JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So the long and short of it is this:
"The total amount of figures sold has reached the required amount for shipping new stock too late to be eligible for Wave 2. Therefore, Europe will get the later Wave 3 instead."
If that's the case, it proves assortments available for immediate order by stores gets rotated every few months, even if nothing gets ordered. The boat for Wave 2 has sailed for Europe it seems.
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So the long and short of it is this:
"The total amount of figures sold has reached the required amount for shipping new stock too late to be eligible for Wave 2. Therefore, Europe will get the later Wave 3 instead."
If that's the case, it proves assortments available for immediate order by stores gets rotated every few months, even if nothing gets ordered. The boat for Wave 2 has sailed for Europe it seems.
I feel so bad for you guys! I wont complain as much in Canada anymore.
Shockwave7 wrote:Well I guess I shouldn't complain too much about Wave3 not being available en masse in the US quite yet. No wave2 in the EU at all? Because they didn't meet 'quantity requirements'?
Does that mean wave 1 didn't sell enough units in the EU and they're writing them off as not worth it? Or that they didn't manufacture enough units so they have to cut off some markets that don't seem to be doing as well?
I thought the CW line was selling pretty well - hard to fathom it NOT selling in other places like the EU. It's certainly hard to find in stores, although my local wal-mart seems to have a monopoly on all the Wave1 Voyagers. Every new shipment on the shelf is another clutch of Silverbolts and Optimuses.....
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Heckfire wrote:WHAT?! I'm not even IN the EU and I know that's unfair and wrong! What the Hell, Hasbro? The European fanbase kept G1 alive longer than the US, dammit, you don't pull crap like this on them!
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:Hold up - people are seriously railing against Hasbro for this? It sounds like retailers, salespeople or other such folks, whether associated with Hasbro or not, couldn't muster enough demand for the figures. If there's no demand, do people expect Hasbro to make an unwise business decision?
Also, I'm still in NYC, and still haven't seen anything wave 2. In fact, a couple wave 3 Legends figures have popped up. So... it's not like I'm in a different boat.
hinomars19 wrote:megatronus wrote:Hold up - people are seriously railing against Hasbro for this? It sounds like retailers, salespeople or other such folks, whether associated with Hasbro or not, couldn't muster enough demand for the figures. If there's no demand, do people expect Hasbro to make an unwise business decision?
Also, I'm still in NYC, and still haven't seen anything wave 2. In fact, a couple wave 3 Legends figures have popped up. So... it's not like I'm in a different boat.
If it was a problem of lack of demand they wouldn't be planning on sending us wave 3 now, would they?
Hot spot has already been spotted in a few Smyths stores, I think. And him and Cyclonus are on their online store. Plus this reply from Hasbro confirms wave 3 is on it's way. I don't know who to blame, but it's business dickery keeping these figures off of our (and apparently your) shelves, not our lack of interest in them.
As always.
Time to pay stupid online prices from ebay then. Since Motormaster and maybe others sold out at places like Kapow in what seemed like seconds from the time they were listed simply because I don't have a bank balance to buy them at the case load the minute the pre-order comes up. As always.
I enjoyed leisurely collecting wave 1 at my own pace and budget from stores...
Editor wrote:
Sorry but yes, this is retailers likely over ordering on wave 1 or lines just before it, looking at their inventory reports and deciding to skip a selection. It happens all the time, but in many cases it isn't noticed because wave allotments many times will have duplications.
The average buyer doesn't care what characters are in there, or that these are designed to be used together, that isn't their job.
And if as a territory not enough buyers request a wave then Hasbro won't release it.
This isn't a conspiracy, or malicious intent. Its supply &demand business practice.
Editor wrote:hinomars19 wrote:megatronus wrote:Hold up - people are seriously railing against Hasbro for this? It sounds like retailers, salespeople or other such folks, whether associated with Hasbro or not, couldn't muster enough demand for the figures. If there's no demand, do people expect Hasbro to make an unwise business decision?
Also, I'm still in NYC, and still haven't seen anything wave 2. In fact, a couple wave 3 Legends figures have popped up. So... it's not like I'm in a different boat.
If it was a problem of lack of demand they wouldn't be planning on sending us wave 3 now, would they?
Hot spot has already been spotted in a few Smyths stores, I think. And him and Cyclonus are on their online store. Plus this reply from Hasbro confirms wave 3 is on it's way. I don't know who to blame, but it's business dickery keeping these figures off of our (and apparently your) shelves, not our lack of interest in them.
As always.
Time to pay stupid online prices from ebay then. Since Motormaster and maybe others sold out at places like Kapow in what seemed like seconds from the time they were listed simply because I don't have a bank balance to buy them at the case load the minute the pre-order comes up. As always.
I enjoyed leisurely collecting wave 1 at my own pace and budget from stores...
Sorry but yes, this is retailers likely over ordering on wave 1 or lines just before it, looking at their inventory reports and deciding to skip a selection. It happens all the time, but in many cases it isn't noticed because wave allotments many times will have duplications.
The average buyer doesn't care what characters are in there, or that these are designed to be used together, that isn't their job.
And if as a territory not enough buyers request a wave then Hasbro won't release it.
This isn't a conspiracy, or malicious intent. Its supply &demand business practice.
hinomars19 wrote:I know there is no conspiracy and what not, but what most people call 'business practice' I call 'business dickery'! It surprises me how little care Hasbro has for it's product-I know it's not the retailer's job to know or care what they carry (though, you'd think it should be...) but why bother making product if you don't see it given care and attention? Mind you, I'm no expert but I read enough here-it worries me how little control any company has on distribution; being at the hand of retailers just seems...bah why bother. It's business. who gives 2 hoots right? It's what the rules say so blah blah blah...
Not like it matters. Hasbro will still have phantom money in it's pockets to crank out more products that half of us won't be allowed to buy and the cycle just keeps going whilst we let the wind blow by us.
What a funny ol' world.
Cobotron said it best.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
william-james88 wrote:Hey wait a sec. Does this mean that the wave 2 deluxe cards are now Canada exclusive? And is Canada the only one to get the international versions now? Who else could have had them, Russia? South Africa? Because I know HongKong gets the comics
KillerOh wrote:Oh, right... The fun...
Return to Transformers Toys Discussion
Registered users: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Majestic-12 [Bot], MSN [Bot], Rodimus Prime