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[Bronzewolf]

I'm kinda bummed with that 'Jack. I'll take my MP-20, thanks. (Yeah, I know that's kind of a mean comparison ) Though, that smokescreen tempts me...
(This is my first post here, even though I've been silently watching from afar for a long time now )
~~BW

[Hellscream9999]

They look nice, will probably only get hound if I like the swindle mold. I anticipate that I will, and hound does pull the mold off well; I'd go so far as to say that this is what a 'classics' re-imagining of hound should look like - i.e. one that isn't slavishly g1 accurate - I actually like the look of him better than any g1 styled version of him.

Better than this?

I mean it's nice and all, what with the bland face and what not, I was 1000% more interested with the ravage figure he came with

I dunno, I don't like most of the G1 autobots, they were bland, or recolors, or bland recolors of bland characters with bland figures. Just the same design (hood chest, trunk for feet, etc.) pounded out over and over again. Say what you will, but at least beast wars had interesting designs that really stood out once it hit it's stride.

[mooncake623]

I mean it's nice and all, what with the bland face and what not, I was 1000% more interested with the ravage figure he came with

I dunno, I don't like most of the G1 autobots, they were bland, or recolors, or bland recolors of bland characters with bland figures. Just the same design (hood chest, trunk for feet, etc.) pounded out over and over again. Say what you will, but at least beast wars had interesting designs that really stood out once it hit it's stride.

Lol
so buy beast war figures!! I hope they unveil some new ones... cause you know beast wars 20th anniversary is around the corner.. so you know Beast Wars Dinobot please!!!

[mooncake623]

I'm kinda bummed with that 'Jack. I'll take my MP-20, thanks. (Yeah, I know that's kind of a mean comparison ) Though, that smokescreen tempts me...
(This is my first post here, even though I've been silently watching from afar for a long time now )
~~BW

Welcome Bronzewolf! Glad you're finally joining us!

[Hellscream9999]

I mean it's nice and all, what with the bland face and what not, I was 1000% more interested with the ravage figure he came with

I dunno, I don't like most of the G1 autobots, they were bland, or recolors, or bland recolors of bland characters with bland figures. Just the same design (hood chest, trunk for feet, etc.) pounded out over and over again. Say what you will, but at least beast wars had interesting designs that really stood out once it hit it's stride.

Lol
so buy beast war figures!! I hope they unveil some new ones... cause you know beast wars 20th anniversary is around the corner.. so you know Beast Wars Dinobot please!!!

Well that's why I never bought most of the classics/universe stuff

Dinobot would be pretty hard to get super screen accurate, he was pretty massive in bot mode and the beast mode was really lithe. It could be possible if they re-engineered the bw figure.

[Sowndwave76]

I truly hope there are people out there that like these new Autobot figures more than the Classics, Universe, Generations, & RtS versions. Especially if they missed out before.

I'm not going to say these CW updates suck.
If you like them, cool.

But my personal opinion is that these are not as good as what's been offered before.
I'm not interested in talking about how short these fall from previous releases.
The headsculpts are spot-on... Imo really impressive.
But because they've been made with the ability to combine, other things were sacrificed.

Please believe this isn't me mindlessly defending my collection...
I just know it's a far stretch to say that this new Smokescreen is better than the Henkei "Classics" version.
Or even the Hound figures that have been compared already.

People can call the older versions bland...
I call them legitimately sound, updated G1 representations.

[Bronzewolf]

I'm kinda bummed with that 'Jack. I'll take my MP-20, thanks. (Yeah, I know that's kind of a mean comparison ) Though, that smokescreen tempts me...
(This is my first post here, even though I've been silently watching from afar for a long time now )
~~BW

Welcome Bronzewolf! Glad you're finally joining us!

Thanks, mooncake! Glad to finally be here.

Yeah, honestly? I agree about Hound. A non-g1 Hound spikes my interest. I'll skip Wheeljack and Trailbreaker. Unnecessary remolds/combiner limbs. And Primus knows I won't have enough of those by the time Bruticus and Victorion come out.

[prjkt]

I'm not sure if it's just the lighting, but I really don't like that Smokescreen.
Wheeljack is probably the best of the bunch with his retooling, just needs a little black paint on those fake chest windows. Hound is a close second, but I'm not sure he'll replace my Generations version.

[Cobotron]

I think it's awesome that 10 year olds who don't even know "Classics" exists, get to have really cool looking and fun versions of these classic characters.
I'm happy to have multiple versions of these classic characters. Especially if they combine.

[Wolfman Jake]

Combiner Wars Wheeljack and Hound look amazing. They're not superior to their previous Classics releases, but they look damn good for retools/repaints. It's nice that Trailbreaker gets his gun hand, but it should have been on his left hand, not his right. Smokescreen looks a little off to me. I think Prowl with his color layout pulls off that mold a lot better. Still, I agree with Cobotron, these are great entry level G1 offerings for young kids graduating from the likes of Rescue Bots and Robots in Disguise 2015. I'm thinking X-mas presents for my nephew with some of these.

[misfire19d]

I like em all. Not fired up about Sky Lynx though.

[Cobotron]

So thinking about these four ark bots, got me to thinking about who's left.
Now I'm just shootin' the moon here, but I would love to see...

Voyager Blaster as torso, with his street smart, break dancing, city bot team of - Bluestreak, Hoist, Sideswipe, and Jazz.

[Gauntlet101010]

I think the old Prowl mould could stand replacing (so that's Prowl, Bluestreak, and Smokescreen). On it's own it wasn't bad, but the paint on all the figures was terrible and just ruined it. I'm pretty happy with what I already have, though.

[Flashwave]

Well, especially since I don't have the Classics fig, I think I'll be getting Smokey. I'll pobably get Prowl then too, since mine's losing his paint. I want to like Hound, but I will probably forever have Hound running around with Cloud Crosshairs (Sorry, Roadbuster) IDW Drift, AOE Rollbvar (getting the pattern now>?) and I just don't feel the CW asthetic works with those figs. Swindle's a definite. I also want to like Trailbreaker and Gun hand (have we cinfirmed it's CWFist compatible liek Rook?) but I don't like the hood on the Offroad Mold and I;m already putting up with it for Ironhide, so... Wheeljack's vehicle mode is Awesome, and I'd love to phase out his Genration mold, only because I have EVCERY OTHER character produced from it, but I don't think I will end up doing so, so Smokey will be alone... and not combined anyway.

[SW's SilverHammer]

So thinking about these four ark bots, got me to thinking about who's left.
Now I'm just shootin' the moon here, but I would love to see...

Voyager Blaster as torso, with his street smart, break dancing, city bot team of - Bluestreak, Hoist, Sideswipe, and Jazz.

Rumor mill has Blaster being a headmaster.

[Sabrblade]

I mean it's nice and all, what with the bland face and what not, I was 1000% more interested with the ravage figure he came with

I dunno, I don't like most of the G1 autobots, they were bland, or recolors, or bland recolors of bland characters with bland figures. Just the same design (hood chest, trunk for feet, etc.) pounded out over and over again. Say what you will, but at least beast wars had interesting designs that really stood out once it hit it's stride.

While I agree to an extent, I will say that the Marvel Comics (especially the UK ones) were vastly superior to the Sunbow cartoon. Those comics made great characters out of these guys, especially (of all bots) Ratchet!

Dinobot would be pretty hard to get super screen accurate, he was pretty massive in bot mode and the beast mode was really lithe. It could be possible if they re-engineered the bw figure.

Henkei! Henkei! Dinobot is a thing of show-accurate beauty!

[Optimizzy]

I mean it's nice and all, what with the bland face and what not, I was 1000% more interested with the ravage figure he came with

I dunno, I don't like most of the G1 autobots, they were bland, or recolors, or bland recolors of bland characters with bland figures. Just the same design (hood chest, trunk for feet, etc.) pounded out over and over again. Say what you will, but at least beast wars had interesting designs that really stood out once it hit it's stride.

While I agree to an extent, I will say that the Marvel Comics (especially the UK ones) were vastly superior to the Sunbow cartoon. Those comics made great characters out of these guys, especially (of all bots) Ratchet!

Blasphemy!

Honestly, though, I found the comics to be a weird confusing mess. The cartoon has its faults but I think I'm not the only one to say that the Movie was the pinnacle of G1 storytelling

[Optimizzy]

oh and yeah, that Smokescreen is as good as bought. I dont have him yet

[Hellscream9999]

I mean it's nice and all, what with the bland face and what not, I was 1000% more interested with the ravage figure he came with

I dunno, I don't like most of the G1 autobots, they were bland, or recolors, or bland recolors of bland characters with bland figures. Just the same design (hood chest, trunk for feet, etc.) pounded out over and over again. Say what you will, but at least beast wars had interesting designs that really stood out once it hit it's stride.

While I agree to an extent, I will say that the Marvel Comics (especially the UK ones) were vastly superior to the Sunbow cartoon. Those comics made great characters out of these guys, especially (of all bots) Ratchet!

Dinobot would be pretty hard to get super screen accurate, he was pretty massive in bot mode and the beast mode was really lithe. It could be possible if they re-engineered the bw figure.

Henkei! Henkei! Dinobot is a thing of show-accurate beauty!

Alright, that's fair. I've never read them, just a synopsis of each comic awhile ago. But for being repaint city, the molds weren't terribly interesting.

While that does look nice, I still think the bw version would work better if it were re-engineered, that classics one has some scrawny limbs, the exact opposite of what characterized dinobots silhouette (he was massive)

[Sabrblade]

Edited my post with much cooler pics.

[Wolfman Jake]

Blasphemy!

Honestly, though, I found the comics to be a weird confusing mess.

#becauseSimonFurman

[Hellscream9999]

Edited my post with much cooler pics.

It looks kinda nice, but it still has scrawny thighs, the arms look nice, but that waist looks terrible. If it were a voyager it could probably improve on the classics mold and make it really nice.

[Hellscream9999]

Blasphemy!

Honestly, though, I found the comics to be a weird confusing mess.

#becauseSimonFurman

So, was it more confusing or less confusing than various scale errors in the G1 cartoon? (should be the new standard of measure)

[Wolfman Jake]

I covet the Henkei Henkei version so much. The after market prices are ridiculous, though. *sighs* The Universe 2008 version will have to keep doing for now.

[Thadicon]

Actually hasn't mototmaster been reformed since swindle used the enigma on him to better look like his toy?

Yeah he has, but it would be cool just to at least have him look less like a racing truck and more like a his G1 self. i think a trailer or a deliver truck canopy could fill out Menasor's back in combined mode.

Menasor has too much weight, heavy limb-bots, and poorly designed legs, and you want to put more weight onto him

He is heavy but what do you expect he's not going to be a feather when you chuck 4 deluxes and legends class on Motormaster. If you transform his legs to one of the many fan modes that others have done you can get a pretty sturdy Menasor. Either that or make some custom feet or something like that.