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[that1guysittingthere]

Something tells me these protectobots will go for quite a bit on the secondary market in a year or two.

I blame the AOE and RID one step changers for filling up the pegs. Or the stores for not restocking their shelves/pegs.

[william-james88]

Something tells me these protectobots will go for quite a bit on the secondary market in a year or two.

I blame the AOE and RID one step changers for filling up the pegs. Or the stores for not restocking their shelves/pegs.

I dont blame any of that. It is clear that interest in generations toys are at an all time high this year. This is merely the case of more demand than anticipated. While it is good news, showing Hasbro that more inovative toys are as succesful, which helps them determine the demand for next year, it does suck for those who do want these toys.

The reason I forsee the prices being pretty high is that depending on availability, many kids or fans will get only parts of combiners, so there will be a demand down the line to complete sets. This will raise the prices on the secondary market considerably.

[Ironhidensh]

Something tells me these protectobots will go for quite a bit on the secondary market in a year or two.

I blame the AOE and RID one step changers for filling up the pegs. Or the stores for not restocking their shelves/pegs.

I dont blame any of that. It is clear that interest in generations toys are at an all time high this year. This is merely the case of more demand than anticipated. While it is good news, showing Hasbro that more inovative toys are as succesful, which helps them determine the demand for next year, it does suck for those who do want these toys.

The reason I forsee the prices being pretty high is that depending on availability, many kids or fans will get only parts of combiners, so there will be a demand down the line to complete sets. This will raise the prices on the secondary market considerably.

I blame the lack of sales (from AOE and beast hunters) in my area causing the stores to order/stock far less transformers.

[Optimum Supreme]

Something tells me these protectobots will go for quite a bit on the secondary market in a year or two.

Really? Interesting. Now that they've finally hit here, they're actually much easier to find than wave 1/2 were. I really only saw wave 1 once, in a Meijers, then occasionally a random single here and there (one aerialbot in a TRU, one Dragstrip in some toy store in a mall). Wave 2, only time I ever saw at all was once, an those weren't even proper wave 2 but foreign editions (without the comics) somehow got into a local Target. Wave 3 I've already seen more than that.

Must be another instance of Gears last year. Everyone seemed to have a hard time finding that wave of the legends, yet here they were all over the place, and it was the previous waves that were hard to find.

Freakin distribution...

[william-james88]

Something tells me these protectobots will go for quite a bit on the secondary market in a year or two.

Really? Interesting. Now that they've finally hit here, they're actually much easier to find than wave 1/2 were. I really only saw wave 1 once, in a Meijers, then occasionally a random single here and there (one aerialbot in a TRU, one Dragstrip in some toy store in a mall). Wave 2, only time I ever saw at all was once, an those weren't even proper wave 2 but foreign editions (without the comics) somehow got into a local Target. Wave 3 I've already seen more than that.

Must be another instance of Gears last year. Everyone seemed to have a hard time finding that wave of the legends, yet here they were all over the place, and it was the previous waves that were hard to find.

Freakin distribution...

Yeah, its pretty messed up. Although we do know that wave 1 and 2 did hit saturation, but that didnt happen with Wave 3 and now Wave 4 is at our doorstep. Glad you got Gears though, there were certain states that didnt even get him.

[Cobotron]

I believe Gears was a Meijer exclusive in the States. If Optimum Supreme is in Michigan, it makes sense. Meijer is a Michigan based store, and they only barely reach out into the surrounding states.

[no-one]

Are we talking about this guy?

If so I saw a ark load in Louisiana when that wave hit.

[Cobotron]

Really? What retailer?

[no-one]

Really? What retailer?

Good ole wally world. A pretty good distribution at that. I would say I saw him at most of the WM's I visited in various southern parts of the state.

Kinda wish I would have nabbed one.

[Ironhidensh]

Yeah, Gears was all over the northern Indiana Walmart stores. Meijer, too.

[Cobotron]

Well I'll be! Never once saw him in the middle Midwest. I had to import him from Canada via ol' Willy-J himself.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Ah Gears, never could find that little guy. sigh...

As for the protectobots: I got the limbs from Entertainment Earth on a discount since they were "store quality" and not mint. Hot Spot and Groove were from amazon, both used, so I ended up getting the lot pretty cheap, which is nice. It is also unique in how on amazon at least the protectobots cannot stay at low prices and they always go up, dip a bit to almost retail price, then rise up and repeat. I blame MTMTE with First Aid

[brokenchopstick]

Quick question from the UK: are Wave 4 easy to find at retail in the States? Considering picking up some of the deluxe limbs and will be in America in about a month or so.

[Hellscream9999]

Quick question from the UK: are Wave 4 easy to find at retail in the States? Considering picking up some of the deluxe limbs and will be in America in about a month or so.

It's really, stupidly, hit-or-miss; for instance, my local stores are sitting with empty pegs, have so for months; but my target just recently (like 4 weeks ago) had a mirage sitting on the shelf, and them they sat empty for 3 weeks and then last week several cases of wave 4 were sitting there, so I finished the set. They also had their first shipment of wave 3 voyagers and their first leader class in UM.

My advice would be to check out the sightings thread for the state you'll be in, and maybe contact a member on here that lives near there and request help.

[RAR]

Gears and Acid Storm are available in UK The Entertainer toyshop stores.

As for AOE being inferior to Combiner Wars on balance I will agree with that when taken as a whole, but it's not like either are high waterline lines in all regards. I would say that Beast Hunters is better than either though in every way when taken as a whole and even more so if you take all of the Transformers Prime sub-lines together.

The reason I say that is that there is a certain lack of creativity in the transformation due to the combination gimic and some slight cheapness to the brand - little things like not bothering to properly paint Optimus' windows just bug me ; not that didn't happen in Beast Hunters as it did - The TRU twin pack Voyager Predaking is lacking paint on his head for example. and also one of the Predaking toys has his mouth hinged wrong with the teeth on the wrong jaw.

But I would say Beast Hunters was a pretty good toyline that didn't embarrass Hasbro in general terms, and Combiner Wars is a "Functionally Adequate" toy line that though it isn't on the face of it much different in quality it does have some issues that drop it down a point or two if one was grading out of 100%.

For example even more missing paint than ever before, a hell of a lot of remoulds and repaints and not such a huge number of new moulds.
hardly any toys have painted wheels these days but it's starting to get a bit of an embarrassment now. Then there is the whole leg ratchets issue.

I consider it not unfair to compare Beast Hunters to Combiner Wars they are both lines that can be considered to be middle ranking lines to some - but if I recall wasn't Beast Hunters still made by "Proper" designers and not the newbies unlike Combiner Wars.

Not that - is a big issue either as there was plenty of serious quality issues in Generations toys designed by the Hasbro old guard too.

I EXPECT next years lines to do better Heck I insist on it - if they don't if they make shovelware then I will just go full on 3rd party and ignore Hasbro completely.

It can happen I'm sure quite a few Star Wars fans have moved over to premium 12" lines now as they are not feeling the love for the 3.75" toys - not to mention Gi Joe is as dead as Duck in a Nuclear Test site these days.

As I so often say YOU CAN NOT HAVE ALL THE FANS PUT UP WITH PREMIUM PRICES FOR NON PREMIUM PRODUCTS FOREVER !

[Primeultimus]

Combiner Wars Deluxe Brawl in package

From Transformers Addicts :
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

[Optimum Supreme]

I look forward to seeing that hit the shelves in my area by approximately next 4th of July.

[william-james88]

A pretty cool photo was posted on Daim Choc's facebook page just an hour ago. It shows Combiner Wars Brawl in package. This would be the US packaging since a comic book is included, rather than the card. This toy is notable for being the first fully new mold for 2016's continuation of the Combiner Wars line. This would be the best indication of the finished deco we will be getting since this is the first time we see the figure in its finished state rather than a painted prototype or a digital stock image. However, this is still simply a production sample and a slight change in deco is still possible before mass production.

The facebook post states:

First look at Combiner Wars Deluxe Brawl in package. Thanks to T3.
Note: Production Sample.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Cool image. Really hoping the chest just looks weird due to the packaging

[Burn]

Cool image. Really hoping the chest just looks weird due to the packaging

The angle of the photo probably doesn't help either.

[Primeultimus]

Updated my original post to credit Daim Choc not able to tag his reports name on facebook.

[brokenchopstick]

Quick question from the UK: are Wave 4 easy to find at retail in the States? Considering picking up some of the deluxe limbs and will be in America in about a month or so.

It's really, stupidly, hit-or-miss; for instance, my local stores are sitting with empty pegs, have so for months; but my target just recently (like 4 weeks ago) had a mirage sitting on the shelf, and them they sat empty for 3 weeks and then last week several cases of wave 4 were sitting there, so I finished the set. They also had their first shipment of wave 3 voyagers and their first leader class in UM.

My advice would be to check out the sightings thread for the state you'll be in, and maybe contact a member on here that lives near there and request help.

Thanks, I'll do that! Was just weighing up the cost (literally) of paying out more for UK-based sellers (in this case, Masterforce) against the cheaper dollar. The risk of missing out entirely may be enough to take the hit on paying out more...

[steals_your_goats]

He looks good I just wish he was more green than that Olive color.

[william-james88]

He looks good I just wish he was more green than that Olive color.

I too would have preferred that but the test shots from botcon showed us that he was gonna be more on the yellow/olive side, so I was prepared.

[Mkall]

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