I've been saying.

I totally vote with my wallet, but I'll wait for a sale on figures I was going skip anyway. I'll pass on the G2 sets even at that price. Now Comps or Vicky might get picked up if I spot them low enough; Vicky has never been on the radar and Comps was a hard maybe.

We could also make an argument that buying what ever Hasbro puts out re-enforces that what they are currently doing is acceptable. If their toys stop selling, maybe they will put a little more effort into it and we'll stop waiting for sales or buying the "superior" Takara products.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:13 am

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I actually purchased G2 Superion & Menasor at *near* full price when they initially came out. As the months passed however, and I deduced that Hasbro was NOT going to make a G2 Defensor, I decided to sell them, and skip Fruiticus altogether (as I am an all-or-nothing collector) Thankfully I sold my G2 sets before the prices started to come down, so I broke even. I paid about $70 for Victorion, and $90 for Computron, just because they were easily obtainable holes in my UW/CW "perfect" army I am building. Liokaiser should be fairly easy to obtain in time, and I am still watching UW Devastator. The price came down recently to $179 on BBTS, but stock still is not moving, so I am hoping for an additional price drop soon.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:24 pm

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I picked up Victorion for about $38 USD or so from Amazon a little over a month ago. That was a great deal! She really does look a lot better color wise in person. The dull reds against the light blue-turquoise really convey the sense of "rust."

I'm tempted on the G2 sets, but am also a bit turned off that 1) getting a proper G2 Defensor is still quite the uncertainty and 2) Hasbro screwed up G2 Bruticus by using the G1 Decepticon sigils.

If I found a Hasbro Computron for $40, I'd bite, despite already having the far superior Unite Warriors version from Takara. I want that Scrounge! I also have some ideas for repurposing the rest of the figures as different "neo-G1" characters. They'd be new "Second Stringers" members of the Technobots, a la the likes of Alpha Bravo, Off Road, and Rook for their respective combiner teams.

As for Leo Kaiser, I'm still hoping Takara is going to give us a stupendous surprise in a few months. Unite Warriors seems to still be going strong for them.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby nycPrime » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:26 pm

G2 superion spotted at tj maxx in nyc. No interest in it so it's still there.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:27 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:I also have some ideas for repurposing the rest of the figures as different "neo-G1" characters. They'd be new "Second Stringers" members of the Technobots,


That's similar to what I did. CW Computron is my *Betatron*, and UW is my True Computron ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:38 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:I also have some ideas for repurposing the rest of the figures as different "neo-G1" characters. They'd be new "Second Stringers" members of the Technobots,


That's similar to what I did. CW Computron is my *Betatron*, and UW is my True Computron ;)


Yeah, I considered going that route as well, but I think Hasbro's "official" Betatron configuration, according to the box artwork, is the Optimus Maximus team with the arms swapped for the legs and visa versa. I'll come up with something else for the "Technobots B Team."
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:48 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:As for Leo Kaiser, I'm still hoping Takara is going to give us a stupendous surprise in a few months. Unite Warriors seems to still be going strong for them.

You know I love the UW line too and I want to believe in everyone's high hopes that takara will deliver but for some reason I just cant get passed how totally uncanny that would be. Like I cant even imagine it. Sure, the technobots were totally different from hasbro but everything came from an existing mold/design and even if there has been a new mold, it was still going by the design of all limbs (arms folding to the side and legs being an acordion). But here we are talking about two deluxes that can fit onto eachother and still fit with the scarmble city limb system of combiner wars. Even Devastator didnt overpate that way with each limb being made for that position. If Takara achieved it, I would buy it for sure and I would be really impressed. But I just cant conceptualise it. I mean this is the same company that is just doing straight redecos of Titans Return (bodies) when all fans were hoping they would at least fix Galvatron's head.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:49 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Yeah, I considered going that route as well, but I think Hasbro's "official" Betatron configuration, according to the box artwork, is the Optimus Maximus team with the arms swapped for the legs and visa versa. I'll come up with something else for the "Technobots B Team."


I never really put any stock in that, After all, Hasbro's "official" configuration for Superion includes Dragstrip ;) The only official configurations I follow are the TT ones
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Postby o.supreme » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:01 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Like I cant even imagine it. Sure, the technobots were totally different from hasbro but everything came from an existing mold/design and even if there has been a new mold, it was still going by the design of all limbs (arms folding to the side and legs being an accordion). But here we are talking about two deluxes that can fit onto each other and still fit with the scramble city limb system of combiner wars. Even Devastator didn't operate that way with each limb being made for that position. If Takara achieved it, I would buy it for sure and I would be really impressed. But I just cant conceptualize it.


I can imagine it, and it is awesome ;) . But yes highly improbable. In the entire UW line TT came up with two new deluxe molds. Now they would be tasked with making an additional two new deluxe molds, (instead of a Voyager) that *break* the pattern and would not be based on anything remotely existing thus far. An upper torso (Leozak), and a lower mid-section (Jallguar) Not impossible, but still...not likely.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:10 pm

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william-james88 wrote:I mean this is the same company that is just doing straight redecos of Titans Return (bodies) when all fans were hoping they would at least fix Galvatron's head.


To be fair, Takara did remold all the "Headmasters" heads to resemble their show (and oddly enough Sunbow's artwork from The Rebirth in many cases).
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Postby nycPrime » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:15 pm

Do you guys still think it's likely that Takara will eventually release a UW Liokaiser (within the next 12 mos)? And if so, would it likely contain no new molds, and be a standard voyager torso + 4 deluxe limbs? And I'm guessing the torso would be Silverbolt's mold, with the limbs more or less similar to Hasbro's version?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:16 pm

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william-james88 wrote:I mean this is the same company that is just doing straight redecos of Titans Return (bodies) when all fans were hoping they would at least fix Galvatron's head.


To be fair, Takara did remold all the "Headmasters" heads to resemble their show (and oddly enough Sunbow's artwork from The Rebirth in many cases).

:lol: I knew someone would point that out.
That's why I wrote "bodies" in brackets. its all good ;)^
I had not realized the Sunbow thing though, I thought it twas just headmasters being used for the inspiration.

nycPrime wrote:Do you guys still think it's likely that Takara will eventually release a UW Liokaiser (within the next 12 mos)? And if so, would it likely contain no new molds, and be a standard voyager torso + 4 deluxe limbs? And I'm guessing the torso would be Silverbolt's mold, with the limbs more or less similar to Hasbro's version?


Oh man, I really hope no one hates me for repeating myself, but you asked so nicely. I personally dont think they will release him. Takara seems to want to do everything perfectly (to the point of colour coding Bruticus' feet). They have released oddballs, but those were combiners that didnt exist before. One thing we know though is that they dont half ass things. So, just going by that logic, I would think that they would either give us what we are all dreaming of or nothing at all. They have skipped some hasbro releases for others (ie the g2 sets) and hasbro has skipped some of their sets as well to the point that both lines look super independent of eachother right now. So since that perfect Liokaiser is just so out of reach, I think they just wouldnt do him.

Instead, what I think is far more probable, is they release hasbro's Liokaiser as a totally new wacky combiner, with different colours. Like they did with megatronia. To me, it would be that or nothing, just based on all we have seen so far.
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:30 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Instead, what I think is far more probable, is they release hasbro's Liokaiser as a totally new wacky combiner, with different colours. Like they did with megatronia. To me, it would be that or nothing, just based on all we have seen so far.


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Postby william-james88 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:40 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, maybe not him, but maybe an homage to the EU Rescue Force made from 4 Liokaiser molds? Hellbat and Guyhawk would have to have original decos, but that would complete the fictional Autobot Team, no?

yeah, I could see that. or something totally wacky. I mean what makes more sense for takara to do with CW's Liokaiser if they do use those molds:
a) release him similarly to how he is released by hasbro
b) create a new combiner system at the deluxe scale for the middle torso
c) use the molds to make a wacky new combiner that will be explained in a wacky comic

Option C makes more sense from what we have seen. But boy would it piss people off if they start with a sulouette. Imagin its a liokaiser silouette and its revealed to be big rescue force :lol:
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Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:27 pm

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That's why I wrote "bodies" in brackets. its all good ;)^
I had not realized the Sunbow thing though, I thought it twas just headmasters being used for the inspiration.


Technically, that's correct. The similarity to the Sunbow models is mainly for the Decepticon Headmasters, whose heads didn't deviate much between the original toys, "The Rebirth," and "The Headmasters" series. So, it's more coincidental than intentional on Takara's part. The Autobots are another, very messy, matter, though.
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Postby crazyfist » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:48 pm

I went to the TJMAXX in Winston-Salem, NC and found the G2 Menasor. They have one left. It is $39.99. There were several Onslaughts, Scattershots and one Motormaster all for $14.99.

I also noticed that Walgreens has dropped their Titans Return price down from $19.99 to $17.99 if people are interested...
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Postby nycPrime » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:36 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Is it only at TJ Maxx that the Collection Packs are being found at, or are there any at other places like Ross or Marshalls?

Don't know about Ross, but Marshalls and TJ Maxx have the same parent company and generally have the same stock. There is a TJ by my office and a Marshalls I go to sometimes on weekends, and they usually carry the same inventory of TFs.
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Postby nycPrime » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:48 pm

william-james88 wrote:So since that perfect Liokaiser is just so out of reach, I think they just wouldnt do him.

Dang WJ, I hope you're wrong about this. The Hasbro version doesn't do anything for me and I'd settle for a Silverbolt-as-torso based version from Takara.
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Postby bodrock » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:03 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:The rumors are true - both Menasor and Superion box sets were at a TJ Maxx nearby. I say, they WERE.... Mwhu hahahhahaaaaaaaa....!


I've always loved the Stunticons. They're CARS! But 'CONs!

Cons that live tha thug life lol :michaelbay:

But yeah, I originally skipped CW Menasor cuz I simply couldn't find all the guys, and this set was nowhere at retail. For $40, I also got over his silly bullhorns-look and G2 coloring. 8-)
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #350 - Oops! All Optimus
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