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[Sigma Magnus]

I just pre-ordered him last knight no problem though

Ha, nice!

And he is still very much available right here: http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

Bookmarked, thanks! Now I just have to beg for it...

Considering you live in New York, I would consider TFsource: http://tfsource.com/transformers-unite/computron/

Now, at first glance he does seem like $30 more, but factoring in shipping it is about if not a bit less than ami ami, which had given me shipping quotes no cheaper than $50 and i live a state below you. Plus, all you need to do is throw in a transformer that is $15.01 or greater in price and you get free shipping (which for me got me a Roadbuster for $19)

Oh, thank you!

[william-james88]

So do we still have no clue who the little shuttle guy with Scrounge is?

I think it's still called Payload, just a recolor - basically there to sweeten the deal

Yup, he is indeed still Payload.

Actually I think he is unnamed in this instance. No name, no identity.

[Sowndwave76]

Here are my thoughts on this set in terms of individual figures:

Scattershot: When I look at the alt mode, that shade of red-violet clashes pretty badly with the red. But overall, not horrible.
Can these be the correct colors when the one I returned to the store was much more simple, with a silver gun?

Strafe: Alt mode looks good enough, but the bot could be another character... The red and orange face just look so weird.

Nosecone: This is just a complete joke imo... The alt mode just looks silly-- It's a tank with a drill bit instead of a canon, and only half of the drill can reach anything in front of it. The tank would run into anything the drill's trying to cut through. This bot mode is probably the worst of the group imo. It's just a hot mess. Looks like a knock-off of a knock-off.

Afterburner: The alt mode has a bit too much red. If those red parts were orange, the white, black and even green windshield wouldn't bother me. Bot mode isn't bad, but I don't like the red lower legs.

Lightspeed: bot mode-- all I see when I look at him is Streetwise with a new paintjob. If the lightbar wasn't so obvious in the alt mode, it would be fine... I look at that and it almost looks like a hairbow to me. Hello Kitty is probably driving this thing.

Scrounge: He's fine I guess. I'm not really impressed by either mode though.

Computron: The huge fushia chestplate and mouthplate are just bad. The feet look a little too much like the tops of rocky cliffs.
I'd re-name this Mish-Mashutron. This may sound harsh, but Scrounge on the shoulder just looks stupid and unnecessary.
The best part of this is the new hands... Not exactly saying much.

[Kurona]

Just saying, but the Nosecone alt mode in those pictures is incorrect. According to official Hasbro pictures the drill should be attached to the back of the 'tank' rather than the front of the turret. It should only be attached to the turret in leg mode.
Almost certainly not going to change anyone's opinion on it (the bot mode is still the worst most unfitting thing for a character since... Just about anything), but I don't quite enjoy seeing decisions made upon incorrect information.

[Kurona]

http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/04/09/comb ... ges-313728

Here we are. Still not that great and it worked better for Botcon Ramhorn, but it's at least better than slapping the drill in the same place Brawl had his gun.

[william-james88]

I don't quite enjoy seeing decisions made upon incorrect information.

Where have you been all my life

[Kurona]

I don't quite enjoy seeing decisions made upon incorrect information.

Where have you been all my life

<3

[shajaki]

For value, better feet, and price: I wholeheartedly disagree with you.

And I disgree with you. Takara's Computron will cost me the same amount if I buy him from Japan than if I buy the Hasbro version from BBTS. It might cost you less depending on how much shipping you pay, but the price for both in their respective markets is THE SAME.

Thanks Will, saved me from having to say it

As for HasbroTron, I don't hate it. UW is clearly better, but for some reason I still find him charming. I really can't put my finger on it, but maybe it's because they're so drastically different I can justify having both (better than I could UW and CW Superion for example). Owning Quantron might effect my feeling too, whereas if neither excite me I still have a tried and true backup. Either way, I'm happy to have all three

As for those upset about Hasbro's torso and head, this is still a perfectly viable solution:

[Wolfman Jake]

As for HasbroTron, I don't hate it. UW is clearly better, but for some reason I still find him charming. I really can't put my finger on it, but maybe it's because they're so drastically different I can justify having both (better than I could UW and CW Superion for example).

Hasbro's Computron could easily be repurposed in our collections as "Betatron." I've already got alternate names for the limb bots picked out for my own head cannon.

So do we still have no clue who the little shuttle guy with Scrounge is?

I think it's still called Payload, just a recolor - basically there to sweeten the deal

Yup, he is indeed still Payload.

Actually I think he is unnamed in this instance. No name, no identity.

And there is no other like him.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

So do we still have no clue who the little shuttle guy with Scrounge is?

I think it's still called Payload, just a recolor - basically there to sweeten the deal

Yup, he is indeed still Payload.

Actually I think he is unnamed in this instance. No name, no identity.

And there is no other like him.

Well played my good man

I'm interested in Hasbro's Nosecone the most, simply because he'd fit right in among the likes of Alpha Bravo with CW Optimus Prime. I just wish we had a blue "jet" and a red Emergency vehicle...

[Agamemnon]

For value, better feet, and price: I wholeheartedly disagree with you.

And I disgree with you. Takara's Computron will cost me the same amount if I buy him from Japan than if I buy the Hasbro version from BBTS. It might cost you less depending on how much shipping you pay, but the price for both in their respective markets is THE SAME.

And as for value, that is definitely off. Hasbro has 3 straight up redecos out of the 5 main bots. Every single Takara couterpart is retooled. There are 5 new headsculpts. Scattershot has a retooled chest for both the combiner chest and his robot mode chest. Plus the Takara version has new weapons. You dont seem to have factored that in the value, but you should have if you were being fair. You get as much new stuff with Takara as with Hasbro if not more.

WJ88, maybe he's factoring in Scrounge and No One (Payload) as being more value than the added weapons? I know I would. Two more transforming bots? Score!

(For the record, I'll be getting both Hasbro and Takara. They are, indeed, enough different.)

[Edit] Though to be fair to the above, one transforms into a wheel.

[Kurona]

So do we still have no clue who the little shuttle guy with Scrounge is?

I think it's still called Payload, just a recolor - basically there to sweeten the deal

Yup, he is indeed still Payload.

Actually I think he is unnamed in this instance. No name, no identity.

And there is no other like him.

Well played my good man

I'm interested in Hasbro's Nosecone the most, simply because he'd fit right in among the likes of Alpha Bravo with CW Optimus Prime. I just wish we had a blue "jet" and a red Emergency vehicle...

[william-james88]

WJ88, maybe he's factoring in Scrounge and No One (Payload) as being more value than the added weapons? I know I would. Two more transforming bots? Score!

Oh I know he was counting those but he wasnt counting all the new tooling and the new heads in the UW version. Thats why I said that both sets equally have the same amount of new stuff not available in the other set. One has new tooling and new heads and new guns and the other one has more toys and the new hands and feet.

[Sabrblade]

So do we still have no clue who the little shuttle guy with Scrounge is?

I think it's still called Payload, just a recolor - basically there to sweeten the deal

Yup, he is indeed still Payload.

Actually I think he is unnamed in this instance. No name, no identity.

At BotCon, the figure was said to still just be Payload.

[Dagon]

Wow!

That looks awful.

Yeah, it does. As someone else already said, if the hands and feet are the best things going for a combiner that's not a good thing. I have loved every minute of Combiner Wars, but this is just a bad set. Lightspeed doesn't even look like they finished painting him.

Just saying, but the Nosecone alt mode in those pictures is incorrect. According to official Hasbro pictures the drill should be attached to the back of the 'tank' rather than the front of the turret. It should only be attached to the turret in leg mode.
Almost certainly not going to change anyone's opinion on it (the bot mode is still the worst most unfitting thing for a character since... Just about anything), but I don't quite enjoy seeing decisions made upon incorrect information.

It still looks awful. In fact, now it looks like someone was just trying extra hard to say "nuh uh, it's not Brawl, it's a totally different toy."

[william-james88]

So do we still have no clue who the little shuttle guy with Scrounge is?

I think it's still called Payload, just a recolor - basically there to sweeten the deal

Yup, he is indeed still Payload.

Actually I think he is unnamed in this instance. No name, no identity.

At BotCon, the figure was said to still just be Payload.

But will it be G1 payload or movie payload?

[Sabrblade]

So do we still have no clue who the little shuttle guy with Scrounge is?

I think it's still called Payload, just a recolor - basically there to sweeten the deal

Yup, he is indeed still Payload.

Actually I think he is unnamed in this instance. No name, no identity.

At BotCon, the figure was said to still just be Payload.

But will it be G1 payload or movie payload?

[Sigma Magnus]

Hasbro's Computron could easily be repurposed in our collections as "Betatron." I've already got alternate names for the limb bots picked out for my own head cannon.

Now you've got me curious. Care to share?

[fenrir72]

Fist and feet awesome! The rest, well nice.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I'm interested in Hasbro's Nosecone the most, simply because he'd fit right in among the likes of Alpha Bravo with CW Optimus Prime. I just wish we had a blue "jet" and a red Emergency vehicle...

One that's not originally part of a team, like the new members Alpha Bravo, Offroad and Rook, as well as "new-body" redecos like Blast Off. Tho G2 Air Raid could be used as a base...

[Kurona]

I'm interested in Hasbro's Nosecone the most, simply because he'd fit right in among the likes of Alpha Bravo with CW Optimus Prime. I just wish we had a blue "jet" and a red Emergency vehicle...

One that's not originally part of a team, like the new members Alpha Bravo, Offroad and Rook, as well as "new-body" redecos like Blast Off. Tho G2 Air Raid could be used as a base...

Could go with Ironhide for the red module.

[Ironhidensh]

**** finally. Real Groove is on his way. Now to get Rook ready for ebay.

[Bumblebee21]

**** finally. Real Groove is on his way. Now to get Rook ready for ebay.

where did you get it from?

[Ironhidensh]

**** finally. Real Groove is on his way. Now to get Rook ready for ebay.

where did you get it from?

Amazon.

[Bumblebee21]

**** finally. Real Groove is on his way. Now to get Rook ready for ebay.

where did you get it from?

Amazon.

ok thanks